Ahmed Quraishi November 29, 2007
#97 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on December 2, 2007 10:04:44 am
Aquaris #92, #93, #94,
Thank you for correcting the factual error. I had copies & pasted the "300 Biharis" number from Son Of Kashmir's boast that Najaaez Besharif had settle 300 Biharis in Punjab. Maybe he was using the notorious 100 to 1 ratio. :)
Thank you for correcting the factual error. I had copies & pasted the "300 Biharis" number from Son Of Kashmir's boast that Najaaez Besharif had settle 300 Biharis in Punjab. Maybe he was using the notorious 100 to 1 ratio. :)
#98 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on December 2, 2007 10:07:49 am
Viqarm #88 {"Sadly, the house IS divided against itself, and very badly so....The nation cannot be galvanized merely by the wishes and statements of the political leaders. "}
Viqar Sahib,
Drust farmaaya aapne. You have so eloquently stated in two sentences what I could not say in a whole article. Thanks.
Viqar Sahib,
Drust farmaaya aapne. You have so eloquently stated in two sentences what I could not say in a whole article. Thanks.
#99 Posted by Karachite on December 2, 2007 10:37:25 am
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#100 Posted by Karachite on December 2, 2007 10:44:51 am
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#101 Posted by viqarm on December 2, 2007 11:21:35 am
Re: # 89 Karachite
wah, wah ... bhunay huvay Qeemay ka mazA Aa gayA.
wah, wah ... bhunay huvay Qeemay ka mazA Aa gayA.
#102 Posted by ahmedmadani on December 2, 2007 8:10:17 pm
Re: # 99... Lot of hatred problems will be solved if we pakistanis officially say as Mohajirs as NATIONALITY or urdu speaking Indian origin people are inclusive in nationalities or Ethinic groups like Punbaji and Sindhi ( both tetarts), baloachi, Kashmiri, pathan and Mohajirs all others. For gods sake bring all Biharis back once for all give one year free Border and help them to resettle where ever they want that is necessary if they be accorded full and equal citizenship, Sindhis will whine for month then will go their own way of life. Its better to solve problem by admitting to wrong done to Pakistani nationalist muslims and do not push MQM to go for extreme measures like finally they will outraged will ask for new province and if that happens no body can kill majority people of Karachi and hyderbad. This stupidity has no limits. After rise of Pakistan QAMA was obstinate tried to impose Urdu as National language on Bengalis and lead to dissection. The way majority is not conceding to little demands of minority people who are superior all other races of pakistan in achivement.
#103 Posted by ahmedmadani on December 2, 2007 8:17:40 pm
Re: # 102 There also lots of sex envy by retarts as good looking punjabi and Sindhi women are marrying dark but prosperous, smart, foren gone or returned nice muhajir boys and crossing away from retards. Now sure they are marrying only good educated and with good jobs , as they feel they can get smart children,they will care for them, care for them when old, and if they die they will care for children and generally will not be practicing polygomy.any women have told me this and women are little smarter as they are not visual stimulated but women are mean and calculating so they marry also ugly, rich, famous and old. Lot of problem can be gone if Mohajirs are recognised and addressed as nationality now living in urban areas of Sindh.
#104 Posted by Karachite on December 2, 2007 9:46:37 pm
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#105 Posted by Karachite on December 2, 2007 9:58:59 pm
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#106 Posted by Karachite on December 2, 2007 10:25:45 pm
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#107 Posted by sonofkashmir on December 3, 2007 2:12:13 am
Mr.Madni
I appreciate your candor . you demand openly what mr.salim chauhan and MQM say between the lines. Unfortunately your demands can not be met . If the rest of pakistan recognizes you mohajir as nationality,then naturally we will have to break-up sind province .That would mean the end of pakistan. pakistan was formed for muslims of muslim majority regions and there was no conception of transfer of populations in it . As for MQM,it has been demanding a separate province since last 2 decades. Infact if it were to MQM and many Urdu-speakers, Karachi,Hyderabad would become a separate state . There is no punjabi,pathan,kashmiri who doubts this. In any case MQM tried its best and failed . The state forces brutally crushed the seccesion attempt under the orders of a sindhi premier. You MENTION imposition of Urdu on Bengalis that brokeup the country . Who was the one who imposed Urdu??Not Punjabis ,not pathans,not baluchis,not sindhis. Urdu is after all not their language . It was the Urduspeaking dominated Beuracracy and Muslim League who imposed Urdu. Infact when Bengali was given the status of a national language in 1956, Babai-Urdu Maulvi Abdul-Haq led a procession against it in karachi . So today in 21st century the rest of the country cant breakup pakistan once again by dividing Sind . Any attempt by any emtiety to separate Karachi from Pakistan will be put down most cruelly by rest of pakistan. There will be no more 71s. As for biharis ,that is a non-issue . We dont want sindhis to take up arms against the state . they will not simply sit back and be allowed to turn into red-indians. They are very assertive of theur rights . Remember what happened when mush dehalvi tried building kalabagh dam??He was forced to back down within 3 weeks after all of his closes sindhi ministers threatened to resign. Bihari issue is an even more emotive issue than kalabagh dam . Bangladeshis are better muslims than us. They have offered biharis citizenship 4 times . The younger generation of biharis speak bengali . We should negotiate with the banglaeshi govt.to offer them once citizenship once more . the boharis then should accept it.
