Ahmed Quraishi November 29, 2007
#113 Posted by Karachite on December 3, 2007 3:47:43 am
111 Posted by harish_hyd
نہين تم نے يہ بکواس نہين کي-
نہين تم نے يہ بکواس نہين کي-
نہين تم نے يہ بکواس نہين کي-
نہين تم نے يہ بکواس نہين کي-
#114 Posted by majumdar on December 3, 2007 3:52:56 am
Tahmed sahib/Harishbhai,
One of the rights in a democratic society should be the right to bicker. As Churchill said jaw-jaw is better than war-war!!!
Regards
One of the rights in a democratic society should be the right to bicker. As Churchill said jaw-jaw is better than war-war!!!
Regards
#115 Posted by Karachite on December 3, 2007 4:00:53 am
114 Posted by majumdar
As long as this is done with the right intent and not to advance your devious ends and to spew poison.
As long as this is done with the right intent and not to advance your devious ends and to spew poison.
#116 Posted by Karachite on December 3, 2007 4:04:24 am
#111 Posted by harish_hyd
بولو اور جواب دو- سکول کو اردو مين مدرسہ کہتے ہين-
#117 Posted by majumdar on December 3, 2007 4:06:09 am
Karachi sahib,
Who is to judge whether it is being done out of honesty or to advance devious ends. Nonetheless blanket abuse of any person or group based on nationality/race/religion/caste/language/gender/sexual orientation is highly reprehensible.
Regards
Who is to judge whether it is being done out of honesty or to advance devious ends. Nonetheless blanket abuse of any person or group based on nationality/race/religion/caste/language/gender/sexual orientation is highly reprehensible.
Regards
#118 Posted by Karachite on December 3, 2007 4:14:36 am
117 Posted by majumdar
that's alright. But again if you come forward with your true identity and not to pose yourself as a Pakistani when in fact you are indian and trying to malign my city and my country. If you would like to be a Pakistani, please apply for Pakistani citizenship, we may consider you.
that's alright. But again if you come forward with your true identity and not to pose yourself as a Pakistani when in fact you are indian and trying to malign my city and my country. If you would like to be a Pakistani, please apply for Pakistani citizenship, we may consider you.
#119 Posted by Karachite on December 3, 2007 4:15:54 am
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#120 Posted by majumdar on December 3, 2007 4:17:18 am
Karachi sahib,
I am an Injun and my name is indeed Majumdar as at least three chowkies know!!! I see no reason to apply for a Paki citizenship.
Regards
I am an Injun and my name is indeed Majumdar as at least three chowkies know!!! I see no reason to apply for a Paki citizenship.
Regards
#121 Posted by Karachite on December 3, 2007 4:22:40 am
120 Posted by majumdar
I don't know what an Injun mean? Please clarify?
Your other colleagues may have reasons to apply for "Paki" citizenship. I personally know a few Muslim families who got their kids married here in Pakistan for this purpose. Honest and no intent to malign anybody please.
I don't know what an Injun mean? Please clarify?
Your other colleagues may have reasons to apply for "Paki" citizenship. I personally know a few Muslim families who got their kids married here in Pakistan for this purpose. Honest and no intent to malign anybody please.
#122 Posted by Karachite on December 3, 2007 4:24:19 am
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#123 Posted by majumdar on December 3, 2007 4:28:25 am
Karachi sahib,
OK, Indian.
(I personally know a few Muslim families who got their kids married here in Pakistan for this purpose. )
I hope they get what they want!!!
Regards
OK, Indian.
(I personally know a few Muslim families who got their kids married here in Pakistan for this purpose. )
I hope they get what they want!!!
Regards
#124 Posted by Karachite on December 3, 2007 4:53:20 am
123 Posted by majumdar
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2005/20050826/world.htm#6
Indian woman moves Pak court on visa issue
Islamabad, Aug 25
An Indian woman seeking Pakistani citizenship after getting married to her cousin here has moved the Peshawar High Court to restrain the government from taking any adverse action against her after her visa expired.
Afsina Bibi, who hails from Ahmedabad, got married to Arshid Mahmood, a Pakistani citizen in 1997. However, she came to Pakistan only in May. Her visit visa expired on August 19.
