Hammad Siddiqi December 4, 2007
#81 Posted by LOOP on December 8, 2007 5:50:27 am
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#83 Posted by LOOP on December 8, 2007 5:54:31 am
i just scrolled down and reread--- kamath is the one who owns a dust ridden teddy.. are you sure its dust ridden or just exhausted with play??
#84 Posted by LOOP on December 8, 2007 5:54:35 am
i just scrolled down and reread--- kamath is the one who owns a dust ridden teddy.. are you sure its dust ridden or just exhausted with play??
#85 Posted by LOOP on December 8, 2007 7:43:39 am
Re: # 73
salim chauhan do you know that its sunnah to keep the beard.. so these men you have a dislike for are atlest following the sunnah.. while you i presume are shaving off yours everyday contrary to the sunnah..
so if anyone should defend the prophet and his religion it should be those men in caves and god help us; never you!!!
salim chauhan do you know that its sunnah to keep the beard.. so these men you have a dislike for are atlest following the sunnah.. while you i presume are shaving off yours everyday contrary to the sunnah..
so if anyone should defend the prophet and his religion it should be those men in caves and god help us; never you!!!
#86 Posted by tahmed32 on December 8, 2007 7:55:49 am
LOOP: Did you know that by reducing Islam to a fashion-statement you are revealing your own inability to understand the simple and profound message of the Quran?
#87 Posted by stuka on December 8, 2007 9:29:12 am
"Stuka...please spare me the rhetoric...u r a smart guy so dont give me this bullshit about Islamic tradition u approve n disapprive of otherwise i'll be forced to bring some of ur noble traditions of mother burning n cow-piss drinkin..."
Excuse me? You bring up the fact that not eating beef is retarded, but are defending slaughtering live animals on the street. A BAN on eatig beef by the government is retarded; voluntarily not shoosing to eat it is not retarded. Same goes for eating pork. You may CHOOSE to not eat pork, banning my eating it is retarded.
"n its utter bullshit that cows cant be slaughtered in residential areas in indida cause of hygenic issues...r u fukkin kiddin me....have u ever been 2 india....they would let ppl shit in the middle of the street n take ppl bath in cow-piss in the middle of the road but god-forbid someone slaughters a cow....sell crazy somewhere else boss"
Which residential areas are you talking about? Try cutting a goat in Defence Colony and watch getting your ass kicked. You are deliberately distorting what I am saying. I said that beef is not readily available...as in I went to Dunkin Donuts in Lahore and could not order a bacon egg and cheese sandwich either. However, beef is available in Muslim ghettos and in luxury restaurants. Take your pick. Yes, the definition of "human rights" evolve..as in the German definition of "human rights" from the years of 1933 to 1945 were somewhat different relative to today. That does not mean there is a free pass...it means it is up to our conscience to accuse or defend a value system we see fit. You can apply your consideration of the majority will to both the Sudan of today and the Germany of 1939. I can choose to condemn both as evil. Nobody is saying democracy cannot be evil. It is better than alternatives; but it is not perfect.
Excuse me? You bring up the fact that not eating beef is retarded, but are defending slaughtering live animals on the street. A BAN on eatig beef by the government is retarded; voluntarily not shoosing to eat it is not retarded. Same goes for eating pork. You may CHOOSE to not eat pork, banning my eating it is retarded.
"n its utter bullshit that cows cant be slaughtered in residential areas in indida cause of hygenic issues...r u fukkin kiddin me....have u ever been 2 india....they would let ppl shit in the middle of the street n take ppl bath in cow-piss in the middle of the road but god-forbid someone slaughters a cow....sell crazy somewhere else boss"
Which residential areas are you talking about? Try cutting a goat in Defence Colony and watch getting your ass kicked. You are deliberately distorting what I am saying. I said that beef is not readily available...as in I went to Dunkin Donuts in Lahore and could not order a bacon egg and cheese sandwich either. However, beef is available in Muslim ghettos and in luxury restaurants. Take your pick. Yes, the definition of "human rights" evolve..as in the German definition of "human rights" from the years of 1933 to 1945 were somewhat different relative to today. That does not mean there is a free pass...it means it is up to our conscience to accuse or defend a value system we see fit. You can apply your consideration of the majority will to both the Sudan of today and the Germany of 1939. I can choose to condemn both as evil. Nobody is saying democracy cannot be evil. It is better than alternatives; but it is not perfect.
#88 Posted by abu_safwaan on December 8, 2007 9:45:17 am
stuka i condemn both as well...but fact on grounds remains the same
#89 Posted by rashid_s on December 8, 2007 6:48:05 pm
@85- I could not help myself wondering at the definition of sunnah of the Prophet(essentials of all Religions and Church/Priests dogma).
-All sorts of people before and after Muhammad kept beard in those days and even now.
-Abu Jahel and Abu Lahab and others, ardent enemies of Muhammad kept beards.
-Shaving with rusty knives, broken piece of glass etc must have been pain full and traumatic to say the least. (Even with Mach Five razors it is a chore today. For this reason people even kept long hairs on their heads)
Nah kuch sikhaa nah jaana nah phechaana
Faqat dhaari barha kar bangaye maulaana!
Rashid
-All sorts of people before and after Muhammad kept beard in those days and even now.
-Abu Jahel and Abu Lahab and others, ardent enemies of Muhammad kept beards.
-Shaving with rusty knives, broken piece of glass etc must have been pain full and traumatic to say the least. (Even with Mach Five razors it is a chore today. For this reason people even kept long hairs on their heads)
Nah kuch sikhaa nah jaana nah phechaana
Faqat dhaari barha kar bangaye maulaana!
Rashid
#90 Posted by zeemax on December 8, 2007 10:36:49 pm
hindoos ... (and munafiques),
Why was an australian tourist sentenced to 10 years of rigorous imprisonment for spraying graffiti on a poster of King Bhumibol in Phuket?
