Hammad Siddiqi December 4, 2007
#41 Posted by laddu on December 7, 2007 8:09:51 am
These mullah are the biggest " idolators" in the sense of being "an obsessive maniac who confuses description of truth with the truth itself".
They cannot even understand the distinction between the "reality" and the "description of the reality"- the distinction that is between the "Truth" and the "Reference".
For an obsessive maniac confuses between the "description in words" with its "reference"- an conjectures that a "description of reality" would change the "reality".
A Hindu idolator knows the clear distinction between the representation of the deity and the spiritual deity and does not get so obsessed with icons and imagery.
On the other hand the mullahs think that the description of reality would alter the reality itself and then incites every momeen.
They cannot even understand the distinction between the "reality" and the "description of the reality"- the distinction that is between the "Truth" and the "Reference".
For an obsessive maniac confuses between the "description in words" with its "reference"- an conjectures that a "description of reality" would change the "reality".
A Hindu idolator knows the clear distinction between the representation of the deity and the spiritual deity and does not get so obsessed with icons and imagery.
On the other hand the mullahs think that the description of reality would alter the reality itself and then incites every momeen.
#40 Posted by Urstruly on December 7, 2007 8:06:23 am
Re: # 31
The answer is yes. This will help you understand how:
http://www.iqra.net/Quran/verses2.html
The answer is yes. This will help you understand how:
http://www.iqra.net/Quran/verses2.html
#39 Posted by Urstruly on December 7, 2007 7:59:45 am
Re: # 32
The test is very simple. It is a self test. If you have contempt in your heart for Holy Prophet (pbuh) which is even as small as a grain of sand, you will have contempt for his message too. This criterion is established by Qura'n and Hadith.
To further that criterion, it is self-evident that if you have contempt for Holy prophet (pbuh), you will have contempt for his message, and thus you will have contempt for Allah (swt) and you will have contempt for those who believe in Allah, Prophet (pbuh) and his message.
I am regretful to say that but it is a sad thruth that you and your posts exhibit classic manifestation of this contempt for all of the above, which is a hallmark of a munafique. This in turn is a classic attribute of a Quadiani. If you poke any Quadiani he will burst into open contempt for Prophet (pbuh), thus his message, thus for Allah, and thus for all those who belive in them.
Please mend your ways, its for your own good. Please read some good literature and try to understand how the Great Emancipator (pbuh) has saved us all from ignorance and self-deceit. One has to be quite a low-life not to acknowldge the good of that who saves him.
#38 Posted by stuka on December 7, 2007 7:47:05 am
Actually, Chritians should be bombing Punjab coz most dogs are named after St Thomas of Aquina...Tommy!!
#37 Posted by laddu on December 7, 2007 7:45:10 am
Re: # 33
I would welcome that......there is even a movie called my friend Ganesha!!
Heck, even I had a dog called Ramu!!
I would welcome that......there is even a movie called my friend Ganesha!!
Heck, even I had a dog called Ramu!!
#36 Posted by Dash_Dot on December 7, 2007 7:20:21 am
Re: # 18
abu safwaan man, if the majority really can do what you suggest - then how different are you from Nazis and Hitler, or any of the idiots who wisehd to wipe people of the face of this earth.
BTW I did have a pretty decent steak in many parts of India (bombay, Hyderabad, Delhi, and yes in Varanasi as well), and some great beef curry in Calcutta, Allahabad, Ayodhya. And I am not kidding you about the places, dead serious about it. You really need to get abut a bit more from your comfort zone of the settee)
abu safwaan man, if the majority really can do what you suggest - then how different are you from Nazis and Hitler, or any of the idiots who wisehd to wipe people of the face of this earth.
BTW I did have a pretty decent steak in many parts of India (bombay, Hyderabad, Delhi, and yes in Varanasi as well), and some great beef curry in Calcutta, Allahabad, Ayodhya. And I am not kidding you about the places, dead serious about it. You really need to get abut a bit more from your comfort zone of the settee)
#35 Posted by stuka on December 7, 2007 7:13:15 am
"....lest we forger indigenous majority has a right to legislate however there lil heart desire....u can be president of cattle assoc. of america but u better not order steak in mumbai..."
