Hussain Gadehi November 26, 2007
#123 Posted by rf786 on November 29, 2007 11:56:24 pm
Re: # 111
"why the hell he had to choose this particular date. This asshole spares no effort at poking at our wounds.
Musharraf says will lift emergency rule on Dec 16"
Dec 16? Shoo Muthlab?
"why the hell he had to choose this particular date. This asshole spares no effort at poking at our wounds.
Musharraf says will lift emergency rule on Dec 16"
Dec 16? Shoo Muthlab?
#122 Posted by krashid1961 on November 29, 2007 9:21:53 pm
Viqar M:
(have based my assertions on his stands and pronouncements in the past. In the past, he always referred to the armed forces, along with the feudals, as primary culprits for the ills of Pakistan.)
It is not that way. Feudals are not going to leave their grip on power, while MQM stands for the rule of Middle class):
{What gets me, though, is a lot of empty rhetoric. Given his allergy to army and feudal elites in the past, isn't it ironic that his party should now be in bed with both? }
I think with the amount of bargaining power of 13-17 seats they are very good bargainers. Being in bed, I did not get the point. If you are referring to coalition.
{Which army operation are you referring to over here? There have been so many. Can you be more specific?}
I am referring to Army operation which started in 1991 or 1992.
{Actually I expect that people take on what they can deliver. What is the point in making grand statements and in championing causes when they don't have the strength, or even sincere intent, to follow them through?}
I agree with that as long as you can. But still taking a stand is also important on various issues, because that not only reflects line of party but also gives direction to workers and people.
{MQM, in the past, allied with both PPP and PML, pulling out of both alliances after disillusionment. They could certainly have, and should have, pulled out last year when the operation in Baluchistan was mounted}
I don't get your logic. Why?
(have based my assertions on his stands and pronouncements in the past. In the past, he always referred to the armed forces, along with the feudals, as primary culprits for the ills of Pakistan.)
It is not that way. Feudals are not going to leave their grip on power, while MQM stands for the rule of Middle class):
{What gets me, though, is a lot of empty rhetoric. Given his allergy to army and feudal elites in the past, isn't it ironic that his party should now be in bed with both? }
I think with the amount of bargaining power of 13-17 seats they are very good bargainers. Being in bed, I did not get the point. If you are referring to coalition.
{Which army operation are you referring to over here? There have been so many. Can you be more specific?}
I am referring to Army operation which started in 1991 or 1992.
{Actually I expect that people take on what they can deliver. What is the point in making grand statements and in championing causes when they don't have the strength, or even sincere intent, to follow them through?}
I agree with that as long as you can. But still taking a stand is also important on various issues, because that not only reflects line of party but also gives direction to workers and people.
{MQM, in the past, allied with both PPP and PML, pulling out of both alliances after disillusionment. They could certainly have, and should have, pulled out last year when the operation in Baluchistan was mounted}
I don't get your logic. Why?
#121 Posted by arjun8 on November 29, 2007 5:43:28 pm
#107 Posted by Urstruly on November 29, 2007 9:54:32 am
They can shove their 10 billion where sun doesn't rise
Shouldn't that be our 10 billion $...being that it's your tax money...
They can shove their 10 billion where sun doesn't rise
Shouldn't that be our 10 billion $...being that it's your tax money...
#120 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on November 29, 2007 12:54:57 pm
{" i am happy to discuss any issue on chowk without engaging in personal insults"}
Sure! Hypo Chacha discusses any issue on chowk by engaging in collective racial, ethnic, linguistic, and provincial insults.
Sure! Hypo Chacha discusses any issue on chowk by engaging in collective racial, ethnic, linguistic, and provincial insults.
#119 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on November 29, 2007 12:53:26 pm
{" if such insults bothered me, i would never have stayed on chowk all these years."}
Beghairty aur hypocrisy men ziada faasla nahin he.
Beghairty aur hypocrisy men ziada faasla nahin he.
#117 Posted by bubba on November 29, 2007 12:28:01 pm
Re: # 116
[if such insults bothered me, i would never have stayed on chowk all these years.] Thank you for exuding such a positive behavior. And this is from the bottom of my heart.
[if such insults bothered me, i would never have stayed on chowk all these years.] Thank you for exuding such a positive behavior. And this is from the bottom of my heart.
#116 Posted by tahmed32 on November 29, 2007 12:05:56 pm
giani: i am happy to discuss any issue on chowk without engaging in personal insults.
there are no doubt individuals who engage in unprovoked personal insults - and it is chowk staff's job to implement their guidelines in this case. if such insults bothered me, i would never have stayed on chowk all these years.
there are no doubt individuals who engage in unprovoked personal insults - and it is chowk staff's job to implement their guidelines in this case. if such insults bothered me, i would never have stayed on chowk all these years.
