Islam and Hijab-Murder in Canada

Re: # 19

Gill Sahib:

"...The whole incident is sad and unfortunate...."

Just unfortunate!!!!

A girl's life was cut short by none other than her father.

Why would non-muslims not wonder that the spread is extremely narrow between freethinkers and enslaved thinkers?

Like all 'liberals' (Mr. Qazi must see himself as one) the author cannot be honest. He is clearly assigning a part of the blame for the child's murder to Islam. Then he expects Muslims to listen to him. Or is he even addressing Muslims?

“Tahir insisted the girl was religiously observant but mainly had wanted to be more independent and "to get more out of life," and had asked to move in with the Tahirs in the same neighbourhood.”

“to get more out of life”
is that a euphemism for sex, drugs and rock ‘n’ roll, I mean at sixteen she should have been into her studies.

a muslim's lament

But why's everbody always pickin' on me?

Cause my fifteen year-old cousin has less acne
But why's everbody always pickin' on me?
Ain't brushed them teeth since 1983
But why's everbody always pickin' on me?
Cause you got the grooming habits of a chimpanzee
But why's everbody always pickin' on me?
Cause you run like a girl and sit down to pee
But why's everbody always pickin' on me?
Cause your only school chum was the lunch lady
But why's everbody always pickin' on me?
Cause no one likes you monkey boy.

Just look at the title of this article:

Islam and Hijab-Murder in Canada

So it was the hijab and it was Islam responsible. Open and shut case. Even before the facts are known.

This is what makes my belief even firmer that without guillotine parks, these munafiques like this writer cannot be dealt with who are bigger enemies of Muslims than the neocons in Washington.

Re: # 12 Posted by zeemax on December 16, 2007 7:22:32 am

This article is about a muslim father killing his 16 year old girl.

[If he did, It was cultural family pride which happens in all primitive mindsets, and nothing to do with Islam.]

It had everything to do with this person's upbringing as a muslim in some dilapidated culture of Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Do you know where in Pakistan is he from?

All Tahir did was to make me furious with his mypopic thinking, so I let loose on him a barrage of anger.

Now let me iterate my position.

Nobody deserves to be killed (not even serial killers), let alone a innocent girl of 16.

A lot of people have mentioned that she may or may not have been wayward...even if she was sleeping around with guys (not proven), how could that possibly make it okay to kill her. If people are this "conservative" they should not move to kafir lands.

This is a clash of values and power. The father wants the daughter to follow values that she cannot, and then he wants to have the power over her to force her to do as he dictates. In western countries, he has no such power (rightfully so, in my opinion). So HE REBELLS. He rebels and takes the power in his own hands and kills her.

The same has happened for Sikh families too.

It is better not to have the knee jerk reaction to this. This is not a law you can pass to fix it. It requires social understanding and then acting out properly. Furthermore, just as you can never stop people from murdering others (gasp... even in Canada), there will always be muslims that kill thier children!

Re: # 24

Dear high n mighty one, do tell us minnows why would a father murder his sixteen year old sibling? If it was not the hijab then was it the SIXTEEN year demand for freedom? Iam sure u can relate given u too have a daughter the same age maybe.

Re: # 25
since we are discussing honour crimes not terrorism so stick to topic.

#23 Posted by aslam644 on December 16, 2007 9:07:39 am


It’s not only muslims Sikhs are just as bad in the UK


sikhs are blowing up trains and making plans to blow up airlines and making plans to kill people by poisoning their beer?

Idiot hindoos and misc munafiqs, read this:

(http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/story.html?id=4b0875ae-dada-4e47 -8cd7-10d8e62aa614&k=93596)

Edmonton Journal

Aqsa parvez mourned

Slain teen wanted 'to get more out of life,' friends say
Craig Offman, CanWest News Service; with Agence France-Presse files
Published: 7:51 am

MISSISSAUGA, Ont. - Her refusal to wear a hijab may not have been a factor in the death of a Muslim Toronto teen last week, friends of her family said Saturday.

The circumstances behind the death of Asqa Parvez remain murky. Her father, Muhammad, has been charged with murder but has not yet entered a plea.

