The Holiday Season

#26 bjkumar: What about them poor plants? You think the carrots dont start shivering with fear, the kaddus dont start wishing one another sad goodbyes, when a vegetarian steps towards them??

Please see these 'sacrifices' .this is from karachi


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ4uk1DRjFg&feature=related

All Indians please see these 'sacrifices' to the blood thirsty Allah.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=uwDC528uD_M

I am firmly convinced that the vast majority of the world's meat-eating population would turn vegetarian in one second if it were to be involved in a hands-on manner in the basic work necessary to accumulate the ingredients.

Miss Rashid, I'm truly appalled at the untruths you've stated either to please yourself, or your master: Satan.

Have you studied, leave aside compared, translations of the Quran? How old are you, ten, twenty? Time is running out, please come to your senses.

And all of you CHOWKIES who don't know who Ibrahim is, shame on you for abusing and poking fun at a prophet, someone who called himself a Haneef and a Muslim (not Shia or Sunni)! Someone whose first Sunnah was to stand up to a disbelieving father and then take the system head-on. And here we are doing nothing more than offering animal sacrifices!

The same was the case with Jesus who launched an operation cleanup against the homosexuality in the temples and the interest-based money-lending! All prophets were reformers. This is man's classwork on earth about which he will be questioned. Any religion that treats time here as a 'picnic' free from responsibilty is not from God!

And you wrote:'possibly schizophrenic man set out to kill his son, or a day when virgin Mary gave birth to God's illegitimate child'.

I'm afraid, that accusation you'll have to answer yourself before God. Where did you get these ideas from? Salman Rushdie? Hollywood? Quote your sources please. Where did your parents go wrong?

And by the way, God never asked Ibrahim to offer his first-born son as human sacrifice! Then who did?

Dreams come from two sources: God and Satan. The first category is for prophets and pious persons, the second for the weak-willed failthless ones. Only through God's guidance can mankind learn to differentiate. To achieve this, one needs to submit to the Creator and not to the created. The reward is life eternal! The rest is all loitering about in life's CHOWK.

CHOWK is read by impressionable minds who certainly don't need perverted athiestic views from unhappy faithless individuals who frequently stoop to cursing a way that leads to God.

How conveniently have you lumped together all religions as 'preying on people's vulnerability and desire for acceptance'. People prey on people, not God's religion, and which is only one: Islam (complete submission to the will of God).

Please read Muhammad Asad's THE MESSAGE OF THE QUR'AN, or his autobiography (The road to Mecca) to understand a thing or two about Islam.

Peace, little sister.

#22 SR: you join pmishra (who at least has the excuse of being a hindu extremist whose job it is to berate islam and other minority religions in India) in calling a man who lived thousands of year ago a disgusting character? Did you ever meet him, observe his habits, or even merely interact with him on the internet?

If not, then perhaps you need to speak only about stuff you something about.

#19 smellthecoffee: what you write isnt true - hypocrisy is killing and eating an animal and calling it a sacrifice. When meat is eaten and called what it is - i.e. a meal, not a sacrifice - then it is not hypocrisy.

Re: # 9 pmishra ["...Abraham was ... disgusting ...fanatic and all-around hater, ... cults that celebrate him [are] the most violent ..."]

It's not reasonable to say that Ibrahim (Abraham) was a disgusting character. The poor man was only delusional, or maybe even just intoxicated on peyote that grew on those arid mountains slopes. He heard voices and saw visions but he was earnest. If anyone is disgusting its not him, but the lemmings who blindly follow this silly ritual and thik it will take them across pull siraat on the Judgement Day. As far as pull siraat is concerned, its another massive scam. Consider that Almighty Allah could have, if he wanted to, made the bridge in question two feet wide instead of being thinner than a hair and sharper than a sword. By not making it easily passable, it seems that the intention is to stack the odds against the average Joe. One could hardly call it a fair system.

...SR

i think she likes to see goats and cows being slaughtered.

hypocrisy is the base . on this eid there was a change.some human sacrifice in charsadda mosque in an attempt to exterminate sherpao the nab defaulter.

#18 Posted by masadi,

masadi you've raised an interesting point. Why do people protest over mass slaughter of animals when they eat the same mass slaughtered animals all year?

I suspect it may be that Muslims slaughter these animals themselves ... even teach their kids how to do it, and it is all out in the open with blood and guts in clear sight, rather than in an abattoir - mechanised to drain everything mechanically, keep what can be shrink-wrapped attractively for display in supermarkets for dinner tables, and sell every tiny bit of unpalatable remains for animal feed to fatten them up for the same use down the road.

What's the difference? It is indeed between hypocrisy and reality. They do not deny the food chain, nor will give it up, while at the same time denouncing those who ritually celebrate it.

tahmed writes "and eid (muslim excuse to kill and eat bezabaan animals calling this gluttony a "sacrifice")!!

Hypocrisy - they name is religious customs!!"

Hypocrisy- thy name is tahmed: This peon of the West will not refrain from cheerleading for US wars, trying to legitmize the Israeli carnage in Lebanon, and cheerleading nostaligically for Brit colonization of India, yet he is very concerned about "bezabaan animals"- whom he eats all year long.

Now, you may not agree with the ritual of slaughtering an animal (as has become a custom among Muslims) to eat and distributing its meat among the poor, who very seldom get to eat such protein, but describing that practice as "gluttony" as this fool does, when it certainly is not for the vast majority of Muslims, is quite disingenuous, and coming from a person that tries to legitmize the carnage carried out by his "gods", the objects of his worship, the white man and the US elite, it is hypocrisy at its purest....


p.s: see how fast tahmed and/or his chaprasee red flag this post to get me banned again...

Re: # 16

Kaal Khan saheb,

Yeh Eklavya kyun ban kar hum hinduoon ko bhramit karne ki koshish kar rahe hein.
Shayad yeh Taquiya ka ek tariqa hai!!

philo, welcome back. Impeccably put. At least, forces us to confront the fact that nothing like universal morality exists.

Kaal

Two guys standed on a desert island.. will soon develop a system of co-existence and morals...god couldn't do that if he tried.

Re: # 13

"According to religious epistemology ,God is the source of all moralities."

LOL........Sorry I would give you a zero in your epistemology paper.........what a joke....