Tahir Qazi December 15, 2007
#33 Posted by Eklavya on December 16, 2007 11:30:58 am
Like all 'liberals' (Mr. Qazi must see himself as one) the author cannot be honest. He is clearly assigning a part of the blame for the child's murder to Islam. Then he expects Muslims to listen to him. Or is he even addressing Muslims?
#34 Posted by anil on December 16, 2007 11:46:49 am
Re: # 19
Gill Sahib:
"...The whole incident is sad and unfortunate...."
Just unfortunate!!!!
A girl's life was cut short by none other than her father.
Why would non-muslims not wonder that the spread is extremely narrow between freethinkers and enslaved thinkers?
Gill Sahib:
"...The whole incident is sad and unfortunate...."
Just unfortunate!!!!
A girl's life was cut short by none other than her father.
Why would non-muslims not wonder that the spread is extremely narrow between freethinkers and enslaved thinkers?
#35 Posted by anil on December 16, 2007 11:53:40 am
Re: # 16
Zeemax Sahib:
"...because she wanted to be with her canadian boyfriends..."
Is this crime enough to be killed ? I would like to hear your opinion.
Zeemax Sahib:
"...because she wanted to be with her canadian boyfriends..."
Is this crime enough to be killed ? I would like to hear your opinion.
#36 Posted by arjun8 on December 16, 2007 12:06:04 pm
32 Posted by aslam644 on December 16, 2007 11:00:05 am
is that a euphemism for sex, drugs and rock ‘n’ roll, I mean at sixteen she should have been into her studies.
yeah pal..either you wear a burkha and never be seen with a na mehram or it's sex drugs and rock'n'roll
regardless, now that she's 6 ftt under, she should have plenty of time to hit the books...hope they buried the books with her..
is that a euphemism for sex, drugs and rock ‘n’ roll, I mean at sixteen she should have been into her studies.
yeah pal..either you wear a burkha and never be seen with a na mehram or it's sex drugs and rock'n'roll
regardless, now that she's 6 ftt under, she should have plenty of time to hit the books...hope they buried the books with her..
#37 Posted by arjun8 on December 16, 2007 12:07:01 pm
#30 Posted by zeemax on December 16, 2007 10:56:28 am
This is what makes my belief even firmer that without guillotine parks
What about people like you who consume alcohol..a no no per mo and his camel..
This is what makes my belief even firmer that without guillotine parks
What about people like you who consume alcohol..a no no per mo and his camel..
#39 Posted by arjun8 on December 16, 2007 12:44:07 pm
#26 Posted by aslam644 on December 16, 2007 9:24:32 am
since we are discussing honour crimes not terrorism so stick to topic.
It's the same topic..muslims doing things, like terrorism and the hijab killing, thinking they are in line with islam..followed by muslims telling us the things that were done are not in accordance with islam..lather rinse repeat..
since we are discussing honour crimes not terrorism so stick to topic.
It's the same topic..muslims doing things, like terrorism and the hijab killing, thinking they are in line with islam..followed by muslims telling us the things that were done are not in accordance with islam..lather rinse repeat..
#40 Posted by ahmedmadani on December 16, 2007 3:42:51 pm
The article starts nicely, "muslims wake up".
The problem if people are asleep calling for wake up will serve purpose. But people who are awake but pretend to be sleeping nothing can be done.
Which father has no problems with daughters ?
I do not know any honestly.Now all women( men) do things which their mother (father) did not do. Same way their mothers did that grandmother did not do.It is good to concede by fathers about this matters for who we are to dictate terms which they can defy easily. May be hopefully they know about protections. Its slow but creeping sexual liberation sweeping islamic world and aided by ponography and books. Sex liberation or recration has diminished societies like Scandination nations. I have never heard those people becoming refugees to islamic lands. People at heart know what is advanced society and better as one can see people vote by legs . Every muslim and Muslima at heart
wants to have great sexual content in their society but just like blind people not ready to have that sexuality in real life and just hate people who have great sex and satisfying life and no need to pinch bottoms of women or look at them and embarras them. The oppressed libido of men in Islamic states to gutter level of constant addiction of ponography and bad treat ment of women.