Some classmates have said the girl's insistence on not wearing the hijab led to intense family squabbles, but another friend told CanWest News Service Saturday the traditional Islamic clothing was not a major factor and that other girls in the family did not wear the hijab.

Lubna Tahir, at whose house 16-year-old Aqsa Parvez was staying after leaving her own home in Toronto's Mississauga suburb, branded as "rumours" news stories that Parvez's father allegedly killed her for not wearing the Muslim headscarf.

Tahir insisted the girl was religiously observant but mainly had wanted to be more independent and "to get more out of life," and had asked to move in with the Tahirs in the same neighbourhood.

"She was satisfied, she was relaxed that somehow her parents understood that this is what she wanted to do, and they didn't push her to come home," Tahir told CanWest News Service.

Pakistan-native cab driver Muhammad Parvez, 57, was arrested at his home Monday where Aqsa was found near death, by emergency workers.

On Saturday swollen-eyed mourners came to a Toronto-area mosque to pay their respects but at the last minute the public funeral was made private.

Held at the Islamic Society of North America headquarters, the funeral drew classmates, members of the Islamic community and media, all of whom were bewildered by the sudden switch.

"I don't understand why they didn't just tell us it was private," said one girl who knew Asqa from school. "I just wanted to come to say goodbye to her, and now I don't know where her body is."

As it turned out, rites already had been performed earlier Saturday morning at an undisclosed location.

One person close to the family said there was concern about a big turnout and at the last minute it was decided to change the venue to maintain privacy.

Re: # 22
It’s not only muslims Sikhs are just as bad in the UK

They all seem to be from jalandhar is that the hill billy part of panjab, if it is then that might explain it

Islam didn't do it

Islam is always off the hook isn't it..

9/11: It has nothing to do with islam

London subway bombings: It has nothing to do with islam

bali bombings: It has nothing to do with islam

bombings in iraq: It has nothing to do with islam

bombings in israel: It has nothing to do with islam

bombing in pureland: It has nothing to do with islam

theo van ghogh: It has nothing to do with islam

rushdie riots: It has nothing to do with islam

danish cartoons: It has nothing to do with islam

killed for not wearing a hijab: It has nothing to do with islam

sorry islamofascists..the world isn't buying it..maybe the koran, allah, mo or his camel didn't tell you to do stuff..yet it's muslims who're doing it and for islam..

It's muslims, stupid..

#12 Posted by zeemax on December 16, 2007 7:22:32 am


She ran away from home and her father (allegedly, yet to be proven) killed her for that


She ran away? where did you read that? on the PIOMPA website.

Read this article appeared in Canadian Broadcasting Coro. (CBC) which is the national Radio and TV system. Read -some of you idiots and bigots- the article. Here its is!

Who will speak for Aqsa Parvez?
By Natasha Fatah
Dec. 14, 2007
RE: www.cbc.ca Dec 14, 2007
By Natasha Fatah is a producer for CBC Radio's Current Affairs Show "As It Happens." Prior to that, she was a television and radio reporter in Windsor, Ontario. She has degrees in Journalism from Ryerson University and in Political Science from the University of Toronto. She has lectured on anti-racism, politics and media studies at elementary and secondary schools around the Greater Toronto Area. In 1996, she was the host of 'News from the Muslim World' on Vision TV.
------------------- Article starts here-------------------
Sixteen-year-old Aqsa Parvez did not want to wear the hijab.

The Middle Eastern head covering has become the most significant icon for Islam in the West, which is unfortunate, since 90 per cent of Muslim women in this country don't wear one. By extension, they get dismissed as not being authentic Muslims.

The CBC's own Little Mosque on the Prairie plays into this stereotype by showing every prominent Muslim woman in a hijab. This superficial measurement of Muslim-ness has become so prevalent that a small but increasing number of families are pushing it on their daughters.
Aqsa, a Pakistani-Canadian, was just one of the victims of this growing obsession. Now that Aqsa is dead, who will speak for her? Who will speak for the countless Muslim girls who lead double lives and who suffer in silence in their homes? Who will make sure they aren't abused or killed?

Who chooses?

Most Islamist men and women say that a woman chooses to wear the hijab. But, all too often, that choice is taken away from young Muslim girls.

