Goodbye Pinky

all right bubba ! ...

i am already on record for advocating the invasion of saudi arabia and the liberation of the province of hijaz ... what else do you want me to say !

....... look, the saudis are directly and indirectly responsible for all this chaos and mayhem .... they have directly funded madrassas, terrorists and others ...... and indirectly they have kept the dream of an 'islamic' state alive with their medieval oil-funded 'model state'.......

......... but, i don't think they killed bb ...... if you think they did, it is your perogative ...... i think the sons of the moon god did it ...... but if you can get together a lashkar to invade saudi arabia i will consider joining it !

Re: # 40 Posted by hamidm2 on December 29, 2007 10:43:31 am

hamidullah, what i have been suggesting is that Saudi Arabia is responsible for this killing. is that clear enough? the other parameters will fit right into its place, once we focus on this one point. can you agree with this premise?

Re: # 49

malik mian,

...... sorry, but i will not be drrawn into this useless discussion ........ political islam is a real and present threat to civilization and we have to deal with it accordingly ..... case closed

Re: # 48

tahmed,

........ i agree with you ...... i was willing to give musharraf a chance to go through with the jan 8 elections with the hope that the new parliament would be able to get rid of him somewhere down the road ....... now, with bb's assassination, i think that as long as he is there it will be very difficult to hold credible election which will have the support of all major parties ..... so the best thing he can do for the country is to go ...... he should do it to avoid further bloodshed and violence .......... if he doesn't, i am afraid he will be playing right into the hands of the muslims .........

Re: # 32

Hamidm Sahib:

"........good advice, but which people ? ...... "

Mein javab dene ki koshish karun ga, agar aap mere ko yeh bataa dein ki kis kis ke haath mein kitni badi-badi lathian hain?

Hamidullah #47 - "so you are suggesting that cnn, cbs, nbc, msnbc and cnbc did it to improve their ratings ?"

perhaps. But thats not my major point. My major point is that if Bush can take you for a ride on WMDs in Iraq, WMDs in Iran, and BB's killing, he probably took you for a ride on 9/11 too.

There is a saying in West Texas that goes "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me" Its 6 years too late, but its never too late to admit that you were fooled thrice (!), by the same man. And that this war on terrorism is the biggest fraud since Pamela Anderson peddled her silicon dripping breasts as the "real thing".

This WoT was concocte to push neo-con agenda, just like every incident since then (like BB's killing) has been twisted to somehow fit the same agenda.

So when are you going to sit down to have an honest conversation with yourself? I suggest you do it today. Its weekend and the weather sucks. Besides, what best way to burry a shameful past then to do it at the end of a year - just so you can start a new year with a new YOU!

#47 hamidm: who got bb killed is not important at this stage. this is like debating the choice of paint for the deck when the ship is on the rocks.

what is important is - will law and order be restored in Pakistan (starting with restoration of the judiciary and replacement of musharraf's goons with a caretaker governmnet not beholden to musharraf) or not.

Re: # 45

malik mian,

..... so you are suggesting that cnn, cbs, nbc, msnbc and cnbc did it to improve their ratings ?........ i don't like cnbc but that doesn't mean they would conspire eith al-qaeda to kill bb ......

......... however, i do share your suspicions about the chaudharies - they look like thugs ....... however, my brother said they probably hired a madrassa student or lal masjid survivor to carry out the murder ....... according to him, with the drop in demand in kashmir, you can hire a suicide bomber for less than two lakh rupees in pindi ........ a homicider can be hired for about one lakh .... it is all about supply and demand ....... and just to show that it is not all that simple, my sister thinks zardari hired the killer - she thinks he looks like a crook ......... only the moon god knows the truth ......

#40 hamidm: you dont need to be the son of the moon god to understand what i wrote. just need to read a bit carefully.

what i am said, and what you agreed to intellectually yesterday, but are obviously unable to accept emotionally, is that military rule has run Pakistan to the ground. You would much rather take the easy route of blaming the "Abduls" whom you despise, rather than the "pukka sahibs" sitting in army messes lording it over Pakistan as if they were the Company Bahadur itself!!

#44 - ".... are you suggesting that george bush did it !?"