That os a load of crap. A majority does not have the right to legislate away the basic human rights of the minority. So, yes, you can order a steak in Mumbai..which seems to be your pet "beef" about India. You may not get steak at the local dhaba, but you can go to any continental restaurant and order it.
That os a load of crap. A majority does not have the right to legislate away the basic human rights of the minority. So, yes, you can order a steak in Mumbai..which seems to be your pet "beef" about India. You may not get steak at the local dhaba, but you can go to any continental restaurant and order it.
#34 Posted by tahmed32 on December 7, 2007 7:09:02 am
hamidm #27 These blasted Paki natives are getting uppity, what!! What is the world coming to, old boy!! Why cant they all be wogs instead, I say!!
#33 Posted by tahmed32 on December 7, 2007 7:02:05 am
laddu bhai: perhaps we should name the teddy "sri hanuman jee". That will teach you!!
#32 Posted by tahmed32 on December 7, 2007 7:01:13 am
Urstruly #30: Do you actually worship the prophet or are you simply being dramatic?
#31 Posted by Dash_Dot on December 7, 2007 6:58:09 am
urstruly: "This standard is established by God "
can we call God as a witness to say this?
just curious
can we call God as a witness to say this?
just curious
#30 Posted by Urstruly on December 7, 2007 6:04:18 am
There is no one more dear to us Muslims than the person of Holy Prophet (pbuh). Our belief cannot complete unless he becomes more dear to us than our own selves, our children, our family, our wealth, and anything that this world has to offer. This standard is established by God and His Prophet themselves. We do not name animals or inanimate objects with his (pbuh) name out of respect. If anyone has a problem with that then suck it up. Its your problem. We know very well how to deal with our problems. So try not to sermonize us with "civilized world" crap. You can have your civilized world thank you very much.
#29 Posted by laddu on December 7, 2007 4:28:32 am
Calling a cuddly non-violent Teddy bear Mohammad is indeed an insult to the Teddy bears!!!
Civilized world should never allow this!!
Civilized world should never allow this!!
#28 Posted by laddu on December 7, 2007 4:19:41 am
"This is no crime in itself, however it does reflect bad judgement on her part for which she has to take some responsibility. "
So you admit that she was responsible to some extent.
Pray, what if she 'deliberately' named that teddy bear as Mohammad ??
Would you allow the mob and the shariah courts to kill her?
Sure, there lies the limits of your 'progression' as a modern day muslim!!
So you admit that she was responsible to some extent.
Pray, what if she 'deliberately' named that teddy bear as Mohammad ??
Would you allow the mob and the shariah courts to kill her?
Sure, there lies the limits of your 'progression' as a modern day muslim!!
#27 Posted by hamidm2 on December 7, 2007 4:02:50 am
stuka,
........ i second your proposal .......... today those children named a teddy bear muhammad ..... what is next? ....... tomorrow they might name their favourite barbie doll aisha .... this kids are on a slippery slope and must be stopped! ...... i say, hang those little niggers! (sudanese are black even though they are arab wannabes like most pakis and mohammadens everywhere)
#26 Posted by khakiflash on December 7, 2007 1:36:00 am
Whatever the rights and wrongs of the incident (did I say 'rights'?) it's clear that the episode has been a total gift to Islamaphobes, certainly in the UK - and I try my best not to consider myself as one - even though the memory rankles of Sir Iqbal Sacranie, (former leader of the Muslim Parliament of Great Britain) describing me and my ilk as "repulsive, diseased and morally deficient". Can we really carry on denouncing those who don't necessarily hold to the beliefs or behavioural strictures of our own 'group'? If one does voluntarily subscribe to them and then falls short, it may indeed be pertinent to cry "foul", but surely not otherwise - although I agree that for all individuals 2-way sensitivity is desirable. A bit more tolerance all round would certainly not be amiss. (By the way, isn't the forename 'Jesus' relatively common for males in Latin American countries?)
Khaki
Khaki
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