The woman applied for Pakistani citizenship on Tuesday and has now requested the court to restrain the government from taking any adverse action against her.
The Peshawar High Court on Tuesday put on notice the federal government and other respondents on the writ petition.
Bibi’s advocate told the court that the woman was legally entitled to get Pakistani citizenship under the Citizenship Act, local daily “Dawn” reported. — PTI
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2005/20050826/world.htm#6
Indian woman moves Pak court on visa issue
Islamabad, Aug 25
An Indian woman seeking Pakistani citizenship after getting married to her cousin here has moved the Peshawar High Court to restrain the government from taking any adverse action against her after her visa expired.
Afsina Bibi, who hails from Ahmedabad, got married to Arshid Mahmood, a Pakistani citizen in 1997. However, she came to Pakistan only in May. Her visit visa expired on August 19.
The woman applied for Pakistani citizenship on Tuesday and has now requested the court to restrain the government from taking any adverse action against her.
The Peshawar High Court on Tuesday put on notice the federal government and other respondents on the writ petition.
Bibi’s advocate told the court that the woman was legally entitled to get Pakistani citizenship under the Citizenship Act, local daily “Dawn” reported. — PTI
#125 Posted by majumdar on December 3, 2007 4:58:17 am
Karachi sahib,
Could we have a deal? You take Arundhati Roy, Medha Patkar, Kuldeep Nayyar and assorted commies and mullahs from India. In return you give us Aunty Shamim, Begum Nawazish Ali, Rahat Fatah Ali Khan, Atif Aslam and some of those Geo TV reporters that my chowkie pals keep drooling over.
Fair exchange sahib?
Regards
Could we have a deal? You take Arundhati Roy, Medha Patkar, Kuldeep Nayyar and assorted commies and mullahs from India. In return you give us Aunty Shamim, Begum Nawazish Ali, Rahat Fatah Ali Khan, Atif Aslam and some of those Geo TV reporters that my chowkie pals keep drooling over.
Fair exchange sahib?
Regards
#126 Posted by Karachite on December 3, 2007 5:37:02 am
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#127 Posted by krashid1961 on December 3, 2007 10:19:58 pm
Sonof Kashmir:
It is a known fact that to start a campaign against Mohajir community (As although I did not belonged to MQM I also suffered), a map of Jinnahpur was published by agencies in Jang newspaper and state terrorism was started against Mohajir Community .
Let me ask you why not the Seraiki were slaughtered when they demanded a seperate status and province. How come Punjab has Seraiki, potohari, Kashmiri etc and still be one province. Howcome Baluchistan has Pathan, baluch, Brohi etc and still be one province, but if Mohajir are accepted as seperate community it will result in disintegeration of Pakistan.
The points you are raising is valid. But they are as superficial as some Indian counterpart telling about Abul Kalam as president of India and premji businessman as example of prosperity and advancement of Indian Muslims.
More important than this are issues. The finance commission award is distributed on the basis of population and not on the basis of who has generated the wealth. Do you think it is fair. It is only fair if we are one nation. If not why would anybody share his wealth with his neighbour.
Apart from debt servicing, biggest expense is on Army. Why should we put our hard earned income in Armed forces preponderance of which goes to Punjab, if we are not one nation.
As far as Industrial sector dominated by Mohajir community, keep your facts straight. Even look at the composition of Industries and election of their office bearer in Karachi Chamber of commerce (and I am not talking about Lahore, Faisalabad, Gujrat and Gujranwala).
As far as Urdu being imposed on Bengalis by Urdu speaking. You have absolutely no sense of history and creation of Pakistan. It was Jinnah (who was Gujrati and English speaking and not Urdu ) who was the undistuputed leader of all parts of Pakistan. And Bengal was the province which gave unanimous support to him in contradistinction to the parts comprising West Pakistan. After religion which was the reason for creation of Pakistan. In his wisdom Pakistan needed to be one nation. So the next step was lingua franca which is Urdu. If you know the history of Urdu you will be knowing that it did not belong to Dehli but came into being by the interaction of different invaders from Afghanistan and local people and includes substantial amount Turkish, persian and Arabic words due to that. It was lingua franca. It happened that since the capital of that Turkish, Afghan, Mongol dynasty (and others before) was Dehli and so the support of Urdu in Dehli.
