The Holiday Season

nasah #42

Of course, the ramayana is a mess of contradictions and strange claims. Rama is shown as a troubled king, one with many flaws - his murder of Bali is the best know example. You are an indian and close observer of indian society, you are probably aware that hindus themselves spend time debating these things publically.

So why is there this reluctance to accept that Abraham/Moses/Mohammed are troubled individuals, admirable from some perspectives, but nevertheless ugly in many others??? And that their inheritance includes violence and many negatives?

nasah writes "How primitive and aborrhent ...."

Primitive and abhorrent does not describe the supermarket when you go there to buy meat to eat. Ever visited the slaugheter house in America? That is what "primitive and barbaric" looks like. Primitive and barbaric is the meaningless slaughter of of the Bison by the white man to intimidate the natives, leading to its extinction nearly, primitive is not spending your money to ensure the poor get the same kind of food atleast this one season that you are used to year round. Nothing primitive either about the slaughter of animals for food nor in the method of slaughter that is more humane that the BS going on in American slaughter houses

nasah writes "'Sacrifice' my foot -- the mass murder of poor animals to make God happy -- is a practice of the 14th century barbarian morality -- that has also filtered in Islamist's Jihad as the homicide bombing"

Domesticated animals are raised for food purposes, there would be no "mass" of them were it not for their food value. Meat eating by humans goes back a lot longer than the 14th century dimwit and the practice of sacrificing your wealth to feed the poor, emulating Ibrahim after the Hajj season goes back a lot longer than even the 7th century. Linking that to the modern US war on terror BS about Islamic Jihad is the most outrageous stretch of dishonest propaganda that I have read here to date...

nasah writes "Who is a bigger insane?"

You are, the material you can "see" and "detect" forms a very small percent of the universe the rest, the larger part is the dark matter and dark energy that can only be postulated through logic and mathematics....now you get the picture fool?

#45 Nasah, #46 Tahir, #49 Einsteinwallah : Of course the great paradoxe of this great 'Creator'- Omniscient, Omnipresent, omnipotent & bla bla, bla... is that only Tahirs find it tricky to find him, especially when they call for him.

Simpletons have learnt to live without him come rain or highwater, since free thinkers (or atheists for E-wallah) like Buddha shown the way. They are also known to have been the most respectful of others opinion and ..life. Not even trying to contradict God suckers. Compare that with great faith callers - Abraham for Jews, Muslims, Christians,and also Manu for Hindu....,butchers. At least atheists take their social responsibility head on and no religious apologies. They don't kill because they don't want to be killed. They behave with compassion because they want to be treated with compassion as no God will come to help them.

Why not let us all become atheist? Anyone talking irrationality will be killed. He or she will be given 50 years to prove that he or she was actually being rational when in fact he or she was sounding crazy irrational. Children will be exempt. Age of majority will be 60 years. This is Rationalistic Atheism. Anyone wants to join this brand new religion I founded 10 minutes back? I need Coffee and Sugar into my system.

#47
Please also try and have other practices like Spanish bull-fighting, Japanese whale-killing, Thai cock-fighting and what not banned too!

It is the 'civilised' people's burden that they must try and understand those they label as 'barbaric' or 'uncivilsed' third-worlders.

The Alexander (the great, my foot) pagan homosexual kills thousands, that's okay; Genghis Khan (oooh,la..la) does the same, he's baaad!

Blackmail, black market, black sheep are white man's gift of convenient labels. Whatever he thinks is right cannot be right for the entire planet

Damn that sort of education, pin-striped suits and the thinking that oozes straight out from the laptops.

Re: # 39

"masadi: That is a lame bakra of an excuse you make for killing poor animals and calling it sacrifice, i.e. the excuse that you "sacrificed" your money to buy the poor animal. Understand this: you "spend", not "sacrifice", money to buy food!!"(tahmed)

you can say that again -- tahmed.

'Sacrifice' my foot -- the mass murder of poor animals to make God happy -- is a practice of the 14th century barbarian morality -- that has also filtered in Islamist's Jihad as the homicide bombing.

How primitive and aborrhent -- that you can please God by the cruel massacre of God's animals big and small in millions and millions years after years for centiuries.

It is no better than the pagan Americans -- killing millions of Turkeys for their barbaric thanksgiving day every year -- for no thanks to that the blind "Creator" -- who supposedly created America for the red Indians but gave it to the white Americans.

