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The Good Monster: Musharraf's Cultural Legacy

Nadeem F Paracha December 8, 2007

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#37 Posted by tahmed32 on December 12, 2007 7:16:02 pm
masadi: NOW i flagged your post so chowk staff, after I stopped reading when you started abusing me.

As for being a "miserable, spineless, fool" - it is you who is always miserable and abusing people on chowk, not me. it is you who abuses people like a coward on the internet, not me. as for being a fool - i plead guilty to that, for wasting my time trying to reason (per my post below) with a proven basket case like you.

Last post to you on this board.
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#36 Posted by masadi on December 12, 2007 7:14:21 pm
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#35 Posted by masadi on December 12, 2007 7:07:55 pm
And yes, I am going all the way to the top, even though miserable fools like you detest it. I will not settle for what the US elite hands out to our people and I will not settle for the hierarchy they have forced on the world...all the way to the top, that is where I am headed, regardless of your detestation of those that don't submit to your "gods"...
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#34 Posted by masadi on December 12, 2007 7:05:24 pm
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#33 Posted by tahmed32 on December 12, 2007 6:50:14 pm
#31 masadi: so you are "going all the way to the top". this makes you no better than musharraf. At a time when thousands of brave Pakistanis are rising above themselves to save their nation from dictatorship - you can only talk about how great you and your ideas (what are they? that everyone is a fool except you??) are!!

try to learn from these thousands of Pakistanis - and understand that this is a time to think about Pakistan. Not about yourself.

and no - it wssnt me who flagged your post below. when i flagged your post last time, i told you about it.
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#32 Posted by laddu on December 12, 2007 6:15:51 pm
Musharaff is the prototypical PAkistani contradiction - he loves hindu pagans , yet would like to be a kafir hater momeen....he would attack indians in kargil.......and see the futility of the kafir hatred the next day....
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#31 Posted by masadi on December 12, 2007 4:11:12 pm
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#30 Posted by tahmed32 on December 12, 2007 4:09:42 pm
masadi: bhai aap kaan or naaq say har waqt dhoonaN kyoon nikalta rahta hai? you'll give yourself a heart attack - that is all you'll do with your constant anger.
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#29 Posted by masadi on December 12, 2007 4:05:57 pm
in #28 read "as present that as if" as "and present that as if "
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#28 Posted by masadi on December 12, 2007 4:04:47 pm
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#27 Posted by tahmed32 on December 12, 2007 3:55:30 pm
anil: a leader inspires others. musharraf inspires only contempt with his self-aggrandisement, constant lies, and irresponsible behavior.


as for the rest of what you write - how do you know an elected leader would not have done better? zia had the US dancing to his tune e.g. - contemptuously rejecting amounts offered by the US government as "peanuts" and getting much better terms in the afghan-soviet war. does that make zia a "leader"? i dont think so!!
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#26 Posted by masadi on December 12, 2007 3:19:11 pm
The miserable chowk staff had banned me again, they think that by censoring me they can make their own BS more credible, they are sadly mistaken.

Now, regarding this retard Paracha who is comparing ZAB with the sob Musharraf, a people's prime minister with a tin pot dictator, we should certainly be outraged. But outrage can be shown against people who have half a brain and this dimwit, whose "liberalism" goes just as far as sex and rock and roll knows next to nothing about culture and legacy. Musharraf's legacy is the same as that of the Zia ul Fcuk. Both are submitting to the cultural demands of the US elite as they submit to them. Zia's era required the Jihadis to be seen as freedom fighters therefore the entire culture had to be molded to achieve that end, now fighting the "war on terror", they are to be seen as backward barbarians and so we see fake claims of enlightenment and "freeing" the media as if people talking their mind is some kind of privilage that only Musharraf and Chowk Staff can allow and disallow (and we found how fake it was recently when all segments of Pakistani society were treated as dogs and pigs by this son of a swine who parades around as an 'enlightened moderate'. Those who support this sob, Musharraf (who is now quite powerless compared to the past) are themselves dogs and pigs.....
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#25 Posted by masadi on December 12, 2007 3:12:49 pm
testing...
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#24 Posted by anil on December 12, 2007 12:31:28 pm
Re: # 23

Thinking Storm maulana sahib:

Aap tou lagta Thinking Storm nahin, Thinking Hurricane hain. Paun zameen par hi rahne dijiye. Aage apki marzi. Mushkil ho gayegi bahut, agar apka rumor wala Thinking Hurricane shuru hogaya.
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#23 Posted by Thinking_Storm on December 12, 2007 11:30:30 am
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Anil, good to hear a voice of reason in all this madness.

I have already alerted people to the grassroots movement in Pakistan to have Musharraf become prez for life. Please see the following article on AllVoices.com that confirms this.

http://www.allvoices.com/rumors/28277

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#22 Posted by anil on December 12, 2007 11:23:30 am
Re: # 20

Romair:

Musharraff has done more than get competent experts. He has dealth with the U.S. much better than any other Pakistani leader of the past (Jinnah not included). He struck a balance in Islamic traditions and empowering women. Neither war on terror, nor pressures from the U.S. and the west crushed Pakistan. He bore the brunt. For example, the U.S. would want A. Q. Khan, which would have been disastrous internally. He took the pressure. Like it or not, he also help change Pakistani mindset away from Kashmiri issue. Although, neither he, nor Shaukat Aziz could deliver MFN to boost trade and commerce.

I would give him A as a leader.
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