Moeed Pirzada December 7, 2007
#13 Posted by hamidm2 on December 8, 2007 8:19:51 pm
Re: # 11
masadi,
.... what 'thought'? .......... your romance with mills and boon is getting just as stale as urstruly's obsession with a fourteen hundred year old book of dubious authorship ..... you guys need to read another book and move on with your miserable lives ..... trust me, the us elite is not keeping you from using deodrant or using utensils - it is your own stupidity ........
masadi,
.... what 'thought'? .......... your romance with mills and boon is getting just as stale as urstruly's obsession with a fourteen hundred year old book of dubious authorship ..... you guys need to read another book and move on with your miserable lives ..... trust me, the us elite is not keeping you from using deodrant or using utensils - it is your own stupidity ........
#12 Posted by Kamath on December 8, 2007 6:50:42 pm
Re: # 2 Blithe Spirit Yar:
S.Arabia has been the dumping ground for many a rulers, dictators and corrupt politicians. How can C. J. Chaudhry live next to them in a hot country. Who in the right mind would loose his pension!
Kamath
S.Arabia has been the dumping ground for many a rulers, dictators and corrupt politicians. How can C. J. Chaudhry live next to them in a hot country. Who in the right mind would loose his pension!
Kamath
#11 Posted by masadi on December 8, 2007 5:19:35 pm
hamid writes "mad masadi.....get a job"
So much thought I put into the post and instead of responding to what I wrote, the miserable fcuk says "get a job". That is the dumb mentality people of conscience and thought have to deal with in a world dominated by the US elite...
So much thought I put into the post and instead of responding to what I wrote, the miserable fcuk says "get a job". That is the dumb mentality people of conscience and thought have to deal with in a world dominated by the US elite...
#10 Posted by hamidm2 on December 8, 2007 10:11:35 am
Re: # 8
ijaz mian,
....... you can easily set yourself free by converting your dollars to euros or yens .....
ijaz mian,
....... you can easily set yourself free by converting your dollars to euros or yens .....
#9 Posted by tahmed32 on December 8, 2007 7:51:50 am
blithe #2 This was indeed the kind of dirty "oversmartness" expected from Mush - try to embarrass the CJ by giving him the choice of rejecting the "hajj offer" vs. leaving Pakistan at this time when he stands like a rock that has galvanized all Pakistanis who understand the importance of the rule of law.
#8 Posted by ijaz_gul on December 8, 2007 7:40:31 am
Pirzada,
I am confused. would you care to explain the modalities of what you wrote.
"With the creeping globalisation, the nostalgic water-tight state is neither possible nor desirable. Regional and foreign influences will enter and often mask themselves as domestic players. Now the Pakistani establishment has to learn to govern in a system not balanced on static but dynamic equilibrium."
I hope you know what happened at Bretton Woods. It happened to us too.
Care to respond.
I am confused. would you care to explain the modalities of what you wrote.
"With the creeping globalisation, the nostalgic water-tight state is neither possible nor desirable. Regional and foreign influences will enter and often mask themselves as domestic players. Now the Pakistani establishment has to learn to govern in a system not balanced on static but dynamic equilibrium."
I hope you know what happened at Bretton Woods. It happened to us too.
Care to respond.
#7 Posted by hamidm2 on December 8, 2007 7:27:47 am
Re: # 3
mad masadi,
........ as an american citizen it makes me feel really proud that my government has the ability to change regimes, change the climate, change the earth's orbit and change al-lah mian if we want to .......... now, maybe we can get you to change your underwear and silly one note tune ....... get a job!
mad masadi,
........ as an american citizen it makes me feel really proud that my government has the ability to change regimes, change the climate, change the earth's orbit and change al-lah mian if we want to .......... now, maybe we can get you to change your underwear and silly one note tune ....... get a job!
#6 Posted by zeemax on December 8, 2007 3:51:29 am
.. let alone have a clue where Jalaluddin Haqqani comes from and why he spurned Islamabad's offer in 2001 to switch sides against Taliban.