One way is ( though it can not happen any time) to have Fatawas from Holy places that any body making violence against women will be subjected to chopping of head like KSA. Exceptional creuel parents, men women need exceptional harsh treatment.
Recently I felt extremely sad. A nice fellow who is good muslim militant was drinking and SR has to tell some bad way. This shakes faith of person. Hope SR is lieing about good man.
The problem if people are asleep calling for wake up will serve purpose. But people who are awake but pretend to be sleeping nothing can be done.
Which father has no problems with daughters ?
I do not know any honestly.Now all women( men) do things which their mother (father) did not do. Same way their mothers did that grandmother did not do.It is good to concede by fathers about this matters for who we are to dictate terms which they can defy easily. May be hopefully they know about protections. Its slow but creeping sexual liberation sweeping islamic world and aided by ponography and books. Sex liberation or recration has diminished societies like Scandination nations. I have never heard those people becoming refugees to islamic lands. People at heart know what is advanced society and better as one can see people vote by legs . Every muslim and Muslima at heart
wants to have great sexual content in their society but just like blind people not ready to have that sexuality in real life and just hate people who have great sex and satisfying life and no need to pinch bottoms of women or look at them and embarras them. The oppressed libido of men in Islamic states to gutter level of constant addiction of ponography and bad treat ment of women.
One way is ( though it can not happen any time) to have Fatawas from Holy places that any body making violence against women will be subjected to chopping of head like KSA. Exceptional creuel parents, men women need exceptional harsh treatment.
Recently I felt extremely sad. A nice fellow who is good muslim militant was drinking and SR has to tell some bad way. This shakes faith of person. Hope SR is lieing about good man.
#41 Posted by ahmedmadani on December 16, 2007 3:45:36 pm
when you read such things happening remembers what Munshi Premchand said of woman race. Womans life story breast full of milk and eyes full of tears.
Generally men folks are stupid racists and not very useful so I am generally like women , some times their their all hardship and know appreciation brings tears to eyes.
Generally men folks are stupid racists and not very useful so I am generally like women , some times their their all hardship and know appreciation brings tears to eyes.
#42 Posted by SRK on December 16, 2007 4:09:03 pm
There are many honorable muslim/non-muslim women who doesn't cover their heads. Dads like these need to be put in some sort re-education camp and be taught that there is no honor in murdering ones own child. One real disgusting sick f&@k.
#43 Posted by Ras on December 16, 2007 5:28:05 pm
RE: #20 is Natasha related to Tarek?
The COMPLETE story has to be out on this one before our
rushing to judgement on the Father and the Hijab issue.
For a person of Pakistani origin, I do not remember
anyone wearing a Hijab in Pakistan or Bangladesh when
I was growing up. This is a much more recent phenomenon.
In North America it has become more common for South Asian
Muslim women don the Hijab.
The Father-Daughter relationship in the immigrant community
cannot be described as easy here in the west, but if the
dad killed her in this case it should be treated as the
worst kind of crime.
Let us wait and see what exactly happened.
We cannot change the past but learn from it so that
such a horrible scenario is not repeated again.
Ras
#44 Posted by Kulharee on December 16, 2007 5:50:09 pm
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#45 Posted by ShoreSahib on December 16, 2007 5:51:38 pm
The Hijab cropping up in the US and Pakistan coincides with the rise of Fundamentalism funded by the Saudi money. Most of the mosques in America are funded by Saudi dollars, and preach the extremist wahahi version of Islam.
When I was growing up in Pakistan, I dont remember any of my teachers or relatives wearing hijab. These were good pious women, and a simple dopatta covering part of the head was enough for them. Not this arab contraption called the Hijab.