No, hamidullah. I am not suggesting that. What I am suggesting is that al-qaeda killing BB fits the storyline Bush has been feeding the world. Imagine how unromantic and boring it would be if Chaudhuri brothers were implicated in her murder? Americans can understand eternal threat posed by al-qaeda, but Chudhuri brothers? Who the hell are they?!!

Remember, this is George Bush's era. Every dot somehow needs to connect to al-qaeda and war on terrorism. If it doesnt, then it is too boring to be covered on american media. American media is all about ratings. And coverage of a bombing by al-qaeda conjures far higher ratings than a bombing by Chaudhuri brothers.

I suggest, you close the doors, pull the drapes (urstruly might just be lurking in the neighborhood with his telescope), and think through what I have said in the last 2 posts. Look in the mirror and talk to yourself. If you need a confessional, I can arrange for that too.

malik mian,

.... are you suggesting that george bush did it !? ...... isn't that stretching it a bit too far ? ...... and for god's sake don't tell me that you too believe that gw and the jews were responsible for 9/11 ! ...... if that's the case, i am afraid there is no point in talking about this any further - i am not a shrink ! ..... you need to talk to shankar ......

anyway, my second choice would be pervaiz elahi ... why? ... because he looks like a crook .... i know that sounds kind of silly, but it is as good a reason as any .... i just don't like the guy

p.s. by the way, i still bush's policy in iraq ....... we need to stay the course

Please take time to visit the gallary and decide what came first; egg or the chicken?

***correction in #41:

"Now that we have you admit that Bhutto's murder was not a conspiracy,"

should read

"Now that we have you admit that Bhutto's murder was probably not done by jihadis,"

thanks hamidullah! as the Bush presidency is wrapping up, you too are beginning to sober up from the intoxicating kool aid he was having you drink.

Now that we have you admit that Bhutto's murder was not a conspiracy, we need to right another wrong. Remember 9/11? Bush told us that al-qaeda did it. And he said so within a few minutes of it happening. And he continued to say so despite the mounting evidence to the contrary.

Its the same Bush who told you yesterday that BB was killed by al-qaeda. Not that I want to divert this thread into a tangent, but I would like you to think the following in the privacy of your home when urstruly is not looking:

1. Bush lied regarding WMD in iraq
2. Bush lied regarding nuclear weapons in Iran
3. Bush lied regarding BB's murder in pakistan

Could you please at least consider that Bush may have lied about who attacked on 9/11? Just think on your own. You dont have to tell us on chowk, because urstruly, bulleya, zeemax and others may just hurt your pride. And when all else is taken away from a man, his pride and his balls is all he's got.

just think about it on your own. thanks.

Re: # 38

look bubba, i think i have done my share of ranting and raving against the fauji foundation and the goons in khaki for years ... heck i even came up with the term 'goons in khaki' .... the fact of the matter is that we still have one choice in breakfast cereal .....but that still does not prove that musharraf killed bb as you and tahmed seem to be suggesting ....... or are you saying something else that i am missing .... you know that, unlike the sons of the moon god, i am a simple minded person ......

Re: # 37

malik mian,

.... i have already admitted my bias on the other board .... here is what i said :

.... based on what i have seen on tv and everything i have read so far, i have to say that it is more likely than not that she was killed by a bullet ..... for god's sake the gunman was barely six feet from her - how could he have missed (unless it was a miracle as in pulp fiction !) ....... but why would the government lie about it? ...... that i still don't understand ....... whether she was killed by a bullet or a lever, the fact remains that security was inadequate and she was assassinated ....... period ......

..... i will admit that because of my prejudice against jihadis and suiciders and other vermin, my knee jerk reaction is to blame the muslims ..... tahmed, obsessed with musharraf will blame mushy, zeemaxullah will blame the jews, masadi will blame the us elite, arjun will blame 160 million pakis, urstruly will blame the kanjaroon and cantonment dogs .... take your pick - i am sticking with the muslims until someone comes up with definitive proof .........

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..... so malik mian, who do you think did it ? ...... take your pick: musharraf, imran khan, pervaiz elahi, the horrible hindoos, the jews, the cia, altaph bhai, ksa, nathu's grandmother ...... tell me