Urdu-Speakers already dominate pakistan completely . THE corporate sector consists largeky of them.Most of the industrial wealth is held by urduspeakers. Several army,naval,air chiefs have been mohajirs. There were several mohajir chief justices of supreme court. During the last 5 years all power in Sind lay with urduspeakers. Despite haveing just 25% of seats in sind assembly,MQM had 50% of ministries including the most important ministries of finance and police.Sindhis despite being the majority population were handed over unimportant ministries like rural development. Why are you Urdu-Speakers not satisfied with what you have already got?Why?Why? Name me a single Sindhi industrialist of stature?Dont act like jews and keep on harping that just because our forefathers gave sacrifices,we are eternally entitled to special priveleges.
I appreciate your candor . you demand openly what mr.salim chauhan and MQM say between the lines. Unfortunately your demands can not be met . If the rest of pakistan recognizes you mohajir as nationality,then naturally we will have to break-up sind province .That would mean the end of pakistan. pakistan was formed for muslims of muslim majority regions and there was no conception of transfer of populations in it . As for MQM,it has been demanding a separate province since last 2 decades. Infact if it were to MQM and many Urdu-speakers, Karachi,Hyderabad would become a separate state . There is no punjabi,pathan,kashmiri who doubts this. In any case MQM tried its best and failed . The state forces brutally crushed the seccesion attempt under the orders of a sindhi premier. You MENTION imposition of Urdu on Bengalis that brokeup the country . Who was the one who imposed Urdu??Not Punjabis ,not pathans,not baluchis,not sindhis. Urdu is after all not their language . It was the Urduspeaking dominated Beuracracy and Muslim League who imposed Urdu. Infact when Bengali was given the status of a national language in 1956, Babai-Urdu Maulvi Abdul-Haq led a procession against it in karachi . So today in 21st century the rest of the country cant breakup pakistan once again by dividing Sind . Any attempt by any emtiety to separate Karachi from Pakistan will be put down most cruelly by rest of pakistan. There will be no more 71s. As for biharis ,that is a non-issue . We dont want sindhis to take up arms against the state . they will not simply sit back and be allowed to turn into red-indians. They are very assertive of theur rights . Remember what happened when mush dehalvi tried building kalabagh dam??He was forced to back down within 3 weeks after all of his closes sindhi ministers threatened to resign. Bihari issue is an even more emotive issue than kalabagh dam . Bangladeshis are better muslims than us. They have offered biharis citizenship 4 times . The younger generation of biharis speak bengali . We should negotiate with the banglaeshi govt.to offer them once citizenship once more . the boharis then should accept it.
Urdu-Speakers already dominate pakistan completely . THE corporate sector consists largeky of them.Most of the industrial wealth is held by urduspeakers. Several army,naval,air chiefs have been mohajirs. There were several mohajir chief justices of supreme court. During the last 5 years all power in Sind lay with urduspeakers. Despite haveing just 25% of seats in sind assembly,MQM had 50% of ministries including the most important ministries of finance and police.Sindhis despite being the majority population were handed over unimportant ministries like rural development. Why are you Urdu-Speakers not satisfied with what you have already got?Why?Why? Name me a single Sindhi industrialist of stature?Dont act like jews and keep on harping that just because our forefathers gave sacrifices,we are eternally entitled to special priveleges.
#108 Posted by harish_hyd on December 3, 2007 3:18:35 am
Yaar you guys got Pakistan on the premise that Muslims needed a separate homeland for themselves and now you're bickering amongst yourselves. Isn't it the ultimate irony?
#109 Posted by Karachite on December 3, 2007 3:24:47 am
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#110 Posted by Karachite on December 3, 2007 3:28:10 am
107 Posted by sonofkashmir
I request chowk editors to delete this post as it is advances rascit propaganda against my city and my country.
I request chowk editors to delete this post as it is advances rascit propaganda against my city and my country.
#111 Posted by harish_hyd on December 3, 2007 3:33:58 am
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#112 Posted by tahmed32 on December 3, 2007 3:44:39 am
harish: Any individual born and raised in the Indian sub-continent has an inalienable right to bicker!! So we Pakistanis can bicker as much as we want. :-)
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