The Conspiracy Theory

Re: # 91:-- In surprise attack time and space matters.With these bases flying time to various future targets has been substantially reduced.This is a matter of precision target attacks and gunnery.

Re: # :-- You need to brush up your assertions.Knowledge does not go by ranks.Worlds greatest military historian Liddell Hart was a captain ! Sivaji the father of guerrilla warfare was a low ranking Maratha Sardar.Generals like Guderian and Sharon acknowledged Lidell Harts contribution.You seemed to be immersed in class distinctions talking in terms like " Lowly major" .

#76 Posted by pavocavalry,

Do they really need all these bases in Afghanistan when they've got floating islands in all seas?

Speaking of conspiracy theories, here's the bat-shit-crazy as always author of mushy's book..

Bull in China's shop

Humayun Gauhar
America has two immediate objectives in Pakistan.
One: neuter our nuclear programme by bringing it under its control.
Two: get the Peoples Republic of China out of Pakistan; particularly out of every strategic advantage that it has there, otherwise its encirclement would be futile.
The latter is part of the US grand design, which has made it a bull in China's shop. There can only be one result: bull burgers, or perhaps sweet and sour bull. Everything else that it claims to be promoting, like 'democracy' and the ganging up of US stooges and agents euphemistically called 'moderate forces' are just weapons of mass destruction to create chaos and weaken us to achieve these two objectives.
Not to put too fine a point on it, America wants to make Pakistan a complete vassal state (partial it already is, like nearly all other countries, except China and Russia) that runs only according to its will and to its advantage. Some Pakistanis might find this an interesting proposition and even welcome it. Some would be happier still if we were to become America's 51st state. But the vast patriotic majority balks at this bleak possibility.
To achieve these nefarious objectives America is trying to create a false justification for political and military intervention - just as it did with Iraq - that Pakistan is the most dangerous place in the world because its nuclear arsenal is under tenuous control and will be totally out of control if Muslim extremists take over the state, of which, if America is to be believed, there is an imminent possibility (Actually, this could only happen if America does actually attack Pakistan either from the inside or outside).
Since Pakistan is much bigger than Iraq and Afghanistan, and far more powerful, they daren't attack it frontally. It could lead to Armageddon. So they are using the old Soviet trick that was applied in Afghanistan: force a stooge leader to 'invite' America into the country to restore peace and fight the militants.
Thus to make the danger of 'terrorists with Pakistani nukes rampant' sound real, America weakened President Musharraf (though it is Musharraf's fault for starting target practice on his foot with a single-minded obsession) and threw Pakistan's political process, which otherwise was well on course towards its next objective of elections after the parliaments had run their terms for the first time ever, into turmoil. When Musharraf was weakened enough they forcibly re-insinuated Benazir Bhutto into our body politic.
America and its Pakistani stooges talk ad nauseam of the rule of law, but to reintroduce Benazir into Pakistan, Musharraf had to make a complete mockery of the law - one law for her and another for the rest of us. Not a squeak out of America and its Pakistani stooges when that happened. To its utter disbelief the USA soon discovered that Benazir has become delusional and lives in a time warp.
Worse, far from being 'the most popular leader in Pakistan' who owns the 'only national party with the largest following' she is only a small time sub-nationalist from rural Sindh. America the Democrat has allowed Pakistan's Benazir off the hook because it bought this false notion thanks to the British and Benazir-hired PR firms and lobbyists.
To balance this, Mr Nawaz Sharif was also allowed back into the equation, though, needless to say, there is one law for him too and another for Benazir. How else could his and his brother's papers be rejected by the Election Commission? Because he has been convicted and she hasn't?
What nonsense! They could easily have made another perfidious law that would allow him specifically to contest elections regardless, but not any other convict. And as far as I know his brother has not been convicted of any crime. It would seem that America is promoting corruption in the name of democracy, anti-Islamism in the name of secularism and fascism in the name of moderation - fascism being the pursuit of the most retrogressive ends (like fortifying feudalism) by employing the most progressive rhetoric (Islamic Socialism). This is exactly what Father Bhutto's government achieved.
Mercifully, the chances that elections will make Benazir prime minister are near zilch. However, no party is likely to win a majority, so there will have to be a coalition government again. The chances that the PML-Q will win the most seats are the highest.
Chances are, too, that it will not need PPP seats to achieve a majority. But if the army is forced by America to force Benazir into the coalition with the PML-Q kicking and screaming, then we are in for chaos - precisely what America wants in order to enter 'this ungovernable country', for such a cat and dog coalition would not last long. But if by the time of the elections Musharraf has lifted the emergency, which he has officially said he might, then only the army will have the power to withstand US diktat. Who would bet on that?
President Musharraf has already warned the West against forcing its various versions of electoral democracy, which took them hundreds of years to achieve, down our throats. He should go further. When the emergency ends he will be a tiger with one tooth. What's the point?
A US-based opinion poll has it that Musharraf's popularity has increased to 74 percent after he became a civilian president and 79 percent feel that democracy will be strengthened. This is the time to strike. Musharraf has said that he will leave if the election results are not to his satisfaction.
Good. Why does he not really resign as president after the elections, enter politics formally, head his own political party and eventually become the prime minister himself? It won't take long, given the pathetic opposition. Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain has offered that he is ready to vacate his position as president of the Pakistan Muslim League for Musharraf.
This is one hell of an offer, which will be good for Pakistan and good for Musharraf. He will be surprised at how many people from the 'silent majority' who always supported him but never went public join his party.
Niccolo Machiavelli said this about elections: "Each candidate behaved well in the hope of being judged worthy of election. However, this system was disastrous when the city had become corrupt. For then it was not the most virtuous but the most powerful who stood for elections, and the weak, even if virtuous, were too frightened to run for office."
E-mail: hgauhar@nation.com.pk

