M B Qasmi December 5, 2007
#81 Posted by nkg on December 10, 2007 10:25:12 pm
Re: # 71
In fact, PV Narashimha Rao has tried to destroy BJP, by allowing the destruction of structure. It is no loss to India. Moslems and Indians has clashed with each other before Ram temple movement also ( UP, Gujrat, Hubli etc.. was notorious for that). So, another riot is nothing to bother P V N. But once the destructtion is over, the legal autorities will take over the site, and BJP/VHP/RSS people will not be allowed to take up any construction activity. That will prove the failure of BJP. BJP/VHP/RSS in fact expected that, they will come to power one day in the state and centre and change the constitution to build Ram temple. May be as concession will rebuild the mosque in another site. That is not possible, as the matter is under court. So, entire gameplan of BJP backfired and their top leader L K Advani is in constant threat of being implicated by Liberhan commission. Today, if Sonai Gandhi is out of jail and Congress is getting enough breathing space related to Bofors, then it is the policy of PVN to allow the VHP people to destriy the structure. The BMAC is constantly backed by Congress.
In fact, PV Narashimha Rao has tried to destroy BJP, by allowing the destruction of structure. It is no loss to India. Moslems and Indians has clashed with each other before Ram temple movement also ( UP, Gujrat, Hubli etc.. was notorious for that). So, another riot is nothing to bother P V N. But once the destructtion is over, the legal autorities will take over the site, and BJP/VHP/RSS people will not be allowed to take up any construction activity. That will prove the failure of BJP. BJP/VHP/RSS in fact expected that, they will come to power one day in the state and centre and change the constitution to build Ram temple. May be as concession will rebuild the mosque in another site. That is not possible, as the matter is under court. So, entire gameplan of BJP backfired and their top leader L K Advani is in constant threat of being implicated by Liberhan commission. Today, if Sonai Gandhi is out of jail and Congress is getting enough breathing space related to Bofors, then it is the policy of PVN to allow the VHP people to destriy the structure. The BMAC is constantly backed by Congress.
#82 Posted by VRV on December 11, 2007 2:46:45 am
81,
nkg,
No doubt the PVNR and Sangh played cat and mouse but the Sangh made several gashes on India in the whole process. BJP took advantage of the state jurisdiction on law and order. Kalyan Singh did everything in his power to demolish the structure. Advani did everything to gather this monkey brigade around Ayodhya.
As 4 Liberhan Commission or any Commission in India that imnplicates the culprits, they are (Commission Reports) a little bettar than a toilet rolls.
In the whole process:
a. State (country) looked stupid
b. Law and Order facade was torn apart
c. Judiciary was fooled
d. Country lost it's ppl
e. Economy tottered (it just stood on its feet after a huge dent in 1991, where we had to mortgage our gold to Bank of England and borrow heavily from the World Bank)
f. The Repressentation of Peoples Act was made redundant
g. Gullible masses were mobilised for an illegal and unconstitutional act (6/12).
the ONLY entity that gained from the episode is the BJP which increased its tally in the Parliament and state assemblies.
nkg,
No doubt the PVNR and Sangh played cat and mouse but the Sangh made several gashes on India in the whole process. BJP took advantage of the state jurisdiction on law and order. Kalyan Singh did everything in his power to demolish the structure. Advani did everything to gather this monkey brigade around Ayodhya.
As 4 Liberhan Commission or any Commission in India that imnplicates the culprits, they are (Commission Reports) a little bettar than a toilet rolls.
In the whole process:
a. State (country) looked stupid
b. Law and Order facade was torn apart
c. Judiciary was fooled
d. Country lost it's ppl
e. Economy tottered (it just stood on its feet after a huge dent in 1991, where we had to mortgage our gold to Bank of England and borrow heavily from the World Bank)
f. The Repressentation of Peoples Act was made redundant
g. Gullible masses were mobilised for an illegal and unconstitutional act (6/12).
the ONLY entity that gained from the episode is the BJP which increased its tally in the Parliament and state assemblies.
#83 Posted by VRV on December 11, 2007 2:48:18 am
As 4 Liberhan Commission or any Commission, they are (Commission Reports) a little bettar than toilet rolls.
#84 Posted by Cobra on December 11, 2007 8:20:08 am
VRV, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. And I don't deny all the things you mentioned. Still Babri Masjid had to go.
#85 Posted by nkg on December 11, 2007 10:33:10 pm
Re: # 82
If PVN would have imposed 356 on UP Gov. and not allowed the Kar Sevaks to enter the site, the entire matter would have been different. It was quite clear to PVN that, Advani could not control the mob to perform only Kar Seva. People like Sadvi Ritamvara etc... they have no political ambition from this work. Why should they control themselves? Only LK Advani wanted to use this as part of his political gameplan.
Look, every now and then RSS/VHP would have brought the issue. It was difficult for congress to stop the hysteria that time. Open economy and increased opportunity has changed middle class in India. They are now aloof from Ram temple movement. Advani can not create another such movement now.
If PVN would have imposed 356 on UP Gov. and not allowed the Kar Sevaks to enter the site, the entire matter would have been different. It was quite clear to PVN that, Advani could not control the mob to perform only Kar Seva. People like Sadvi Ritamvara etc... they have no political ambition from this work. Why should they control themselves? Only LK Advani wanted to use this as part of his political gameplan.
Look, every now and then RSS/VHP would have brought the issue. It was difficult for congress to stop the hysteria that time. Open economy and increased opportunity has changed middle class in India. They are now aloof from Ram temple movement. Advani can not create another such movement now.
#86 Posted by nkg on December 11, 2007 10:37:00 pm
Re: # 84
May be. But let parliament,state assembly etc...decide that. All of us are supposed to be following the principle of democracy.
May be. But let parliament,state assembly etc...decide that. All of us are supposed to be following the principle of democracy.
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