They are being told by their parents and their imams that if they don't wear the hijab, they are no longer Muslim. This occurs even though the Koran, Islam's holy book, does not say that a woman has to cover her hair.

Take a walk in downtown Toronto, Montreal, Windsor or other cities with large Muslim populations. You will see little girls, as young as four, five and six, wearing hijabs on their way to school.

Did these little girls really make a choice to wear the hijab? Did they make a declaration to their parents that they want to be religiously pious and sexually modest? Common sense indicates that these children did not choose for themselves.

The innuendo

Meanwhile, the mullahs and Islamists are busy dismissing the idea that Aqsa's alleged murder had anything to do with religion. They are circulating rumours on-line that she had a black boyfriend, that she was sexually promiscuous, that she was a drug pusher. These are cited as reasons why her family was strict with her.

Why are they so afraid of acknowledging that obsession with a religious ritual may have been a factor? It is because they fear their own culpability in this horrible tragedy.

Before their congregations, these religious leaders tell men to control their daughters, wives and sisters. They have brought into Canadian homes the radical Islamist notion that a man's honour is encompassed in the sexual and physical body of the women in his family, that's why they must be covered up and kept inside.

Muslim fundamentalists have made a woman's body the fighting ground for their religious wars, and it is unfortunately women who pay with their lives for the sake of their men's honour.
A wall of silence

Women's advocacy groups have played mute on the issue. When Canadian feminists are asked for their reaction to Aqsa's murder, they decline to respond and instead suggest that it would more appropriate to turn to Muslim women's groups for reaction.

Advocates are willing to speak up for all other women in Canada, from women who need cancer treatment because of radioisotope shortages to the dozens of prostitutes murdered in British Columbia, but they will not speak for Aqsa.

Even social pundits and critics are making excuses. They say that this isn't something unique to the Muslim community. They bring up examples of honour killings in Christian, Sikh and Hindu families.

Just because there are religious fanatics in every group doesn't take away the need to investigate what is happening to young Muslim women. So far, the only ones who have spoken honestly are the young girls that attend Applewood Heights Secondary School in Mississauga.

The friends and classmates of Aqsa, who aren't concerned with political correctness, have said without hesitation that Aqsa was abused and threatened at home because of the religious fanaticism of her family. They have said she was killed because she wanted to be herself.

The rest of Canadian society could take a hint from these girls. We hesitate to condemn this behaviour because we don't want to be seen as racist. Are we going to allow cultural relativism to be the scapegoat for abuse and murder in this country?

This is not the time for discussions about cultural nuances and lowered expectations for ethnic and religious minority groups. This is the time to speak up, and say enough is enough to the religious fanatics in Canada.

If a vacuum of silence is left by the moderate people in Canada, who are the overwhelmingly majority, then that vacuum will be filled by the religious extremists on one side, who will make excuses for these actions; and by intolerant racists on the other, who will say religious minorities are poisoning this country.

Canadians, Muslim and non-Muslim, must say that while this country's greatest pride is its diversity, multiculturalism and acceptance, there are certain beliefs and laws that are inherently Canadian and that must be respected.

We have to say loudly that a woman is free to cover her body as she chooses. She is free to wear her hair how she likes. That at least in this country, she is free, no matter how you interpret your religion.
END

Mr. Qazi's article lacked clarity. Readers like me who were not aware of this incident were left high and dry. I had to google to get the facts of this tragic incident.

The ill-fated Aqsa Parvez was 16 year old and liked to wear fashionable clothes like many other normal girls of her age and environment. Her cab-driving father is a stern conventionalist and wanted her daughter to wear hijab. She would leave her home in hijab but took it off once she was outside and away from her home. She wanted to do away with hijab completely.

It is difficult for many kids to grow up in two cultures which are so very different from each other. The parents should show some flexibility and understanding in such situations. The little information that I was able to gather did not show Aqsa to be a wayward girl; for all practical purposes she was a normal kid. Even if she was wayward, that should not give any authority to her father to kill her. Education is the way to heal this kind of slavish attitude.

The whole incident is sad and unfortunate.

Mohammad Gill