#5 Posted by zeemax on December 8, 2007 2:37:21 am
Well, Author, I agree with your contentions, but what will you do with certain people (an interactor called HP in particular) here who think all of Taliban, Waziristan, Lal-Masjid, Swat etc. are/were Pakistani intelligence inspired operations with hot-lines open to CIA?
Of-course they don't know Taliban jumped in only from Kandhar when Hekmatyar (whom ISI/CIA were supporting) failed to take Kabul despite rocketing it for months. That Waziristan peace agreement of musharraf (when the corp commander, Peshawar embraced Abdullah Mehsud) was reviled by the Americans and Bush had made his displeasure clear. That the peace agreement fell apart only due to Lal Masjid. And that Swat and Lal Masjid's demands are one and the same.
They also have never heard of something called 'Nizam-e-Adal' ordinance which has been accepted to be revived in Swat i.e. Fazlullah's demand has been accepted.
Sure, all of the above are 'intelligence operations'.
Of-course they don't know Taliban jumped in only from Kandhar when Hekmatyar (whom ISI/CIA were supporting) failed to take Kabul despite rocketing it for months. That Waziristan peace agreement of musharraf (when the corp commander, Peshawar embraced Abdullah Mehsud) was reviled by the Americans and Bush had made his displeasure clear. That the peace agreement fell apart only due to Lal Masjid. And that Swat and Lal Masjid's demands are one and the same.
They also have never heard of something called 'Nizam-e-Adal' ordinance which has been accepted to be revived in Swat i.e. Fazlullah's demand has been accepted.
Sure, all of the above are 'intelligence operations'.
#4 Posted by nasah on December 7, 2007 5:15:00 pm
"For a long time, I, like many children around me, used to think that God created horse for riding, dog for loyalty, chicken for eggs, goat for meat ....and Pakistan army for conquering West Pakistanis and losing East Pakistanis to -- Indians.
#3 Posted by masadi on December 7, 2007 4:50:57 pm
A quick and cheap excuse by those who cannot deal with the facts of the matter by using the label "conspiracy". There is nothing conspiratorial about institutional precident. When global institutions have been working on a set pattern for a while the relationships they give rise to become quite obvious. So if peons of the West, as generals of the Pakistan Army are used as disposable goods, and got rid of when they try to become too independant, there is no "conspiracy" involved in expecting a similar fate for Musharraf as was the case with Zia. Of course when the relationship changes, and the general chooses to become powerless by giving up the uniform, then the similarity ends and the power of prediction ceases, then institutional precident would decree that after a while he will become as powerless as other civilian leaders and so he will...That Musharraf fell out of favor with the Americans after his botched Middle East tour in February this year is a fact and his troubles started thereafter in quite an organized manner. Those who have studied the history of such opposition in the Third World can see American fingerprints on it. However, Musharraf the dictator is no Third World revoutionary out to battle the West, his opposition and confrontation is of a personal nature, as was Zia's confrontation before he was cleared from the equation. What I am interested in is not the manufactured nature of the CJ crisis, manufactured as I have been saying ever since it started, by the Pak Army under guidance from the US, but my interest is in the dynamic that such crisis set in motion, i.e. the very real lawyers movement and the spirit that is beginning to emerge in the students. These are unintended consequences of American adjustments, and they are positive in countering both the imperialists and their peons in our country...As for those shouting conspiracy, ignorant fools that don't have a clue about anything, cannot make connections nor decipher a pattern in social relations,sloganeering is the best they can muster.
#2 Posted by blithe on December 7, 2007 4:38:03 pm
Pathetic of Musharraf to prop up the Saudis to try to "persuade" C. J. Chaudhry out of Pakistan...
Glad that C. J. Chaudhry showed back-bone and told H. E. Ali S. Awwad Al Asseri: "No Thank You!"
Glad that C. J. Chaudhry showed back-bone and told H. E. Ali S. Awwad Al Asseri: "No Thank You!"
#1 Posted by laddu on December 7, 2007 4:15:45 pm
Conspiracy theory is well entrenched in Islam.
So every Pakistani holds an attitude that is in conformity wit h this "Islamic principle".
So every Pakistani holds an attitude that is in conformity wit h this "Islamic principle".
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