If you are really son of Kashmir you should be ashamed.
Kashmir has never decided to join Pakistan. Still Kashmiris are as much part and parcel of Pakistan and accepted as such. Even that famous drinker and your Urdu speaking pork eater told that Kashmir is the Main Artery of Pakistan.
The Biharis in Bangladesh say that they have sacrificed for Pakistan and not Bangladesh. (And did it twice one in 1947 and one in 1971). If they have emotional attachment to Pakistan, it is no surprise. You can disown them but don't blame them for their sacrifices. They have been fooled all along it seems. Disown them. But don't blame them for the foolishness of their attachment to Pakistan.
If you want to roll back back history, you can do it. Still you don't want to create an alternate history.
It is a known fact that to start a campaign against Mohajir community (As although I did not belonged to MQM I also suffered), a map of Jinnahpur was published by agencies in Jang newspaper and state terrorism was started against Mohajir Community .
Let me ask you why not the Seraiki were slaughtered when they demanded a seperate status and province. How come Punjab has Seraiki, potohari, Kashmiri etc and still be one province. Howcome Baluchistan has Pathan, baluch, Brohi etc and still be one province, but if Mohajir are accepted as seperate community it will result in disintegeration of Pakistan.
The points you are raising is valid. But they are as superficial as some Indian counterpart telling about Abul Kalam as president of India and premji businessman as example of prosperity and advancement of Indian Muslims.
More important than this are issues. The finance commission award is distributed on the basis of population and not on the basis of who has generated the wealth. Do you think it is fair. It is only fair if we are one nation. If not why would anybody share his wealth with his neighbour.
Apart from debt servicing, biggest expense is on Army. Why should we put our hard earned income in Armed forces preponderance of which goes to Punjab, if we are not one nation.
As far as Industrial sector dominated by Mohajir community, keep your facts straight. Even look at the composition of Industries and election of their office bearer in Karachi Chamber of commerce (and I am not talking about Lahore, Faisalabad, Gujrat and Gujranwala).
As far as Urdu being imposed on Bengalis by Urdu speaking. You have absolutely no sense of history and creation of Pakistan. It was Jinnah (who was Gujrati and English speaking and not Urdu ) who was the undistuputed leader of all parts of Pakistan. And Bengal was the province which gave unanimous support to him in contradistinction to the parts comprising West Pakistan. After religion which was the reason for creation of Pakistan. In his wisdom Pakistan needed to be one nation. So the next step was lingua franca which is Urdu. If you know the history of Urdu you will be knowing that it did not belong to Dehli but came into being by the interaction of different invaders from Afghanistan and local people and includes substantial amount Turkish, persian and Arabic words due to that. It was lingua franca. It happened that since the capital of that Turkish, Afghan, Mongol dynasty (and others before) was Dehli and so the support of Urdu in Dehli.
If you are really son of Kashmir you should be ashamed.
Kashmir has never decided to join Pakistan. Still Kashmiris are as much part and parcel of Pakistan and accepted as such. Even that famous drinker and your Urdu speaking pork eater told that Kashmir is the Main Artery of Pakistan.
The Biharis in Bangladesh say that they have sacrificed for Pakistan and not Bangladesh. (And did it twice one in 1947 and one in 1971). If they have emotional attachment to Pakistan, it is no surprise. You can disown them but don't blame them for their sacrifices. They have been fooled all along it seems. Disown them. But don't blame them for the foolishness of their attachment to Pakistan.
If you want to roll back back history, you can do it. Still you don't want to create an alternate history.
#128 Posted by Jhangirm on December 4, 2007 4:28:45 pm
Geo is an extremely biased and one-dimensional channel. It represents the old ways of agitation and mischief. Geo loop video of 10 man protests from a close angle all day, and pump people to go on the streets and damage Pakistan. We all know what Allah says in surah 5 al-ma’idah: ‘Those who…do mischief in the land shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off on the opposite sides, or be exiled from the land’. Geo should thank Musharraf he only exiled geo from the land. But of course gew is enemy of Islam and of Pakistan. They don’t even recognise the present gov. gave them their rights to broadcast, because this would mean they would have to accept that the present gov. has done a lot of good things for Pakistan. Pakistan ko Jeeneh doh Geo!
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