Tahir Qazi December 15, 2007
#97 Posted by laddu on December 20, 2007 2:06:12 am
Re: # 95
"laddu, it IS a great system. Please open your eyes..."
Yes Yes.....even Nazism IS a great system. Stalinism was even greatest. Perhaps the greatest system was Spinoza's.
If your eyes are 'open' then perhaps you need to recite the kalima..otherwise if you are a hindu then can you negate the kalima on this board??
"laddu, it IS a great system. Please open your eyes..."
Yes Yes.....even Nazism IS a great system. Stalinism was even greatest. Perhaps the greatest system was Spinoza's.
If your eyes are 'open' then perhaps you need to recite the kalima..otherwise if you are a hindu then can you negate the kalima on this board??
#98 Posted by smellthecoffee on December 20, 2007 2:26:22 am
#97 Posted by laddu,
Laddu Mian, there's no such thing as a 'Hindu'.
It is all mythological nonsense of 'take your pick' out of monkeys and rats and elephant nosed eunuchs and six-armed goddesses with tongues sticking out.
Laddu Mian, there's no such thing as a 'Hindu'.
It is all mythological nonsense of 'take your pick' out of monkeys and rats and elephant nosed eunuchs and six-armed goddesses with tongues sticking out.
#99 Posted by laddu on December 20, 2007 2:32:00 am
Re: # 98
There is great wisdom in aesop's fables.......there is great wisdom in some of the puranic allegories and fables......call them 'myths'...........but so is that other worldly blood thirsty deity called Allah.....his angels with 'wings' ..... those transparent skinned robotic houries............that winged Buraq...... those ghastly looking djinns.....and that Ridwan who guards the Jannah....
the greatest myths are those places called Jannah and Jahannum.......
and ofcourse that tele-kinesis from Allah miyan to that profit is the biggest 'myth' of all!!!
There is great wisdom in aesop's fables.......there is great wisdom in some of the puranic allegories and fables......call them 'myths'...........but so is that other worldly blood thirsty deity called Allah.....his angels with 'wings' ..... those transparent skinned robotic houries............that winged Buraq...... those ghastly looking djinns.....and that Ridwan who guards the Jannah....
the greatest myths are those places called Jannah and Jahannum.......
and ofcourse that tele-kinesis from Allah miyan to that profit is the biggest 'myth' of all!!!
#100 Posted by laddu on December 20, 2007 2:39:26 am
Re: # 98
Typical of momeen propaganda -
Other religion's deities are 'myths' ..
but Islamic deities are 'truths'........
Typical of momeen propaganda -
Other religion's deities are 'myths' ..
but Islamic deities are 'truths'........
#101 Posted by smellthecoffee on December 20, 2007 3:28:45 am
Laddu Mian,
You just said it. Hinduism or whatever you call it is no more than Aesop's fables or Gulliver's' Travels. Take your pick.
That's what I said, didn't I?
You just said it. Hinduism or whatever you call it is no more than Aesop's fables or Gulliver's' Travels. Take your pick.
That's what I said, didn't I?
#102 Posted by laddu on December 20, 2007 4:42:58 am
Re: # 101
Your understanding is typical of momeens......
you did not understand that I called Quranic 'truths' as the greatest of all the myths...........
Your understanding is typical of momeens......
you did not understand that I called Quranic 'truths' as the greatest of all the myths...........
#103 Posted by laddu on December 20, 2007 4:44:00 am
...and you did not understand what I mean by 'wisdom' in aesop's fables..........which is none in Quranic myths....
#104 Posted by baazthefalcon on December 20, 2007 3:05:02 pm
Laddu Mian
And your mythical gods cannot even shoo away flies sitting on the "laddus"....So beta laddu, you better take care of your gods/goddesses "laddus"....
And your mythical gods cannot even shoo away flies sitting on the "laddus"....So beta laddu, you better take care of your gods/goddesses "laddus"....
#105 Posted by laddu on December 20, 2007 4:04:24 pm
Re: # 104
LOL Beta Arbaaz,
Can your Allah shoo away flies without asking help from his followers? ......... may be he give some 'wisdom' or perhaps better 'common-sense' to his followers??......
LOL Beta Arbaaz,
Can your Allah shoo away flies without asking help from his followers? ......... may be he give some 'wisdom' or perhaps better 'common-sense' to his followers??......
#106 Posted by dost_mittar on December 20, 2007 9:09:55 pm
Eklavya:
Are you my old friend or a newcomer with the same nick?
Re. sati, I think that our liberal Muslim friends can take a lesson from Hindus in at least this respect, that we condemned sati and other noxious practices while disregarding whether or not it is permitted by our religion. On the other hand, our liberal Muslims are too concerned about protecting pristine (aka fundamental) Islam to condemn anything without qualifying that it is not in keeping with the teachings of the quran and the prophet. In doing this, they turn the quran and the prophet from inspirational sources into an iron chain that they have bound themselves with.
Are you my old friend or a newcomer with the same nick?
