Interview: Imran Khan on Elections and Boycott

Anil writes : " am convinced you are dyslexic and reading challenge too. Tahmed sahib corrected and said Khan sahib should be active in politics"


Unlike Anil (and I will spare the expletives for now) who has no clue about what he writes. I know exactly what tahmed said. Reproduced under is a quote from him from 2006 that he recently repeated in our political discussions a few months back as well:



"#37 Posted by tahmed32 on December 26, 2006 5:57:10 am
#36 Good summary. I had the chance a few years ago to listen to Iram Khan speak politics and ask questions. I asked him one question: Given his ability to raise funds as demonstrated by the cancer hospital, why not just work outside the government (rather than wasting his time in politics) to start up more schools and hospitals in Pakistan?

His answer: In Pakistan it is very difficult to get anything done unless you had political power.

That didnt strike me as a particularly straight answer. "

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Re: # 32

bulleya,

Pakistan is a federation that has a Parliamentary form of Govt, for people like IK to succeed they need to establish political parties with grass root support. Unfortunately, does not have the political stature, patience, vision or sincerity that basically annuls the personality and makes the part supreme. IK like all other political lotas suffers from the same dictatorial, selfish tendencies thus the Tehreek e Imran rather than the Tehreek e Insaaf.

Ch Aitezaz in my opinion is a far bigger personality than IK , CH Aitezaz has done what no other politician has ever dared to even imagine for one very simple reason, CA was sincere in his cause whereas all of the political leaders have their selfish agendas. Sadly, CA has to work with PPP, that is his vote bank, without PPP, Chaudhry Sahib cannot even think of contesting from anywhere in Pakistan.

As for the feudal, piri mureedi culture that is a fact of life and by the way Chaudhry Aitezaz Hussein does not come from a humble background, his roots are also from a feudal family and his grandfather was reputed to have resisted schooling for the locals in his area. Same can be said for Imran Khan Niazi, literally born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Point being, whether they are rich or poor should not matter, what matters to the voter is their political sincerity, manifesto and credentials.

Same

Urstruly #: ...there is nothing stopping anyone from returning to pakistan.......economically, pakistan is doing better than it has done in thirty five years.......had musharraf not created this judiciary fiasco, i would have started to, slowly, change my rating of pakistan from sell to hold......

....i am spending a lot of time with pakistani companies now.......they are looking for people with experience in usa........uptil the point that pakistan had not gotten into the bombing of waziristan, with the couter explosions in pakistan, pakistanis had actually started returning to pakistan, in quite a large number....pakistanis born in uk were actually coming to pakistan......and at very high salaries......

i believe you are a engineer.......you won't have any problems finding a good well paying job in pakistan......the private sector in pakistan is quite a lucrative place, and is, generally, a nice place to work.....,

on the other hand, if you are not interested in going back to pakistan, there is nothing wrong with that......it's everyone's personal choice.......

however, in such a case, could i request you to hold off on the drama-baazi......it makes all us pakistanis look bad......it is no different than maulana fazl's drama-bazi..

p.s. email your resume to me.....i shouldn't have too much problem hooking your up with the right people.......

Re: # 35

Tahmed sahib:

"....and may Allah give you a flying horse that leaves arjun's flying pig coughing in the dust while hamidm watches in envy while lying flat on his back outside the bar after having had one too many ...."

Too much in one sentence.
Eid mubarak ho, if it is too late, then in advance.

Re: # 29

Massaddi Mian:

"...Hypocrisy thy name is tahmed. Here is a person who was preaching to us as well as to IK that he should stay out of politics and concentrate on his charity work like Eidi, and now he does a turnaround,..."

I am convinced you are dyslexic and reading challenge too. Tahmed sahib corrected and said Khan sahib should be active in politics, in answer to my suggestion for Khan sahib to concentrate on other things than politics.

There are classes available for the dyslexics and reading challenged.

nasah: eid mubarak to you too.

and may Allah give you a flying horse that leaves arjun's flying pig coughing in the dust while hamidm watches in envy while lying flat on his back outside the bar after having had one too many .

#23 hamidm: so what did i say? i said that Imran Khan was part of the solution. not the solution.

Aitezaz Ahsan's son was sharp as a razor when he dealt with Musharraf's three clowns who were sent over to the US to put lipstick on a pig (to borrow from arjun's repertoire of three phrases that he has been using up all these years). So, if the tree is close to the apple that fell from it, I think Aitezaz is one smart cookie too (to mix metaphors). But, again, it is not about one personality only. There are thousands of Aitezaz Ahsan's who are fighting to liberate Pakistan from the Hosni Mubarak-wannabe.

Re: # 10 Urstruly ["...They have made it impossible for people like us to earn rizq-e-halal in Pakistan..."]

What a cop-out and a terribly lame excuse.

There is pleanty of rizk-i-hilal... believe me, I am presently (as of six months ago) living in Pakistan and will perhaps do so for a few more years if not longer (despite the "noise pollution" my neighborhood mosques spew out before dawn every morning), and I didn't even have the same "longings" as you profess to have.

# 10 Urstruly ["... Yes we have money and all that that money can buy but nothing can replace even a spec of dust that flies on the dusty roads in Pakistan..."]