I remember that my sister used to only wear the Chador when going to the Bazaar and not because of some modesty issue but because she felt the chador gave her protection from lewd men in the bazaar, and that she was less likely to be gawked at or her butt pinched if she was wearing a chador.
If wearing hijab or a burqa made women more pious then the prostitutes of Heera Mandi Lahore must be the most virtuous as they never leave their abodes without being compeltely covered in Burqas.
This is a hate crime, by a male Pakistani Muslim against a female Pakistani Muslim for asserting her independence.
When I was growing up in Pakistan, I dont remember any of my teachers or relatives wearing hijab. These were good pious women, and a simple dopatta covering part of the head was enough for them. Not this arab contraption called the Hijab.
I remember that my sister used to only wear the Chador when going to the Bazaar and not because of some modesty issue but because she felt the chador gave her protection from lewd men in the bazaar, and that she was less likely to be gawked at or her butt pinched if she was wearing a chador.
If wearing hijab or a burqa made women more pious then the prostitutes of Heera Mandi Lahore must be the most virtuous as they never leave their abodes without being compeltely covered in Burqas.
This is a hate crime, by a male Pakistani Muslim against a female Pakistani Muslim for asserting her independence.
#46 Posted by delhiwala on December 16, 2007 5:55:29 pm
Qazi Sahib:
Your name itself suggests that you are someone who has mastered Shariah and the Hijab issue very deeply.
By quoting Kant you are ignoring the grand-dad of human behaviour sciences i.e. Sigmund Freud(Jew) who should come naturally to your mind before Kant. Why did you do that? Is it because you dont believe that Jews are Al-Hilal in Aqal. I am merely curious here.....
Anyways, you do have some good points in your article but sadly speaking Muslims like you are an insignificant minority not capable of making change.
Your point about economics dictating the moral and spritual behaviour are true to some degree. For e.g. Saudi Arabia is a very rich country yet the most backward in it's thinking. It's citizens are living in mental cages.
In my $.02, ecomonics prosperity when combined with freedom of thought is the key to saving the masses for Muslims.
But it's not gonna happen in next 500 years.
Your name itself suggests that you are someone who has mastered Shariah and the Hijab issue very deeply.
By quoting Kant you are ignoring the grand-dad of human behaviour sciences i.e. Sigmund Freud(Jew) who should come naturally to your mind before Kant. Why did you do that? Is it because you dont believe that Jews are Al-Hilal in Aqal. I am merely curious here.....
Anyways, you do have some good points in your article but sadly speaking Muslims like you are an insignificant minority not capable of making change.
Your point about economics dictating the moral and spritual behaviour are true to some degree. For e.g. Saudi Arabia is a very rich country yet the most backward in it's thinking. It's citizens are living in mental cages.
In my $.02, ecomonics prosperity when combined with freedom of thought is the key to saving the masses for Muslims.
But it's not gonna happen in next 500 years.
#47 Posted by Kulharee on December 16, 2007 5:56:27 pm
Re #45 That’s so true Shore Yaar. I have observed the same, except here in New York, I see Arab girls with very tight head covering, almost condom tight, but they also have long skirts, that are fit-hugged, and tight upper wear, with total outline of the body so pronounced. So what difference does covering one’s head mean? I don’t think that these Arab girls will be welcomed in a place like Pakistan in those tight jeans or long tight skirts.
#48 Posted by arjun8 on December 16, 2007 6:06:44 pm
#43 Posted by Ras on December 16, 2007 5:28:05 pm
I do not remember
anyone wearing a Hijab in Pakistan or Bangladesh when
I was growing up.
Since we've all been told islam has nothing to do with anything, maybe it's global warning that's responsible for the growth in hijab uptake?
I do not remember
anyone wearing a Hijab in Pakistan or Bangladesh when
I was growing up.
Since we've all been told islam has nothing to do with anything, maybe it's global warning that's responsible for the growth in hijab uptake?
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