ijaz gul November 29, 2007
#3 Posted by bulleya on November 30, 2007 11:03:02 am
...i am afraid the pakistan military is in deep decay...this article does not highlight it....perhaps because the author has not seen the inside life of the military, on a day to day basis......
......pakistan military is functioning like a military, amongst the enlisted and, perhaps, upto the officers of the ranks of captain.......after that, there are major problems....
......the two biggest problems the military is facing is that no one in the military realizes its decaying state......and even if they did realize it, they do not have the intellect, exposure or education to fix it.....
.....i have met so many generals in my life......the current lot that is running the military, were my commanders, as majors and colonels, when i joined......i know them too well.....
......in capability, i would rank them far lower than the individuals i have met in pakistan from the private sector.....specially in education, intellect and exposure....
....however, the military as an institution has been dominating the country for so long, that as an institution, it is far more organized than any other....it is thus able to get most of the nation's resources, and is able to control the executive, legislature and now the judiciary.....not to mention business.....
.....however, when a decaying organization controls so much of the state, eventually the state decays also......this is what is happening to pakistan.....
....i think a total overhaul of the military is needed......not only within the domain of society-military relations, but also within its own domain.....it is still run like the 1946 british army........
.....the qualifications of a general of 1970s will be identical to those who will become generals in 30 years...they have not evolved......
........the whole training ethos of the military has to be changed....pma has to stop giving out watered down useless b.a. degrees (which are not recognized anywhere)......paf has to stop giving out watered down b.a. degrees in geography......command officers, need to have more of an education than a fake m.a degree in strategic studies from quaid azam university (or at best one from uk or usa), as their only form of education......
.......every command officer should at the very least be forced to compete in the best instutions in pakistan - lums, giki, etc. - they should have to be forced to work with private sector organizations for a few years, where they will be exposed to the best and brightest of pakistan.....
at the moment, only the medical branch (and to some extent engineers) get such exposure........both are not in command positions.......
there are many more points........for example, the judiciary, within the military is non-existent......the jag is a figure head controlled by the coas.......which is probably why musharraf and other generals have such little respect for the chief justice......
........needless to say, the pakistan military is in a sad state......it is degenarating at a rapid pace.....its only saving grace is that its enlisted and junior officers are very patriotic and dedicated........from the rank of colonel onwards it is major incompetence, lack of world affairs and far too much interest in plots and business.......
......pakistan military is functioning like a military, amongst the enlisted and, perhaps, upto the officers of the ranks of captain.......after that, there are major problems....
......the two biggest problems the military is facing is that no one in the military realizes its decaying state......and even if they did realize it, they do not have the intellect, exposure or education to fix it.....
.....i have met so many generals in my life......the current lot that is running the military, were my commanders, as majors and colonels, when i joined......i know them too well.....
......in capability, i would rank them far lower than the individuals i have met in pakistan from the private sector.....specially in education, intellect and exposure....
....however, the military as an institution has been dominating the country for so long, that as an institution, it is far more organized than any other....it is thus able to get most of the nation's resources, and is able to control the executive, legislature and now the judiciary.....not to mention business.....
.....however, when a decaying organization controls so much of the state, eventually the state decays also......this is what is happening to pakistan.....
....i think a total overhaul of the military is needed......not only within the domain of society-military relations, but also within its own domain.....it is still run like the 1946 british army........
.....the qualifications of a general of 1970s will be identical to those who will become generals in 30 years...they have not evolved......
........the whole training ethos of the military has to be changed....pma has to stop giving out watered down useless b.a. degrees (which are not recognized anywhere)......paf has to stop giving out watered down b.a. degrees in geography......command officers, need to have more of an education than a fake m.a degree in strategic studies from quaid azam university (or at best one from uk or usa), as their only form of education......
.......every command officer should at the very least be forced to compete in the best instutions in pakistan - lums, giki, etc. - they should have to be forced to work with private sector organizations for a few years, where they will be exposed to the best and brightest of pakistan.....
at the moment, only the medical branch (and to some extent engineers) get such exposure........both are not in command positions.......
there are many more points........for example, the judiciary, within the military is non-existent......the jag is a figure head controlled by the coas.......which is probably why musharraf and other generals have such little respect for the chief justice......
........needless to say, the pakistan military is in a sad state......it is degenarating at a rapid pace.....its only saving grace is that its enlisted and junior officers are very patriotic and dedicated........from the rank of colonel onwards it is major incompetence, lack of world affairs and far too much interest in plots and business.......
#2 Posted by Urstruly on November 30, 2007 10:33:14 am
I was deeply offended by the adjectives like genral, president etc. while referring to these criminals of NaPak fouj. This is not an emotional outburst but this contention is based in constitution. The article 243-245 of the constitution of Pakistan command the estabklisment opf armed forces and governs their conduct. But just as soon as these haramis annul the constitution they nullify their own legitemacy as a national organization as well descending themsleves down to the level of a criminal mafia. As a matter of fact NaPak fouj is the biggest, deadliest, and most lawless criminal mafia in the whole wide world. It is incombunt upon each and every Pakistani not to recognize their authority and if circumstances permit civil disobedience should be in order.
#1 Posted by Raw_Dust on November 30, 2007 10:22:44 am
"He refused to declare Martial Law and retained the incumbent President as the titular head of state. "
When a person takes over a country, abrogates the constitution (commits High Treason per 1973 constitution) and declares himself as the ruler just because of the 'sole' virtue of being the head of the Pakistan Criminal Army. What is it if not Martial Law?
You sound like the cousin of Saddam's information minister Baghdad Bob, I thought that job was already taken here.
Arjun over to you.
When a person takes over a country, abrogates the constitution (commits High Treason per 1973 constitution) and declares himself as the ruler just because of the 'sole' virtue of being the head of the Pakistan Criminal Army. What is it if not Martial Law?
You sound like the cousin of Saddam's information minister Baghdad Bob, I thought that job was already taken here.
Arjun over to you.
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