Aqsa Pervez: The Casualty of Patriarchy

chowkid1. Participation in workforce is not the only way for ladies to contribute to their families and their communities.

Instead of getting caught up in this androcitrus tangle, why not look at the broad picture?

#18 Posted by neembu on December 22, 2007 12:54:40 pm


Why is it necessary to limit patriarchy and androcentricity to only conservative Muslim communities?


yes...take a look at the rate of women's participation in the workforce for any other group..you can't tell me that's not because of "androcentricity" in the muslim community..

Re # 18 Neembusri, where did I say it was necessary? and Desis and moderate Muslims are also included. Now your turn to comment on the article.

Re: # 17

Why, Kunkil? Why is it necessary to limit patriarchy and androcentricity to only conservative Muslim communities? Isn't that a form of intellectual dissemblance?

Instead of coming up with chastity belt and patriarchic theories, just acknowledge that a murderous Muslim male killed his daughter in a rage like it happens every day in Islamic world. Jordan leading the pack of animals in Honor killing (including Israeli administered territories), followed by Egyptians, and Pakistanis not so far behind. Leave the anthropology out of Honor killings condoned by muslim awareness.

Prisoner, you are a captive...

Of your preconceived notions, ignorance, and the inability to see things for what they are.

Tell you what, I shall act...

I denounce abortion here and now...

Now it is your turn...

Denounce the primitive mindset that killed Aqsa Pervez...

Go ahead, show some guts...

Break free from your chains of servitude - which you mistakenly think are your decorative jewels...

Break away now from that eternal ghulaami, the servile mindset...

Do it NOW, if you got any guts. Do it now - or forever remain a slave!

THE prisoner!

The winds of change are blowing through Saudi Arabia, a sex shop in makkah,
Astagfirullah, what next?

ANN Summers, the sex shop and lingerie chain, has been granted permission to open 22 shops in the Middle East, including one in the holy city of Mecca.
The Telegraph has learned that "erotic stock" has already been shipped to Kuwait in preparation for the opening of the first shops in October.The branch in Saudi Arabia will be at the Mecca International Mall. Permission to open the stores was obtained through the company's Kuwait-based franchise, Makae/Top Ten International.
Ann Summers, which has a turnover of more than £53 million a year, will not however be able to sell its range of sex toys in the Middle East, where such goods are illegal. It will restrict the first sales to exotic lingerie, leather goods and PVC bodywear. It hopes to introduce chocolate bodypaints and massage oils later. Other stores are due to open in Dubai, Bahrain, Egypt, Qatar, Abu Dhabi and, possibly, Oman. Twelve are due to open from October, the rest in the New Year.
Noshaba Hussein, a leading member of the Iranian-backed Muslim Parliament of Great Britain, said she would lobby the Foreign Office and the Saudi Arabian ambassador to prevent the opening of the shops. "Who is supposed to buy these products? When Muslims go to the holy city they should only be indulging in prayer," she said.
Only Muslims are allowed to enter Mecca, the holiest city in Islam, where public observance of any other religion is forbidden. Every year, tens of thousands of pilgrims make their way to Mecca and Medina for the Hajj pilgrimage. Mohamed Ayed Alenezi, the chairman of Makae, defended the expansion. "Nice and sexy lingerie is not against Islam," he said.
Some Muslim clerics believe that Islamic married couples are allowed to share an interest in erotic underwear. Ayub Laher, the general secretary of the Bradford Council of Mosques, said that the shops would provide an outlet to explore fantasies: "Islam encourages a man and wife to please each other within the confines of their own homes. Underwear is allowed, massage oils can be part of innocent fun and as long as leather is not made out of pigskin, that is fine too."
The shops will be staffed by men. Senior staff, including Jacqueline Gold, the chief executive of Ann Summers, will be replaced by male executives for the stores' openings.

beej "Prisoner24601, I think abortion should not be allowed. "

think? 20 million aborted female fetuses in india in the last decade and you are still thinking, Beej?

I think its time to quit thinking and start acting, Beej.

and like I said earlier, charity begins at home. So beej, the first thing to do would be to check your backyard and your closets for any skeletons - skeletons of aborted female fetuses, that is.

once you are done doing that, report back to chowk and I will tell you the next steps, Beej.

Re: # 3

What contributes to this system of control is the distortion of the values of female agency (look the term up in a college dictionary). This post demonstrates it-rather than acknowledging female self will, self determination, choices, etc., female agency is grossly distorted as running around naked.

Btw, this interactor is presents himself as a 20 year old and so that should say something about the timeless quality of male anxiety and machismo.

Dear Hamza,

You are mistaken.

There is a right way to fry Donuts! Otherwise it will taste like the poops.

Similarly, there is a right way to do things - including how one treats one's own family members - boy OR girl!

When immigrants move in, it is expected of them that they will learn some of the right ways and leave some of the wrong ways "back home"!

That is not too much to ask.

Repeat after me - "the Saudi Arabian way to treat women is the WRONG way! That is not the Canadian way."

Paki culture = cab driving and terrorism

so paki culture is already here in america..

baba jee
first of all 'we' dont deport anyone, what 'we' do is fry donuts n change stained bedsheets at sleep inn...anyone who breaks a law of the land punishable by deportation does n should get deported...'we' should be making sure that there is a fresh batch of glazed so I dont have to wait n make small talk.

Prisoner24601, I think abortion should not be allowed.

Now, can we deport those people who live in USA/Canada but like to live by the primitive ways of the Saudis?

What say you, my dear?!

Beej "You know the old saying - when in Rome, live like the Romans!"


and YOU know that old saying - charity begins at home!

so why not begin to grant female fetuses the right to live, before you start worrying about the grown-up women of other cultures, beej? :)

Prisoner24601,

My dear, if you love to live like the Saudi Arabs why not live WITH the Saudi Arabians?

What is the point in trying to emulate the "real thing" from a distance? What's the matter - you do not LIKE the company of the Saudi Arabians? Too good for those folks, are you?!

How does it make any sense?

You know the old saying - when in Rome, live like the Romans!

It does not say - when in Canada, live like the Arabs, does it?! :)

Atif, and this is why you don't live in Saudi Arabia, is it?