Both thankssgiving and Baqar-e Eid -- are by no means a "happy thanksgiving" or "Happy Eid" -- for the poor animals -- both should be banned in civilized countries as cruelities against animals.

#43
Profess your faith first brother. What are you? What is mine is clear from interact #25.

The perverted little Freud has been proven wrong; he peeped too often into his fly to weep at whatever little he was endowed with.

Science wants proof, rats, labs, and unsure fools. God wants to instill faith, asks for man's willful surrender, and treats this perishable world as an examination hall.

You cannot compare man-made with what's God made. Persoanl philosphies have led many to deny, rebel, and violate the needs of the fragile soul. Please stop being a religious hippy, that's all I can request you.

The faithless call their state of disbelief 'bliss'. Whether it is so, we'll soon find out. As long as materialism works, they don't need God, but when nothing helps, they beg him in secret.

Logic and pure reason is the hallmark of Greek thought which restricted itself to nation states; it could not see the universal picture. And when it was exported to our lands, it became neo-Platonism and then Sufism! God!

Our brilliant reason and logic dies with us, faith and good deeds survive. It is faithless science which, having fought with the church, teaches others to do the same. The problem is that those who see 'God is nohwere' written before them disregard the reality of seeing 'God is NOW HERE!' at the moment of death.

Did you come into being and then grow up to be a disbeliever by the logically reached conclusions of your parents? Look within yourslef, and gaze skywards to see who is at work. If you can't see the stamp, that's because you spent all your time reading men and not God's Word.

I'll be happy to send you and your friends references from the Qur'an. It is painfully apparent that Biblical character assassination is at work here, and which is shameful. God says, "peace be on Ibrahim" because 'he is exalted in this world and the Hereafter.'

Please be aware that you're being marked negatively for whatever you type here at InterAct.

Evil comes from man's own hands, good comes from God, says the Qur'an.

Peace little brother.

Re: # 43
"To achieve this, one needs to submit to the Creator and not to the created." (Regard sahib)

and btw with due regard -- who the hell is this unseen 'Creator' fellow?

at least the Hindus talk to something substantative -- even though inanimate but it exists -- made of clay, porcelain, metal or of straw that one can at least look at with even an insane monkey face or an elephant head!

To whom we Muslims, the Christians and the the Jews talk to -- insane empty space -- made of insane Higg's particles?

Who is a bigger insane?

"If this isnt insanity, I would like to know what is????"(Sharma Ji

How about an insane Ramayana?

Those of us who live in insane glass houses themselves should not......at other's insanities.

In this hammam of insane fairy tales....hindu muslime jew eesaaee/sub haiN paagal bhaiee bhaiee


Voh meree bekhoodee pay huNstay haiN
Maikaday maikashi pe huNstay haiN

Ref 25 Tahir: "Dreams come from two sources: God and Satan. The first category is for prophets and pious persons, the second for the weak-willed failthless ones. Only through God's guidance can mankind learn to differentiate. To achieve this, one needs to submit to the Creator and not to the created. The reward is life eternal! The rest is all loitering about in life's CHOWK.

CHOWK is read by impressionable minds who certainly don't need perverted athiestic views from unhappy faithless individuals who frequently stoop to cursing a way that leads to God."

Surprising to see that there are still 'minds' who get impressed by their own dreams. Please Tahir read any basic article on dreams, riddles fabricated by idling mind in the active phases of sleep from the memory bits.

Spirits tortured by religious cherabia for happiness and paradise are certainly unable to appreciate the atheistic bliss when the speculatory regime of religions is driven away by logically reached conclusions. The calm of Buddha and others who meditated logically was often interpreted as unhappiness.

tahmed writes "Understand this: you "spend", not "sacrifice", money to buy food!! "

No, you understand this, you "sacrifice" when you take out of things that you value and love to give them away to others in the way of Allah....You wouldn't understand this because in the worldview of your "gods", people are valued for how much can be extracted from them to fill the coffers of the elite and not the other way around...

Why is Shri Abraham disgusting? Well, lets review this fellows actions:

1) Ideological violence against his family traditions - in other words, one of the first extremists from history. This is in distinction to the use of self-defense in protecting oneself.

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Abraham's father, Terach was an idol-manufacturer. Once he had to travel, so he left Abraham to manage the shop. People would come in and ask to buy idols. Abraham would say, "How old are you?" The person would say, "Fifty," or "Sixty". Abraham would say, "Isn't it pathetic that a man of sixty wants to bow down to a one-day-old idol?" The man would feel ashamed and leave.