Commone back... rizk-i-hilal is everywhere here, but you seem to be addicted to gluttony, and THAT is what you won't find here, at least not in hilal form.

Re: # 10 Urstruly ["...I am .. forced to live in this cold, bland and godforsaken place..."]

No one is forcing you except your materialist greed and gluttony. If you are THAT miserable, why the hell are you there.

I left America for a lot less. Had no problems with my surroundings and social set-up. In fact I love much about America's people and civil society. Yet we decided to leave there because of certain fundamental principles. And if things revert back to the mean some day we shall return.

You, on the other hand, despite your crocodile tears, continue to fund the Pentagon with your tax dollars and continue to be a passive accomplice to the crimes against humanity that you continue to decry. Your hypocracy is shameful.

# 10 Urstruly ["...Not a day goes by when my eyes are not welled up thinking about the streets and people I grew up with Damn them! Be God's curse upon them! for they stolen my country from me..."]

This is just a lot of dramma. I am ashamed of you. I was not sure about you until today and always gave you the benefit of doubt thinking that you might actually be sincere, but only misguided. But this message has betrayed your true colors. You sir are a dramma baz munafiq ...

...SR

...there are three politicians whose name i have always highlighted as good prospects for the future - imran and aitezaz - both are out of the race.....the third was omer asghar khan, who passd away a few years ago....

...imran khan will always be the voice of conscious of pakistan........however, he needs a constituency.......he will never be able to compete against ppp and pml as long as pakistan's politics is based on feudalism and piri-faqiri - nearly all of whom are in ppp and pml......

.......aitezaz has a constituency......the lawyers.....he has clearly indicated his loyalties are with the lawyers over the ppp......

.....a few interesting developments.....pml's feudals and pirs are now, almost totally out of the pml(n) and are all in pml(q)......so pml(n) is now an urban upper class party...none of its top leaders - nawaz, shahbaz, javed hashmi, raja zafar, chaudhry nisar, khwaja saad, etc. are feudals or pirs.......

ppp is all filled with feudals and pirs at its top end - benazir, amin fahim, gilani, shah mehmood etc........the one top guy, who was no a pir - aitezaz - has parted ways.....(jehangir badr and raza are two others, but insignificant)...

...since 62% or so of pakistani politics is still based on piri and feudalism/tribalism, one would have to conclude that ppp and pml(q) will win the most seats, as this part of politics is relatively unaffected by other factors.......

mqm has the largest non-feudal votebase, however, it is totally with musharraf......jui(f) has the second highest, and it is with musharraf.......

much will depend on what ppp does......does it roll over towards musharraf or does it roll towards the non-feudal/non-pir group.......it doesn't belong with either......

aitezaz ahsan should start his own political party and separate out from the ppp......he has nothing in common with benazir etc.....

.....imran khan might defeat everyone in a 1-1 race, but he needs to develop a constituency for his party, which is unique........

musharraf has things well organized......he rigs elections to get pml(q) around a third of the seats.....this combined with mqm and jui and ppp (sherpao) gives him almost enough for a majority....then he offers benazir some carrots to join in or threatens her party members, and gets a majority.......

back to square one - though he will need 2/3rd majority to get indemnity for his actions.......that he cannot do even with rigging........for that he will need all of ppp's vote.....he was able to do it last time, with mma vote......what will he do this time........

In addition to #29, and finally IK should give up his "romance" with his ex-wife who spat him out like used chewing gum and quit acting like a "peon of the West" in that field. Politics is about the life and death of the Pakistani people, it is not about sending impression making emails to the love of your life who has discarded you and at the time thought of you and your kids as horse shit....

watch tahmed and his chaprasee redflag my post because they are mortally afraid of anyone busting the mythology of white supremacy and Western overlordship. They stand exposed...

tahmed, peon of the West writes "does that mean imran khan is irrelevant to pakistan politics (like everyone on chowk, e.g.)? of course not. he has served as a rallying point for students"

Hypocrisy thy name is tahmed. Here is a person who was preaching to us as well as to IK that he should stay out of politics and concentrate on his charity work like Eidi, and now he does a turnaround, why? because the desire of the US elite coincided with using Imran as a "niche". That is the only principle he abides by this tahmed fellow, that of unconditional worship of the Western elite.

The IK needs to understand the rules of the game, as an outsider shouting against the powers that be, based on his celebrity value (the apathy factor which doesn't work in politics)he will achieve nothing except for being a "niche" in attaining the desires of the powers that be at various times. He will be used and discarded as a whore (pardon my expression but I am sincere to him unlike tahmed). He needs to figure out how to become a part of the establishment using whatever means necessary and then play the role that he is playing on the outside at this moment...

Eid Mubarak -- hamidm, tahmed and Arjun miaN on his flying pig.

Re: # 26

arjun,

... can you change that to a flying horse named buraq ? ...... and please don't mention the word 'pig' on this forum unless you want your mouth washed out with soap .....

#24 Posted by nasah on December 21, 2007 7:28:47 am


I will put my money on him -- the future prime minister of a secular Pakistan.


My money is on the flying pig..