It was because reverence for the King is an integral part of the Thai political system, without which it would collapse. It is criminal to attempt to dilute that reverence.
It's the same in this case, except ten times over.
The Sudanese court did the right thing in taking all facts into account including lack of intent and awarding the minimum possible punishment under the law.
The Sudanese President did the right thing in pardoning the punishment on humanitarian grounds.
There was nothing wrong with the legal basis of the sentencing, which stands. And it should and will remain in all Islamic countries in one form or another.
So, go back and enjoy your respective cow piss cocktails with idli hors' deouvres.
Why was an australian tourist sentenced to 10 years of rigorous imprisonment for spraying graffiti on a poster of King Bhumibol in Phuket?
It was because reverence for the King is an integral part of the Thai political system, without which it would collapse. It is criminal to attempt to dilute that reverence.
It's the same in this case, except ten times over.
The Sudanese court did the right thing in taking all facts into account including lack of intent and awarding the minimum possible punishment under the law.
The Sudanese President did the right thing in pardoning the punishment on humanitarian grounds.
There was nothing wrong with the legal basis of the sentencing, which stands. And it should and will remain in all Islamic countries in one form or another.
So, go back and enjoy your respective cow piss cocktails with idli hors' deouvres.
#91 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on December 9, 2007 9:02:13 am
LOOP #85 {"salim chauhan do you know that its sunnah to keep the beard.. ...so if anyone should defend the prophet and his religion it should be those men in caves and god help us; never you!!! "}
Dear LOOP,
Being compassionate, being logical, being clean, being merciful, being nonviolent, being loving, being caring, being honest, and breathing air ARE ALL sunnah. Why must Sunnah be reserved for practices that are either outmoded, unnecessary, or inefficient?
If the Holy Prophet (PBUH) were alive today and based on his practical, loving, and rational nature, he would probably be clean-shaven, simply but tastefully dressed, and driving a car, instead of riding a camel. Oh! BTW, he would be against flying passenger jets into tall buildings, honor killings, suicide bombings, hatred of other Muslims and non-Muslims, suppression of women, and dictatorship, monarchy, and theocracy.
The last thing we need from the bearded cowards in caves is any defense of the Holy Prophet (PBUH). Thanks to these irrational and violent people, our Holy Prophet's (PBUH) popularity has never been lower in the non-Muslim world. These evil people have tarnished Our Holy Prophet's (PBUH) image more than the foolish cartoonists, mediocre authors, and illiterate televangelists.
Dear LOOP,
Being compassionate, being logical, being clean, being merciful, being nonviolent, being loving, being caring, being honest, and breathing air ARE ALL sunnah. Why must Sunnah be reserved for practices that are either outmoded, unnecessary, or inefficient?
If the Holy Prophet (PBUH) were alive today and based on his practical, loving, and rational nature, he would probably be clean-shaven, simply but tastefully dressed, and driving a car, instead of riding a camel. Oh! BTW, he would be against flying passenger jets into tall buildings, honor killings, suicide bombings, hatred of other Muslims and non-Muslims, suppression of women, and dictatorship, monarchy, and theocracy.
The last thing we need from the bearded cowards in caves is any defense of the Holy Prophet (PBUH). Thanks to these irrational and violent people, our Holy Prophet's (PBUH) popularity has never been lower in the non-Muslim world. These evil people have tarnished Our Holy Prophet's (PBUH) image more than the foolish cartoonists, mediocre authors, and illiterate televangelists.
#92 Posted by HP on December 9, 2007 9:39:44 am
Salim,
After a long time I have seen a better post from you. If it were for guys like Loop, we all were to ride the camels because that is Prophet's sunnah!
Btw, I would like chowk staff to look at Loop's post # 81 and read this.
“and for the non-muslim boy who owns a teddy (??) get help and if i ever see you I will surely not wait for a court ruling but kill you on the spot!!”
I think this guy must be removed from posting for making such statements.
After a long time I have seen a better post from you. If it were for guys like Loop, we all were to ride the camels because that is Prophet's sunnah!
Btw, I would like chowk staff to look at Loop's post # 81 and read this.
“and for the non-muslim boy who owns a teddy (??) get help and if i ever see you I will surely not wait for a court ruling but kill you on the spot!!”
I think this guy must be removed from posting for making such statements.
#93 Posted by nasah on December 9, 2007 1:13:21 pm
Re: # 92
“and for the non-muslim boy who owns a teddy (??) get help and if i ever see you I will surely not wait for a court ruling but kill you on the spot!!”
I think this guy must be removed from posting for making such statements."
I agree -- the guy is loopy.
“and for the non-muslim boy who owns a teddy (??) get help and if i ever see you I will surely not wait for a court ruling but kill you on the spot!!”
I think this guy must be removed from posting for making such statements."
I agree -- the guy is loopy.
#94 Posted by Eklavya on December 9, 2007 2:52:49 pm
Hope the lesson has been taught, and no lady (or layda) from Britain (or elsewhere) will repeat the mistake.
If that happens, the purpose would have been served. The rest is un-necessary and un-needed.
If that happens, the purpose would have been served. The rest is un-necessary and un-needed.
#95 Posted by Eklavya on December 9, 2007 2:55:21 pm
As to the liberals, they should thank the President of Sudan for sparing the hide of one of their own, thoroughly undeserved this generosity though it was.
#96 Posted by masanamuthu on December 9, 2007 3:17:32 pm
I support the punishment given to the British teacher. There are examples in the hadiths/sunnah etc..
Moreover, it is an insult for the teddy bears to be named after this violent megalomaniac.
Moreover, it is an insult for the teddy bears to be named after this violent megalomaniac.
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