One time a woman came with a basket of bread. She said to Abraham, "Take this and offer it to the gods".

Abraham got up, took a hammer in his hand, broke all the idols to pieces, and then put the hammer in the hand of the biggest idol among them.

When his father came back and saw the broken idols, he was appalled. "Who did this?" he cried. "How can I hide anything from you?" replied Abraham calmly. "A woman came with a basket of bread and told me to offer it to them. I brought it in front of them, and each one said, "I'm going to eat first." Then the biggest one got up, took the hammer and broke all the others to pieces."

"What are you trying to pull on me?" asked Terach, "Do they have minds?"

Said Abraham: "Listen to what your own mouth is saying? They have no power at all! Why worship idols?"
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Notice how from the start one this fellow uses violence to prove that one way of thought is superior to another.

2) Delusional thinking that also involves the possibility of human sacrifice. In other words, the guy was really crazy !

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Some time after the birth of Isaac, Abraham was commanded by God to offer his son up as a sacrifice in the land of Moriah. The patriarch traveled three days until he came to the mount that God taught him. He commanded the servant to remain while he and Isaac proceeded alone to the mountain, Isaac carrying the wood upon which he would be sacrificed. Along the way, Isaac repeatedly asked Abraham where the animal for the burnt offering was. Abraham then replied that God would provide one. Just as Abraham was about to sacrifice his son, he was prevented by an angel, and given on that spot a ram which he sacrificed in place of his son. Thus it is said, "On the mountain the Lord provides." (Genesis 22) As a reward for his obedience he received another promise of a numerous seed and abundant prosperity (22). After this event, Abraham did not return to Hebron, Sarah's encampment, but instead went to Beersheba, Keturah's encampment, and it is to Beersheba that Abraham's servant brought Rebecca, Isaac's patrilineal parallel cousin who became his wife.

The near sacrifice of Isaac is one of the most challenging, and perhaps ethically troublesome, parts of the Bible. According to Josephus, Isaac was 25 years old at the time of the sacrifice or Akedah, while the Talmudic sages teach that Isaac was 37. In either case, Isaac was a fully grown man, old enough to prevent the elderly Abraham (who was 125 or 137 years old) from tying him up had he wanted to resist. The narrative now turns to Isaac. To his "only son" (22:2, 12) Abraham gave all he had, and dismissed his other sons, as Abraham himself had been dismissed by Terah after Terah had given his territory to Nahor.
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If this isnt insanity, I would like to know what is????

yar this is such stereotypical shyte..it preys on paki sterotype of amrican girls liquoring and getting knocked-up. is it any surprise if poor cabbie dads get into murderous rage over their daughters not wearing the hijab?

masadi: That is a lame bakra of an excuse you make for killing poor animals and calling it sacrifice, i.e. the excuse that you "sacrificed" your money to buy the poor animal. Understand this: you "spend", not "sacrifice", money to buy food!!

SR #37: I re-read as you said, and agree that it was pmishra, not you, who was calling sri Ibrahim jee "disgusting" (you were merely quoting him). So, cancel the appointment with the optometrist.

However, there is no basis for your saying that Ibrahim sahib was high on something vs merely being disingenuous as pmishra suggested. Because the truth is - no body really knows except Ibrahim and God (and the former is dead, and the Latter decided to quit interacting with mankind after he saw the mess muslims made of the message that he sent). Some people now think that the voices that Joan of Arc said she heard were symptoms of schizophrenia, e.g. And of course, there is always the chance that God did literally what Abrahamic religion followers have fervently believed happened (i.e. that he actually spoke from the heavens in a deep thunderous voice, or something like that).

Long story short - we dont know. So, why conjecture on whether he was sincere and high, or insincere and sober? There is an excellent article in the Washington Post today that deals most insightfully with this entire religion vs science crop (note that I didnt say crap) that is the staple on chowk for many people. So, let me end by quoting something that are sure to annoy atheists and religious fanatics alike: Can gradual evolutionary changes account for the complex structures of cells and the eye? Why is the fossil record so weak when it comes to major mutations? I have no idea. There are unsolved mysteries in Darwinian evolution. There is also no credible scientific alternative.

read the complete article (highly recommended) at the following link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/20/AR2007122001866. html

Re: # 24 tahmed ["...#22 SR: you join pmishra ...in calling a man ...disgusting ..."]

Ahmed sahib please re-read # 22 ... if you still have the same to say to me, then please go see an eye specialist.