#115 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on November 29, 2007 11:29:53 am
#113 Posted by giani_240 on November 29, 2007 11:18:44 am
{"Salim mian,
I would give tahmed a break"}
Giani Sahib,
Agreed! you name the limb.
{"Salim mian,
I would give tahmed a break"}
Giani Sahib,
Agreed! you name the limb.
#114 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on November 29, 2007 11:28:50 am
Urstruly Sahib,
For $10B any Injun would sell his mother, all of his sisters, and most of his fathers, including the phamily cow to anyone, including a Pathan.
For $10B any Injun would sell his mother, all of his sisters, and most of his fathers, including the phamily cow to anyone, including a Pathan.
#113 Posted by giani_240 on November 29, 2007 11:18:44 am
Salim mian,
I would give tahmed a break. He was probably not born when Bangladesh happened. At least he has been consistent.
giani
I would give tahmed a break. He was probably not born when Bangladesh happened. At least he has been consistent.
giani
#112 Posted by bubba on November 29, 2007 10:38:57 am
Re: #108 Posted by Urstruly on November 29, 2007 10:14:46 am
[May ask, technically, who the hell is in charge of the country right now? Kiyani? because the martial law is still in effect or Mucharraf? If it is Mucharraf then how can army work with duality of command?] Because President is Chief of Staff. Huh! And up until now, I thought you are the brightest of them all on this chowk.
#107 Posted by Urstruly on November 29, 2007 9:54:32 am
Re: # 106
[They can shove their 10 billion where sun doesn't rise] And that is what they are trying to figure out places where the sun does not shine? Frankly, they have already known for a long time that the best place where the sun does not shine is where there is a huge demand (as in NWFP) with all those "buchhaa baaz" hanging around with their pseudo machoism. These "buchhaa baaz" have finally met their match with Negroponte. Don't you think?
[May ask, technically, who the hell is in charge of the country right now? Kiyani? because the martial law is still in effect or Mucharraf? If it is Mucharraf then how can army work with duality of command?] Because President is Chief of Staff. Huh! And up until now, I thought you are the brightest of them all on this chowk.
#107 Posted by Urstruly on November 29, 2007 9:54:32 am
Re: # 106
[They can shove their 10 billion where sun doesn't rise] And that is what they are trying to figure out places where the sun does not shine? Frankly, they have already known for a long time that the best place where the sun does not shine is where there is a huge demand (as in NWFP) with all those "buchhaa baaz" hanging around with their pseudo machoism. These "buchhaa baaz" have finally met their match with Negroponte. Don't you think?
#111 Posted by Urstruly on November 29, 2007 10:26:33 am
Oh this just takes the cake; why the hell he had to choose this particular date. This asshole spares no effort at poking at our wounds.
Musharraf says will lift emergency rule on Dec 16
3 hours ago
ISLAMABAD (AFP) — President Pervez Musharraf promised Thursday to lift Pakistan's state of emergency on December 16, in a long-awaited gesture of reconciliation hours after being sworn in as a civilian leader.
Musharraf says will lift emergency rule on Dec 16
3 hours ago
ISLAMABAD (AFP) — President Pervez Musharraf promised Thursday to lift Pakistan's state of emergency on December 16, in a long-awaited gesture of reconciliation hours after being sworn in as a civilian leader.
#110 Posted by mohar11 on November 29, 2007 10:24:46 am
This Kiyani dude appears quite dark and not that tall either... Aren't pakis supposed to be all tall fair aryans?... what's going on?
#109 Posted by mohar11 on November 29, 2007 10:23:33 am
"The Pakistan military is a fine institution" - says mullha32... And Anna Nicole Smith was actually Virgin Mary... :)
Paki Military is a criminal enterprise... has killed more of its own citizens than enemy soldiers...
Paki Military is a criminal enterprise... has killed more of its own citizens than enemy soldiers...
#108 Posted by Urstruly on November 29, 2007 10:14:46 am
May ask, technically, who the hell is in charge of the country right now? Kiyani? because the martial law is still in effect or Mucharraf? If it is Mucharraf then how can army work with duality of command?
I was avoiding to see TV for the past day or two to keep my eyes getting "pleet" by seeing so many vulture in uniform in one sigle day but today unforunately I saw the baton-handing ceremony on youtube since someone told me that Mucharraf was crying during the ceremony. I saw how these crooks were handing over the key of their abbay ki jagir to each other. Who the hell these goons think they are and what this country is? Halwai ki dokaan; Nana ji ki fateha??
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