Search for Origins of Mahayana Buddhism

Re: # 60 Probably ????????? Be certain dear! It were Muslims who secured the old knowledge of ancient folks! scholars are all respectable irrespective of their faith and creed!

there is saying of Holy Prophet peace eb upon him the ink of scholar is sacred tahn blood of hundreds of martyrs! (Hadith) scholars are always great and I am with you on the loss of all teh human heritage lost under wars intentionally or otherwise!
Al_ Beruni save dthe knowledge of Indai, If he was not there , we would have lost glorious record of those times and a real loss to humanity indeed it would have been!

who gave the wolrd Zero, from India , Muslims! Who translated great works of Indian wisdom Muslims in Baghdad, Who preserved and translated indain texts Akbar , who preserved the Ashoka Column in Delhi one of Tughlaq Kings!
And zealots are never momeenens , they are prisoners of theri own delusions, but on the false undestadning of religion!

Re: # 62 Violence unprovoked is condemnable!In Quran it is explicitly said killing o one person is killing of humanity!

Re: # 59

"All things in heaven and earth are His. "

He must have a title ship deed signed in his favour for the ownership......err by the way can he sell the heavens and earth as well to his friend satan??

Mahfari,

Your post reveals a bias impossible to bridge with facts. Posidonius from Greece had already developed a way to measure earth's circumference. Alberuni did nothing original. He took the indian numerals and later the same were spread as arabic numerals. This is what a simple search in wikipedia will give you about nalanda ,

"In 1193, the Nalanda University suffered a final blow after the complex was sacked by Muslim armies[18] under Bakhtiyar Khilji; this event is seen as a milestone in the decline of Buddhism in India."

You are free to assume that no muslim was involved in it. As far as Bin Qasim is concerned, try and remember that for administration of iraq even the US had to turn back to the old baathists. The truce they have made with them has ensured peace. Bin Qasim's attempt to run Sindh by the help of locals cannot be taken as an act of mercy. He needed them.

I do not wish to offend you again, but you are quoting me abrahamic texts showing tolerance and mercy. Unfortunately, the acts in the name of faith that have beeen commited are just the reverse. I have not forgotten the calls for decapitation of salman rushdie for mentioning some historical facts about temple destruction in arabia during the times of the prophet of Quran. Is it a historical fact that a temple was destroyed by your prophet after pledging just the reverse? And if so then how does it show tolerance towards others. Why should his followers not walk in the same footsteps?
What kind of objectivity can you bring in this discussion of temple destruction anywhere but a sense of bigotry.

I do not believe that issues of religion can ever be discussed objectively. Destruction of temples and universities done by anyone in whatever name cannot be judged by any historian objectively. The perpetrators will always claim innocence under some pretext. But the bottom line is intolerance towards any other view but their own.

Adios

Mahfari,
In your excitement please don't post the same thing over and over.

Re: # 63

"there is saying of Holy Prophet peace eb upon him the ink of scholar is sacred tahn blood of hundreds of martyrs! (Hadith) "

Err, Sir, Please , could you provide me the right source for this Hadiths??

Re: # 65

"Who preserved and translated indain texts Akbar"

What Pakistani propaganda!!

Akbar "preserved" Indian texts?? Which texts are you talking about?? Ramayana, Veda, Upanishads, Jinna Granths, Tripitakas, Sahitya, Kalidas, Aryabhatt. Charaka ??? Which text do you give Akbar the credit for "preservation"????

Re: # 68

Dear Maharana

You are quoting wikipedia and you will also be knowing about its basic premise that it is always open to re-interpretation and new ideas. i am in a country where i can not access Wikipedia otherwise i would ahev read this source, but I believe in this as you have said .
If you have not read Al-Beruni's Al Hind and other books on sciences then there is no need to discuss it further.

as to refer to the eevnt in the life of holy Prophet peace be upon him can you quote the exact place and exact temple which was destroyed despite promising otherwise?

As to abrahamic religions I presented an evolutionary perspective , you have rigth to differ as I have right to my own opinion. But hte question of facts, and realities, If certain people did a bad thing in certain circumstances; then how it becomes a role that all people belonging to that idea or creed were responsible for the same act?

History is not religion !



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I am only speaking for the legacy of चन्द्रकीर्ति that was lost in Nalanda...........Al Beruni means nothing to me........

Re: # 71 he got translated the Ramayna in Persian along with other texts of Hindu classic literature. read Muntakhawab-al-tarikh written by badayuni , that there was a whole lot of people to translate literature of India in Persian. dara Shikuh translated bhagwat Gita and wrote a book Majm-al behrain.
Come out of propaganda ideology, confirm the texts.

If you can get read the brilliant thesis by Dr. Tara Chnad Influence of Islam on Indian Culture , he was not a propagandsit certainly!

Re: # 67 Read Bhagwat Gita and think over it , you will know its meanings!

Actually Darashikoh translated the first ever translation into any language of the Upanishads.
In his case, from Sanskrit to Persian.

"he got translated the Ramayna in Persian along with other texts of Hindu classic literature."

That is a joke.........translations to persian or english only helps bridge the gap between two different religons........it does not "preserve" a living tradition......only practicing hindus "preserve" a living tradition of vedas and sanathan dharma........ Akbar probably translated them at the request of mullahs who wanted to analyse the original texts of the idolator for fatwas to control them.................

Re: # 76 He translated many portions of bhagwat gita , but many other Classic Hindu texts were also translated well before him in akbar's era in Persian.

Re: # 75

"Re: # 67 Read Bhagwat Gita and think over it , you will know its meanings!"

I would say the same to you about Quran!!

#68
You forgot or intentially insert (need to be Verified)

In your bias you did not completely quote from the Wikipedia

Ling and Scott, however, point out that centres of learning were already declining, before the presence of Muslims.[18] Fortified Sena monasteries along the main route of the invasion were destroyed, and being off the main route both Nalanda and Bodh Gaya survived. Many institutions off the main route such as the Jagaddala Monastery in northern Bengal were untouched and flourishing(also ned to be verified)

I do not know if you have visited (for orientation of different areas mentined )to deduce .I have