...SR

watch them redflag even this post of mine, why you ask? Beacause they are afraid, mortally afraid of someone busting their myths of white supremacy and Western overlordship....

tahmed writes "#19 smellthecoffee: what you write isnt true - hypocrisy is killing and eating an animal and calling it a sacrifice"

Once again the peon of the West's posts are full of fluff and fake sensibilities and little else. The "sacrifice" is not the slaughter part, otherwise every slaughter of animals by Muslims for eating purposes would be defined such. The "sacrifice" refers to the charity part where you sacrifice what you desire for yourself for the sake of God to help the needy.

Of course if a legitmate criticism can be done of the custom that of "waste" which is condemned in the Quran, then we would be all ears but as usual this peon of the West is just trying to cover up the crimes of his masters using his usual fluff...

tahmed writes "#19 smellthecoffee: what you write isnt true - hypocrisy is killing and eating an animal and calling it a sacrifice"

Once again the peon of the West's posts are full of fluff and fake sensibilities and little else. The "sacrifice" is not the slaughter part, otherwise every slaughter of animals by Muslims for eating purposes would be defined such. The "sacrifice" refers to the charity part where you sacrifice what you desire for yourself for the sake of God to help the needy.

Of course if a legitmate criticism can be done of the custom that of "waste" which is condemned in the Quran, then we would be all ears but as usual this peon of the West is just trying to cover up the crimes of his masters using his usual fluff...

Re: # 30

Islam was always into human Qurbanis...........right from the days of profit.

Re #19

"smellthecoffee: what you write isnt true - hypocrisy is killing and eating an animal and calling it a sacrifice ..."

It is a bit like bombing Iraqis ... and callig it democracy.
Long live the King.

Re: # 26 BJ

False... people have been doing this hands-on open air meat harvest for ages - not many have turned veggie... i myself have done that to a number unfortunate roosters... on "holy" occasions of birthdays or what not... :)

Looks like pakis have graduated from animal sacrifice to human sacrifice, on the holy occasion of eid... 50 have been sacrificed by a brave paki islmaic soldier in a mosque in some village in pkailnd...

#26 bjkumar: What about them poor plants? You think the carrots dont start shivering with fear, the kaddus dont start wishing one another sad goodbyes, when a vegetarian steps towards them??

Please see these 'sacrifices' .this is from karachi


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ4uk1DRjFg&feature=related

All Indians please see these 'sacrifices' to the blood thirsty Allah.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=uwDC528uD_M

I am firmly convinced that the vast majority of the world's meat-eating population would turn vegetarian in one second if it were to be involved in a hands-on manner in the basic work necessary to accumulate the ingredients.

Miss Rashid, I'm truly appalled at the untruths you've stated either to please yourself, or your master: Satan.

Have you studied, leave aside compared, translations of the Quran? How old are you, ten, twenty? Time is running out, please come to your senses.

And all of you CHOWKIES who don't know who Ibrahim is, shame on you for abusing and poking fun at a prophet, someone who called himself a Haneef and a Muslim (not Shia or Sunni)! Someone whose first Sunnah was to stand up to a disbelieving father and then take the system head-on. And here we are doing nothing more than offering animal sacrifices!

The same was the case with Jesus who launched an operation cleanup against the homosexuality in the temples and the interest-based money-lending! All prophets were reformers. This is man's classwork on earth about which he will be questioned. Any religion that treats time here as a 'picnic' free from responsibilty is not from God!

And you wrote:'possibly schizophrenic man set out to kill his son, or a day when virgin Mary gave birth to God's illegitimate child'.

I'm afraid, that accusation you'll have to answer yourself before God. Where did you get these ideas from? Salman Rushdie? Hollywood? Quote your sources please. Where did your parents go wrong?

And by the way, God never asked Ibrahim to offer his first-born son as human sacrifice! Then who did?

Dreams come from two sources: God and Satan. The first category is for prophets and pious persons, the second for the weak-willed failthless ones. Only through God's guidance can mankind learn to differentiate. To achieve this, one needs to submit to the Creator and not to the created. The reward is life eternal! The rest is all loitering about in life's CHOWK.

CHOWK is read by impressionable minds who certainly don't need perverted athiestic views from unhappy faithless individuals who frequently stoop to cursing a way that leads to God.

How conveniently have you lumped together all religions as 'preying on people's vulnerability and desire for acceptance'. People prey on people, not God's religion, and which is only one: Islam (complete submission to the will of God).