Re: # 86:-- Anything is possible.This is the age of deception.

Re: # 84;-- For your kind information NATION is the only paper that really published articles criticising Musharraf.Correct your facts dear Sir.

Re: # 84:-- You seem to be a class conscious guys.In discussion argue with facts,not by thinking that you are superior.Iskandar Mirza was Jinnah's handpicked choice as Defence Secretary.Ghulam Mohammad was Jinnah's handpicked choice as Finance Minister.If Jinnah had not kept Section 9 in the 1935 Act i.e the power to dismiss the assembly Ghulam Mohammad could not have dissolved the Assembly in 1954.Yes the Congress was a real party.The Hindus were more committed.Lastly my dear Saint Marys is in Lalazar in Rawalpindi Cantt.Since you seem to be class conscious.Argue with facts.

#76 Posted by pavocavalry on December 9, 2007 11:52:03 am


The USA wanted bases to carry out surgical strikes in the future.


So?

Unless it is your contention that the US government was behind 9/11 and bin laden was a CIA agent who conveniently picked afghanistan to hide, it means nothing.

Re: # 77:-- Belling the cat means total victory.Like Lenin in 1917.Like Khomeini in 1979.Like Aslam Watanjar in the Saur Inqilab in Afghanistan in 1978.Anyhow 100 marks to all those who struggled.As long as Punjab remains docile there can be no change in Government.

#47 Posted by pavocavalry

“who destroyed democracy in Pakistan Ghulam Mohammad and Iskandar Mirza were handpicked choice of MA Jinnah.”

You are now annoying me. Iskandar was the Deputy Commissioner Peshawar at the time of partition. Ghulam Mohammed along with ch. Mohd Ali, were big time ICS officers. Once they opted for Pakistan, they were accommodated in the Pakistan civil Service. What they did after Jinnah was not his fault neither he picked them to do what they did. Both Ghulam Mohammed and Iskandar Mirza became President and GG because they were supported by the army and especially Gen. Ayub Khan. Read Ayub Khan’s own book for better understanding of the Pakistan politics in 1950s.

