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The Plan To Topple Pakistan Military

Ahmed Quraishi November 29, 2007

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#33 Posted by Dash_Dot on November 30, 2007 4:12:13 am
Two words:

(a) Paranoia
(b) Conspiracy theory fantacism
(c) bad interpolation

okay 6 words.

Currently, it is confusing Pakistan and pakistanis as to what is happening to them. Floundering around loking for a rationale to join the dots and create a smoke screen for the failings, on a grand scale, of the elite and the establishment.

But first things first.

(a) Hang the picture of jinnah everywhere but forget him. he is of no use right now 60 years after pakistan has been founded.
(b) bring in rule of law - equality of law, equality of RIGHTS and DUTIES
(c) usher in One-man One-Vote (OMOV). FORGET DEMOCRACY FOR NOW, this aint gonna happen. But OMOV is a starter.
(d) Ensure no civiian rushes to the Army and begs it to take over the running of the country as has happened in the past. This is an invitation for disaster.

After that get down to the nitty-gritty and gets hands and mnds dirty in trying to run the country.

Authors fantasm beggars belief though.
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#34 Posted by arjun8 on November 30, 2007 4:20:38 am
#31 Posted by zeemax on November 30, 2007 3:45:26 am

Pureland is also America's testing ground for hellfires..

US to target Al Qaeda hideouts inside Pakistan, says Bush

By Anwar Iqbal


WASHINGTON, Nov 29: US President George W. Bush has said that he will still send American troops into Pakistan if he gets actionable intelligence that Osama bin Laden and other Al Qaeda leaders are hiding somewhere in the country.

Last year, Mr Bush caused uproar in Pakistan when he declared that he would authorise direct US military action if he had evidence that senior Al Qaeda leaders were hiding somewhere in the country.

Later, US officials assured Pakistan that while they retained the option to target Al Qaeda leaders anywhere in the world, they would take no action that could destabilise a friendly government.

In an interview to CNN on Wednesday evening, Mr Bush was reminded of his earlier declaration and asked if this was still his position. “Yes,” he said.

“Has not changed?” the interviewer asked. “No, has not changed,” said Mr Bush.

Mr Bush, however, acknowledged Pakistan as a key ally in the war against terror and praised its cooperation in bringing Al Qaeda leaders to justice.

In Pakistan, the US position on sending troops to target alleged Al Qaeda hideouts inside the Pakistani territory is seen as contradictory to Washington’s claim that Islamabad is a key ally in the war against terror. But in the US, this issue is viewed differently.
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#35 Posted by iron_mask on November 30, 2007 4:26:17 am
boy, people seem to want to spend time on this article....(guilty here as well)....but 34 interacts...I am surprised.

You guys have plenty of time on your hands.....
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#36 Posted by desi on November 30, 2007 4:46:42 am
Re: # 26 #27 by rf786 vanguard

Seeing how some people seem scared by this article, lends credence to the theory of the author. However, I only disagree him in justifying the stance taken by Musharraf against this JOINT effort of US and india to destabilize Pakistan. Even if Musharraf has correctly decoded this plan, he has been unable to raise an effective counter initiative. He has only helped the agenda of destabilization of Pakistan progress faster. Did not he really helped it when he launched operation in Wazirstan and now in Swat to turn Taliban against us so as to make them vulnerable to be used against us. Please note, beofore these operations, their full attention was only to root foreign elements out of Afghanistan. If FOREIGN elements are to expelled from the borders of Pakistan and Afghanistan, then first and foremost, US and NATO forces should leave the terriotry. Their very presence lets credence to the presence of other "foreign" elements over there. Mr. Musharraf should take a tougher stance rather than the cringling attitude he has adopted.
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#37 Posted by desi on November 30, 2007 4:52:30 am
Re: # 35 iron_mask

I am a casual visitor here, but I think Ahmed Qureshi has done a nice job with this analysis. You only tried to ridicule him, but did not put forward any of your own arguments against his. If you have any, please do share.
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#38 Posted by muqaddam on November 30, 2007 4:56:16 am
What a crappy article! If it had come to me in the snailmail box, I would have used it as toilet paper
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#39 Posted by desi on November 30, 2007 5:02:49 am
Re: # 38 muqaddam

What do you mean by referring to "toilet paper". Your own thought seem to be rotten! I would request editors to ban people who simply ridicule a poster without talking sense and logic.
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#40 Posted by pmishra2 on November 30, 2007 5:42:47 am
I am really angry to the low role given to indians in this article. Also there is no mention given to hindus!! NONE ! What is this, how come there is no discussion of "chanakya" or "bania mentality" or "hindu cunning" or "brhaminical fascism".

As an indian and hindu, I feel pretty insulted. All the credit for the bravery of the pakistani lawyers (now there is some real steel and stamina) and demos by media, students and others is going to the USA!

Not fair and not true. We are are much more trickier than Jon Stewart and far more subtle than the barbarian american ruling class. Please give credit where it is due!
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#41 Posted by pmishra2 on November 30, 2007 5:49:35 am
Also, I forgot, there is no mention of joos !! At least it should have mentioned zionism, which is terrible plot to enslave the entire world. They are the real master race - forget about these altu-phaltu hindus who are busy worshipping their 2,340,0003 gods and so have little time to do anything else.

What is this, yaar ! America is run by Joos - just look at Bill Gates and George W. Bush. All Joos in secret! - yup, thats is the real hidden secret of zionism.

Maybe your next article should deal with this topic?
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#42 Posted by desi on November 30, 2007 5:55:14 am
Re: # 40 pmishra2

Pretty neat. Hit pakis where they really get hit - get emotional like foolish Musharraf. You love us, don't you!

I would rather ask about the high role being displayed by indians in Kabul and Afghanistan and instigating unrest in Baluchistan?

And thanks for the credit for civil society in Pakistan though!
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#43 Posted by iron_mask on November 30, 2007 5:56:23 am
Re: # 37 please see chowk UP and also the following http://chowk.com/interacts/13060/1/0/32#349976 (i.e ineract #5)

Hopefully, you have now become aware of the concept of shooting yourself in the foot, if you were not before! ;-)
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#44 Posted by iron_mask on November 30, 2007 5:58:35 am
Re: # 4o PM2 you are being way to subtle
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#45 Posted by desi on November 30, 2007 6:01:45 am
Re: # 41 pmishra2

Please don't try to befool people with your emotional rhetoric. Put forward facts. If you have any argument against the theory presented by the author, please do enlighten us.
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#46 Posted by zeemax on November 30, 2007 6:04:50 am
Considering the busy congregation of hindoos here, it is not difficult to see what the following article is about:

The hunt for the odourless (hindoos?)

Nov 22nd 2007 | CARROLL COUNTY
From The Economist

Regulating America's (?) farms

IN TWO long buildings in Carroll county, Indiana, some 8,000 (?) are doing what they do best: eating, defecating and squealing.


(http://www.economist.com/research/articlesBySubject/displ aystory.cfm?subjectid=348924&story_id=10189184)
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#47 Posted by iron_mask on November 30, 2007 6:08:17 am
Re: # 46 when did you become an "apostate"?

You deserve to be stoned to death....and I will be first in the queue

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#48 Posted by Chetan on November 30, 2007 6:27:56 am
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