Please read Muhammad Asad's THE MESSAGE OF THE QUR'AN, or his autobiography (The road to Mecca) to understand a thing or two about Islam.

Peace, little sister.

#22 SR: you join pmishra (who at least has the excuse of being a hindu extremist whose job it is to berate islam and other minority religions in India) in calling a man who lived thousands of year ago a disgusting character? Did you ever meet him, observe his habits, or even merely interact with him on the internet?

If not, then perhaps you need to speak only about stuff you something about.

#19 smellthecoffee: what you write isnt true - hypocrisy is killing and eating an animal and calling it a sacrifice. When meat is eaten and called what it is - i.e. a meal, not a sacrifice - then it is not hypocrisy.

Re: # 9 pmishra ["...Abraham was ... disgusting ...fanatic and all-around hater, ... cults that celebrate him [are] the most violent ..."]

It's not reasonable to say that Ibrahim (Abraham) was a disgusting character. The poor man was only delusional, or maybe even just intoxicated on peyote that grew on those arid mountains slopes. He heard voices and saw visions but he was earnest. If anyone is disgusting its not him, but the lemmings who blindly follow this silly ritual and thik it will take them across pull siraat on the Judgement Day. As far as pull siraat is concerned, its another massive scam. Consider that Almighty Allah could have, if he wanted to, made the bridge in question two feet wide instead of being thinner than a hair and sharper than a sword. By not making it easily passable, it seems that the intention is to stack the odds against the average Joe. One could hardly call it a fair system.

...SR

i think she likes to see goats and cows being slaughtered.

hypocrisy is the base . on this eid there was a change.some human sacrifice in charsadda mosque in an attempt to exterminate sherpao the nab defaulter.

#18 Posted by masadi,

masadi you've raised an interesting point. Why do people protest over mass slaughter of animals when they eat the same mass slaughtered animals all year?

I suspect it may be that Muslims slaughter these animals themselves ... even teach their kids how to do it, and it is all out in the open with blood and guts in clear sight, rather than in an abattoir - mechanised to drain everything mechanically, keep what can be shrink-wrapped attractively for display in supermarkets for dinner tables, and sell every tiny bit of unpalatable remains for animal feed to fatten them up for the same use down the road.

What's the difference? It is indeed between hypocrisy and reality. They do not deny the food chain, nor will give it up, while at the same time denouncing those who ritually celebrate it.

tahmed writes "and eid (muslim excuse to kill and eat bezabaan animals calling this gluttony a "sacrifice")!!

Hypocrisy - they name is religious customs!!"

Hypocrisy- thy name is tahmed: This peon of the West will not refrain from cheerleading for US wars, trying to legitmize the Israeli carnage in Lebanon, and cheerleading nostaligically for Brit colonization of India, yet he is very concerned about "bezabaan animals"- whom he eats all year long.

Now, you may not agree with the ritual of slaughtering an animal (as has become a custom among Muslims) to eat and distributing its meat among the poor, who very seldom get to eat such protein, but describing that practice as "gluttony" as this fool does, when it certainly is not for the vast majority of Muslims, is quite disingenuous, and coming from a person that tries to legitmize the carnage carried out by his "gods", the objects of his worship, the white man and the US elite, it is hypocrisy at its purest....


p.s: see how fast tahmed and/or his chaprasee red flag this post to get me banned again...

Re: # 16

Kaal Khan saheb,

Yeh Eklavya kyun ban kar hum hinduoon ko bhramit karne ki koshish kar rahe hein.
Shayad yeh Taquiya ka ek tariqa hai!!

philo, welcome back. Impeccably put. At least, forces us to confront the fact that nothing like universal morality exists.

Kaal

Two guys standed on a desert island.. will soon develop a system of co-existence and morals...god couldn't do that if he tried.

Re: # 13

"According to religious epistemology ,God is the source of all moralities."

LOL........Sorry I would give you a zero in your epistemology paper.........what a joke....

Please also note the abusive language which passes for 'philosophers' language in certain religions.

Party not Piety is what is behind these holidays

Thus, e.g. christmas carried over from pre-christian times - and was associated basically the day when the poor in London (e.g.) would be let in (even if unwillingly) in rich men's homes to party and booze till the next day.

Puritans (under Cromwell) banned christmas (anything that made people happy being considered sinful), and it was allowed as a holiday only after the puritans lost power on popular demands by the new king. the puritans in the US banned it too.

same thing for hannukah (jewish imitation of christmas) and kwanza (black imitation of christmas) and eid (muslim excuse to kill and eat bezabaan animals calling this gluttony a "sacrifice")!!