Re. sati, I think that our liberal Muslim friends can take a lesson from Hindus in at least this respect, that we condemned sati and other noxious practices while disregarding whether or not it is permitted by our religion. On the other hand, our liberal Muslims are too concerned about protecting pristine (aka fundamental) Islam to condemn anything without qualifying that it is not in keeping with the teachings of the quran and the prophet. In doing this, they turn the quran and the prophet from inspirational sources into an iron chain that they have bound themselves with.
#107 Posted by smellthecoffee on December 20, 2007 9:13:14 pm
Laddu Mian,
The diff is that we don't actually 'worship' the allegorical references 'in their own right' like monkeys and rats and elephant nosed eunuchs and six-armed goddesses with tongues sticking out .... as you do ... nor any winged horses or djinns or guards of Jannah. We merely use the latter as graphical illustrations of a reference point in a central thesis, while you worship all the characters of Alice in Wonderland, Aesop's fables, Gulliver's Travels etc all at the same time or one by one or different for different times or one over the other and so forth. Whatever catches your fancy or whatever scares you more or entices you more.
How stupid!
The diff is that we don't actually 'worship' the allegorical references 'in their own right' like monkeys and rats and elephant nosed eunuchs and six-armed goddesses with tongues sticking out .... as you do ... nor any winged horses or djinns or guards of Jannah. We merely use the latter as graphical illustrations of a reference point in a central thesis, while you worship all the characters of Alice in Wonderland, Aesop's fables, Gulliver's Travels etc all at the same time or one by one or different for different times or one over the other and so forth. Whatever catches your fancy or whatever scares you more or entices you more.
How stupid!
#108 Posted by laddu on December 21, 2007 1:13:25 am
Re: # 107
Hey, you really need to smell the coffee..the Quranic allah is the most mythical of all the concepts it acts like an alter ego of the maniac who conceived him.....our symbols are indeed allegoric and we worship the actual deities referred by those symbols and not the symbols perse as Islam propagandizes. To consider idols = gods shows the level of Islamic intelligence. And tell me, which scholar would consider Allah and the description of him as merely allegoric? The biggest inconsistent and mythical character is the Allah and muslims need to come out of this myth!!
Hey, you really need to smell the coffee..the Quranic allah is the most mythical of all the concepts it acts like an alter ego of the maniac who conceived him.....our symbols are indeed allegoric and we worship the actual deities referred by those symbols and not the symbols perse as Islam propagandizes. To consider idols = gods shows the level of Islamic intelligence. And tell me, which scholar would consider Allah and the description of him as merely allegoric? The biggest inconsistent and mythical character is the Allah and muslims need to come out of this myth!!
#109 Posted by harish_hyd on December 21, 2007 1:36:12 am
#104 by baazthefalcon
And your mythical gods cannot even shoo away flies sitting on the "laddus"....So beta laddu, you better take care of your gods/goddesses "laddus"....
Don't really mean to hurt anyone, but just can't resist this comment. Allah's followers are being swatted like flies on a Laddu across the world - even the godless commies in China are perched comfortably on top of the Uighur Muslims' heads, yet Allah doesn't so much as twitch. What gives?
And your mythical gods cannot even shoo away flies sitting on the "laddus"....So beta laddu, you better take care of your gods/goddesses "laddus"....
Don't really mean to hurt anyone, but just can't resist this comment. Allah's followers are being swatted like flies on a Laddu across the world - even the godless commies in China are perched comfortably on top of the Uighur Muslims' heads, yet Allah doesn't so much as twitch. What gives?
#110 Posted by tahmed32 on December 21, 2007 2:24:28 am
#109 those are not "Allah's followers" being swatted by civilized society around the world. those are idolators who think they are muslims but actually simply worship laddus of a different kind.
#111 Posted by VRV on December 21, 2007 2:58:34 am
our liberal Muslims are too concerned about protecting pristine (aka fundamental) Islam to condemn anything without qualifying that it is not in keeping with the teachings of the quran and the prophet. In doing this, they turn the quran and the prophet from inspirational sources into an iron chain that they have bound themselves with.
DOST MITRjee,
Wah wah!
DOST MITRjee,
Wah wah!
#112 Posted by tahmed32 on December 21, 2007 3:31:38 am
vrv/dm: if a muslim does not join hindus in condemning islam, then he is "bound with an iron chain" to it.
wah! wah! This is the stuff they teach you in India.
You people would be more convincing if you set an example of condemning the religion one ascribes to - hinduism or sikhism. You would be even more convincing if you actually treated religion more objectively. As it stands, even the most enlightened indian on chowk - dost mittar - is no better than a the most unenlightened muslim anywhere - i.e. the village maulvi. Who berates other religions the same way you do.
wah! wah! This is the stuff they teach you in India.
You people would be more convincing if you set an example of condemning the religion one ascribes to - hinduism or sikhism. You would be even more convincing if you actually treated religion more objectively. As it stands, even the most enlightened indian on chowk - dost mittar - is no better than a the most unenlightened muslim anywhere - i.e. the village maulvi. Who berates other religions the same way you do.
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