Major Amin, I have never heard your name before nor do I read the Nation, a certified Pro army paper that still tows the army‘s Islamic line. Writing for Nation to me is a disqualification and not some thing that can be flaunted. But you seem to be in the habit of flaunting your credentials. Would your writing for the Columbia U and the Nation means that you are all knowledgeable?

I have no interest in flaunting my credentials which certainly are much better than a lowly major of the army who thinks he is an expert on the army affairs.
I don’t have time to read your articles you posted here but I am sure some Indians and I hope there are a few educated Indians(I doubt that seriously) on this site who would take up your assertions in the articles.

“The Congress was superior that is why they produced a constitution in 2 years.”

Congress was superior…that is some statement from a historian on a political party. You appear to be an amateur historian.

So you went to a school which has a branch on Murree road in Arya Mohalla, Rawalpindi. It shows!

#28 Posted by masadi on December 9, 2007 5:35:30 am

Masadi..if the CIA did indeed bump off zia, why couldn't it bump off Castro and Chavez(or saddam before the iraq war)...

Re: # 79:-- Late Nawab Akbar Bugti taunted a Jaali Baloch Sardar ' What kind of Baloch you are , you sold a shopkeeper( Kansi being a mercantile tribe) to the Americans ! This is what I referred to.Kansi was three years my junior in school at Quetta.May God Bless his soul !

Re: # 79:-- I admire those tribesmen whatever their beliefs.I have not been to a mosque for 30 years and drink about a litre of Whiskey or Vodka but hats off to these indomitable tribesmen !

Re: # 75;-- My dear I have disgreed and disobeyed my bosses in the army and evn been arrested for that.That was a matter of life and your career.Here its just talk.I am in a place where every day 5 to 10 people die.I have to praise or criticise,religion is not the issue.

Why Waziristan cannot be conquered
by A. H. Amin
(Friday, February 13, 2004)

"Beware of despising the tribals. They brought both Muslim and non Muslim Emperors to grief whether it was Jahangir, Shah Jahan, Aurangzeb, Ranjit Singh or the British king."

Those who know the Pathans and their history will know exactly what is happening in Waziristan today and which Lashkar is doing what and for what reason. The tribal Pathans have traditionally been supreme fighters who defied the Mughal occupiers, the Sikh occupiers, the British occupiers and now the latest occupiers, i.e. the US coalition chasing the Pathans and Muslims of various castes and creeds motivated by sheer ideology.

While the tribesmen know the art of resistance they also know the art of extortion from occupiers who try to buy them. Thus while the tribal Pathans killed many thousand occupiers in the British era they also managed to extort many subsidy payments from the British. Thus the same tribesmen who worked as contract laborers making roads for the British during day time, enjoyed sniping and shooting many British officers after sunset or during daytime when not on duty.

Thus when a lashkar of tribesmen appears to be on the payroll of political agents fed by US CIA dollars, all is not what it seems. In this case the tribals are performing an overt function of collaboration and a covert function of increasing their financial muscle which may be subsequently channelised into gun running, drugs or Jihad.

The tribesmen were not loyal subjects of the British. They spent their lives in sniping and ambushing the British and their mercenary Indian troops. Their life script was not to get a BA degree and become a minor civil servant or an ICS officer more loyal than the King. Nor did they get barristers degree and conduct profitable law practices in the courts of the British occupiers.

These men defied the British, killing over 10,000 British or Indian troops from 1849 to 1947, bleeding the British Empire white, forcing the British to maintain a division plus force in the Trans Indus tribal tract. These tribesmen gave sanctuary to Mughal Prince Ferozshah and to the followers of Syed Ahmad Shaheed of Rai Barelly at Malka and Ambela. These tribesmen greeted the British Indian army with fire while many today are famous as great Muslim leaders accepted knighthood and were ridiculed for doing so by Maulana Zafar Ali Khan of "Zamindar" fame.

