Tahir Qazi December 15, 2007
#130 Posted by majumdar on December 23, 2007 9:57:12 pm
Tahmed sahib,
The reason that there are no hamidms or nasahs among Hanuds is simple, there is no need to. Since anyways most Hanuds dont take Hanudism seriously there is no need to debunk it either.
(there is no arjun, now chowkkid as he shamelessly clings to chowk)
Why should arjun mian not be allowed to post on chowk? There are people on chowk who have openly been calling for genocide (of inconvenient ethnic groups) and murder of other interactors. Arjun mian is merely reporting what is going on. If the first group is allowed to go unpunished why single out Arjun mian (or masadi sahib)?
Regards
The reason that there are no hamidms or nasahs among Hanuds is simple, there is no need to. Since anyways most Hanuds dont take Hanudism seriously there is no need to debunk it either.
(there is no arjun, now chowkkid as he shamelessly clings to chowk)
Why should arjun mian not be allowed to post on chowk? There are people on chowk who have openly been calling for genocide (of inconvenient ethnic groups) and murder of other interactors. Arjun mian is merely reporting what is going on. If the first group is allowed to go unpunished why single out Arjun mian (or masadi sahib)?
Regards
#129 Posted by cid1 on December 23, 2007 8:10:50 am
#127 Posted by tahmed32 on December 23, 2007 7:54:56 am
prophetboy: nobody outside your self-deluded world sees it that way...the BJP is considered much like the GOP..I can understand your need to clutch at straws seeing as how it's clear to everyone but self-deluded pakis that india and pureland aren't considered by the world to be in the same league...
of course, you, being the cleopatra you are, can rule the kingdom of denial..
for "liberal/moderate" muslims, flying planes into buildings, blowing up embassies, blowing up subways and tourist resorts is just something you'd like us to forget..
prophetboy: nobody outside your self-deluded world sees it that way...the BJP is considered much like the GOP..I can understand your need to clutch at straws seeing as how it's clear to everyone but self-deluded pakis that india and pureland aren't considered by the world to be in the same league...
of course, you, being the cleopatra you are, can rule the kingdom of denial..
for "liberal/moderate" muslims, flying planes into buildings, blowing up embassies, blowing up subways and tourist resorts is just something you'd like us to forget..
#128 Posted by khurram on December 23, 2007 7:59:13 am
Re: dost_mittar #119,
"I am asking liberal Muslims to do the same that liberal Hindus do...."
Please don't try to convert us.
"I am asking liberal Muslims to do the same that liberal Hindus do...."
Please don't try to convert us.
#127 Posted by tahmed32 on December 23, 2007 7:54:56 am
dostmittar: i dont think you can compare the BJP-ites of India (the second largest party in India with a following of hundreds of millions) to even the lunatic fringe of the extreme right wing of the christian fundamentalists (a tiny fraction of the US population) - the latter dont elect known known communal killers as state governors (like Modi) and brave destroyers of other people's places of worship like Advani as national leaders.
I have full respect for the other half of India - of whom leaders like Nehru and Gandhi, although vilified by the BJPites, are the true builders of Indian democracy.
I have full respect for the other half of India - of whom leaders like Nehru and Gandhi, although vilified by the BJPites, are the true builders of Indian democracy.
#126 Posted by tahmed32 on December 23, 2007 7:44:59 am
monkeykid1: truth hurt, did it? the truth being that you clinging shamelessly to chowk, registering as a nick every time chowk staff got rid of your arjun series of nicks.
#125 Posted by cid1 on December 23, 2007 6:30:11 am
#123 Posted by dost_mittar on December 23, 2007 4:36:38 am
You're wasting your time..the real liberal and moderate pakis, both of them, aren't in denial...they acknowledge the reality..
prophetboy, otoh...I could post a million articles about how the paki government arms, funds, trains and uses islamic terrorists for it's own policy goals and prophetboy would accuse me of being a "hater"..yup..the facts hate the pakis..unless you are willing to give pakiland and pakis a pass on their continuing support to islamic terrorism, you're a hater..
You're wasting your time..the real liberal and moderate pakis, both of them, aren't in denial...they acknowledge the reality..
prophetboy, otoh...I could post a million articles about how the paki government arms, funds, trains and uses islamic terrorists for it's own policy goals and prophetboy would accuse me of being a "hater"..yup..the facts hate the pakis..unless you are willing to give pakiland and pakis a pass on their continuing support to islamic terrorism, you're a hater..
#124 Posted by cid1 on December 23, 2007 6:17:50 am
Prophetboy:
like I've said a million times before..It it weren't for the islamic terrorism coming out of pureland, pureland would be west bangladesh to most indians and cabdriveristan to most americans..
your whole identity in the world is defined by the islamic terrorism your army and indeed, your people, supported(and still continue to support..