Hypocrisy - they name is religious customs!!

Re: # 9
Mishra: Do you think Abraham possessed a flowing beard which became fashionable to his followers ? Or is it because there were no barbers in the desert?
Kanmath

Re: # 9 piss mishra

I have been absent from chowk for some time aur tum jaisaon ko aapni auqaat bhool gai? kis nay kholi hai tum logon ki muhaar? Anyhow... i am encouraged by your enraged response. i am back beta... FASTEN YOUR SEAT BELTS..all you kanjroon..madroons...secularoon, hamidoon, hindooon and arjuoon on chowk.

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Not only does it explodes the idea of the 'ethical interpretation of religion' it also shows that religion itself is not a 'moral philosophy' .
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Well, glad we got that out of the way. Most religions are power-based cults and have little to do with "moral philosophy". The rest of "philosophers" bakwaas is a complicated way of saying - no matter, this god gibberish still makes sense somehow.

Abraham was a particularly disgusting individual, an intemperate fanatic and all-around hater, its no surprise that cults that celebrate him have been amongst the most violent throughout history.

Eid ul adha is the commemoration of the sacrifice of the Prophet Ibrahim(pbuh). This sacrifice shows a very significant dimension of religious epistemology. Not only does it explodes the idea of the 'ethical interpretation of religion' it also shows that religion itself is not a 'moral philosophy' .On the other hand moralities are dependent on the basic tenets of religion. According to religious epistemology ,God is the source of all moralities. Moralities are there only to play a role of guidance for the person involved in the religious activity. According to the glorious Quran development of perception plays a very important role in intellectual and spirtual development of a man. Religious moralities show you the path in the complexity and illusion of appearance to comprehend the reality beyond that. A religious person has always in veiw that commitment to those guidance and will of God. He reaches to the point where he starts comprehending the hitherto unreaveled meaning of the religious language which no lexicographical meaning could possibly reveal. Prophet Ibrahim(pbuh) reamaind and patient and commited despite his natural love for his son. It shows that real 'momin' has got to see everything with perspective of the will of God. There is a saying of the Holy prophet muhammed(pbuh) '' be ware of the wisdom of the man of faith because he sees with the light of Allah''. At that point you remain patient and commited to the guidance. The sheep that was sent by God simbolizes the ''reality'' which is beyond the illusion of appearance. This shows that the 'Truth' can be found only by following the commands of the God. People who interpret religion and scripture suited to their ''oon''(a generic term for kanjroon, madroon ,secularoon and liberaloon....courtsy echoboom) inclinations are the worst of the losers and they are decieved by the illusion of the appearance.

"As the story goes, God appeared in a dream to Ibrahim and told him to sacrifice his son Isma'il. Ibrahim and Isma'il set off to Mina for the sacrifice. Mother tells the boy that as the Prophet went with his only child, the devil attempted to persuade Ibrahim to disobey God and not to sacrifice his beloved son. But Ibrahim stayed true to God, and drove the devil away. As Ibrahim prepared to kill his son God stopped him and gave him a sheep to sacrifice instead."

I think the story was that Abrahim actually killed his son........and the son was made alive again........so a father killing his son as sacrifice for the blood thirsty God of Abrahim.......

Also, Buddhism is nastika and does not assert the existence and interference of a God..........
questions of god are avayaktanis........

Re: # 4

"They don't kill animal to please god (I am not sure what kind of God needs animal life to be pleased)..."

What about the god that needs human life (of mushriques, kafirs and mujahideens) to be pleased....

I am not expert in Budhdhism. But it does not depend upon miracle or word of God. They don't kill animal to please god (I am not sure what kind of God needs animal life to be pleased).

My parents and teachers taught me what to believe when I was a child, I questioned it when I was a young man, I don't believe those things now that I'm close to 40, maybe in a few years as my health goes downhill I'll "get religion" again. What good is religion unless it changes (for the better) the way I behave?

Azra: What is your point? Why do you restrict to monotheistic religions? All religions demand an unquestioning faith assured by self-sacrifice.

Most “miracles” do not bear scientific scrutiny well, which is why over such a long time, organized religions have tried to downplay education in general and education that stimulates questioning minds, in particular. Organized religions derive their strength from the weight of the status quo and from the constantly replenishing and vastly higher number of minds that would always take the more convenient route of following what is prescribed rather than question it and experiment with the new.