The tribesmen acceded to Pakistan out of their free will. They were not conquered by the Pakistan Army. As a matter of fact no army including the Mughal, Sikh or British ever succeeded in conquering them. The tribal areas were occupied, overrun but never conquered. Their mosques were never used as stables and powder magazines as many in the tract East of Indus including the Badshahi Mosque of Lahore.

The tribesmen were not saved by the army of the English East India Company unlike the Muslims of Delhi or UP or the Muslims of Punjab and settled Pathan areas were from Hindu Marathas and Sikhs in 1803 and 1849. The tribesmen's mosques were not restored after humble petitioning to the English East India Company as was the case with Badshahi Mosque of Lahore in 1856.

The tribesmen were not willing mercenaries of the British and many Mehsuds, Wazirs and Afridis defected to the German lines in WW-I and returned to Tirah and Waziristan to wage Jihad against the British. The tribesmen cannot be compared with mercenary Muslim troops who opened fire on the Holy Ka'aba on British orders or who gunned down freedom fighters like an FF unit did at Jallianwalla Bagh in 1919.

The tribesmen acceded to Pakistan on the solemn assurance by Mr Jinnah that their customs and their Pathan way of life would not be interfered with. The tribesmen waged Pakistan's first successful Jihad in Kashmir in 1947-48. The tribesmen were used as cannon fodder during the Afghan War of 1979-89 when many generals became rich overnight and won cheap glory without exposing themselves to within 300 miles of hostile fire. The tribals braved salvoes of Soviet Katushkas and shrapnel of Hind Gun ships while sons of ex military tailors became billionaires.

The tribals were more Pan Islamist than Jamaluddin Afghani, more martial than any so called martial race of Indo Pak. More resolute than any general from Cape Komorin to Khunjerab Pass. The tribals are raised as snipers, not as sycophants, their life script is not to please 15 different seniors and get a good ACR, practicing sycophancy with civilian prime ministers and launching coups without a shot being fired against unarmed civilian heads of state.

What is happening in the tribal areas is not in Pakistan's national interests. The venom which has been forced into the tribal Pathan's soul is counterproductive for Pakistan in the long run.

The tribal areas has seen many occupiers. They are classic practitioners of Liddell Harts strategy of indirect approach. Their guerrilla tactics are far more subtle than that of Mao, Ho Chi Minh or Che Guevara. They apply Mao without knowing what he had written. They apply Sandino's Nicaraguan tactics which brought US Marines to grief without ever having heard of him. They are warriors par excellence.

For each militant handed over the tribals gain goodwill from greedy political agents who they deceive and thus succeed in sheltering 50 militants. There is a method in the apparent outward collaboration of the tribals. They cannot be overawed by a telephone call or bought by a million dollar retainer.

No cadet school or college can tame the tribals for whom music is the whistling bullet and its ricochet in the rocky gorges of Waziristan. The tribals don't need a federal government to make money. Their very location is an asset.

Beware of despising the tribals. They brought both Muslim and non Muslim Emperors to grief whether it was Jahangir, Shah Jahan, Aurangzeb, Ranjit Singh or the British king.

These are not the men who would sell their mother for a thousand dollars as some US senator said about some Pakistani leaders. These leaders may be found in Dera Ghazi Khan or somewhere East of the tribal areas. The tribals are sons of their fathers and there is no confusion about their paternity.

A man who does not know the tribal Pathan way of life is not competent to judge the subtleties of their character. It appears that the same mistake is being made today in the highest echelons of Pakistan's present military usurpers.


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by courtesy & © 2004 A. H. Amin

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Education :-- FORMAN CHRISTIAN COLLEGE LAHORE , PAKISTAN MILITARY ACADEMY KAKUL .
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