Just as India is associated with IT, Pureland is associated with IT(Islamic terrorism)..
you, otoh, are cleopatra..queen of denial..
like I've said a million times before..It it weren't for the islamic terrorism coming out of pureland, pureland would be west bangladesh to most indians and cabdriveristan to most americans..
your whole identity in the world is defined by the islamic terrorism your army and indeed, your people, supported(and still continue to support..
Just as India is associated with IT, Pureland is associated with IT(Islamic terrorism)..
you, otoh, are cleopatra..queen of denial..
#123 Posted by dost_mittar on December 23, 2007 4:36:38 am
tahmed32:
Almost every Hindu on chowk is like hamidm. They do not give two hoots about Ram, Krishan or the Vedas-Shedas. Two chief Ministers of India have declared that Ram did not exist; how many Hindu chowkies have been provoked? I just made a statement that Muslim liberals should condemn objectionable practices regardless of whether or not they are consistent with their religion, just as liberal hindus condemn casteism, sati and dowry burning without worrying whether or not they are allowed by their religion; that simple, very innocuous statement was twisted by you to mean that I am asking Muslims to join Hindus in condemning their religion. (I had never said that Hindus condemn their religion, only that the liberals among them condemn some abominable practices associated with the Hindu society)
As far Hindu chowkies being obsessed with Islam, you are only half right, the whole bloody world is obsessed with Islam, and not because it is expanding most rapidly in the world. You pick on Hindus only because this is chowk, if you were listening to any of the radio programs in the US and Canada, you will find that most of the arjunms there are Christians and jews.
Almost every Hindu on chowk is like hamidm. They do not give two hoots about Ram, Krishan or the Vedas-Shedas. Two chief Ministers of India have declared that Ram did not exist; how many Hindu chowkies have been provoked? I just made a statement that Muslim liberals should condemn objectionable practices regardless of whether or not they are consistent with their religion, just as liberal hindus condemn casteism, sati and dowry burning without worrying whether or not they are allowed by their religion; that simple, very innocuous statement was twisted by you to mean that I am asking Muslims to join Hindus in condemning their religion. (I had never said that Hindus condemn their religion, only that the liberals among them condemn some abominable practices associated with the Hindu society)
As far Hindu chowkies being obsessed with Islam, you are only half right, the whole bloody world is obsessed with Islam, and not because it is expanding most rapidly in the world. You pick on Hindus only because this is chowk, if you were listening to any of the radio programs in the US and Canada, you will find that most of the arjunms there are Christians and jews.
#122 Posted by tahmed32 on December 22, 2007 5:56:38 am
majumdar #117 i think sir that virtually every other post by indians is about religion (trying to convince that islam is best described by the actions of criminals). there is no arjun (now chowkkid as he shamelessly clings to chowk the way musharraf shamelessly clings to power) among pakistanis. I rest my case. :-)
#121 Posted by tahmed32 on December 22, 2007 5:54:00 am
#119 dost mittar: show me one hamidm among indians, or one nasah among hindus. i rest my case. :-)
#120 Posted by cid1 on December 22, 2007 3:38:15 am
#119 Posted by dost_mittar on December 22, 2007 2:02:10 am
condemn objectional Muslim practices
prophetboy will do one of two things
1. say the said practices aren't islamic(despite being practised by muslims) and label you an anti-islamic bigot
2. label you an anti-islamic bigot
don't you realize that a liberal muslim is different fro ma liberal hindu or liberal christian...a liberal muslim is a terrorist who's too drunk to know where he kept his suicide bomb detonator..
condemn objectional Muslim practices
prophetboy will do one of two things
1. say the said practices aren't islamic(despite being practised by muslims) and label you an anti-islamic bigot
2. label you an anti-islamic bigot
don't you realize that a liberal muslim is different fro ma liberal hindu or liberal christian...a liberal muslim is a terrorist who's too drunk to know where he kept his suicide bomb detonator..
#119 Posted by dost_mittar on December 22, 2007 2:02:10 am
tamed32:
Plese read my statement once again. I am asking liberal Muslims to do the same that liberal Hindus do, namely, condemn objectional Muslim practices (which you do, btw) without qualification that they are against Islam.
Plese read my statement once again. I am asking liberal Muslims to do the same that liberal Hindus do, namely, condemn objectional Muslim practices (which you do, btw) without qualification that they are against Islam.
#117 Posted by majumdar on December 21, 2007 4:46:11 am
Tahmed sahib,
Most Injuns on chowk (mercifully) don't give too hoots for any religion, including their own.
Regards
Most Injuns on chowk (mercifully) don't give too hoots for any religion, including their own.
Regards
#116 Posted by tahmed32 on December 21, 2007 4:17:40 am
arjun: Sorry to disappoint you, but that statement was merely to goad Dost Mittar into action.
#115 Posted by tahmed32 on December 21, 2007 4:14:29 am
harish_hyd #113: That is what we are all here on chowk for, I guess. Rhetoric flourishes!! :-)
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