Salim Chauhan December 29, 2007
#70 Posted by dullabhatti on December 31, 2007 12:23:48 am
bulleya is assuming that only people who are eligible to vote are capable of weeping.:-)
usually the people who stay away from the polls are divided along the poltiical lines very similar to the ones who voted.
if PP gets 30% of polled votes, with a margin of few percentage points, PPP has 30% of Pakistanis of any age as supporters regardless whether they voted or not.
It is a known fact that if the number of people polling in an election goes up, percentages going to various candidates change only marginally....BUT since most elections are decided by margins of 1-2%, it makes a lot of difference to electability of the candidates.
usually the people who stay away from the polls are divided along the poltiical lines very similar to the ones who voted.
if PP gets 30% of polled votes, with a margin of few percentage points, PPP has 30% of Pakistanis of any age as supporters regardless whether they voted or not.
It is a known fact that if the number of people polling in an election goes up, percentages going to various candidates change only marginally....BUT since most elections are decided by margins of 1-2%, it makes a lot of difference to electability of the candidates.
#69 Posted by PM on December 30, 2007 11:31:49 pm
You have to live within 200 meters of a site of a bonfire of private vehicles and, later, private businesses set up by purportedly angry mobs purportedly venting their anguish, to be able to see the sense in what Salim writes.
The muffuking mobs attacked Edhi Centres and amubulances, for crying out loud!!! If these are the awam for which democracy is being fought, please, I'll take the dictator anytime. And don't give me that shyte about how lack of democracy CAUSES these travesties.
The muffuking mobs attacked Edhi Centres and amubulances, for crying out loud!!! If these are the awam for which democracy is being fought, please, I'll take the dictator anytime. And don't give me that shyte about how lack of democracy CAUSES these travesties.
#68 Posted by krashid1961 on December 30, 2007 11:21:48 pm
Paki redneck:
Salim Chauhan Sahab what an apt description. It should become part of dictionary and apologetic of Killing of Pakistanis should be called Gumashte of Paki redneck.
Salim Chauhan Sahab what an apt description. It should become part of dictionary and apologetic of Killing of Pakistanis should be called Gumashte of Paki redneck.
#67 Posted by PM on December 30, 2007 11:20:00 pm
re. #52 Kamath:
"Yet I give her good marks as she dreamn of installing democracy single handed. "
There is democracy and then there is democracy. So she wanted an end of army rule, and the voice of the people to be heard.
Ah but wait... how much of this was merely self-serving? How much did the voice of the people count in the matter of her own party's (non) democratic make-up? How much did she do for her own peasantry awam in her own fiefdom in Larkana? Universal schooling? Hospitals? Surely she could easily afford it.
As okla99 said somewhere, Political parties in Pakistan are like drug gangs; Pakistan is the turf they fight for; and it's a given that lives will be lost now and then.
"Yet I give her good marks as she dreamn of installing democracy single handed. "
There is democracy and then there is democracy. So she wanted an end of army rule, and the voice of the people to be heard.
Ah but wait... how much of this was merely self-serving? How much did the voice of the people count in the matter of her own party's (non) democratic make-up? How much did she do for her own peasantry awam in her own fiefdom in Larkana? Universal schooling? Hospitals? Surely she could easily afford it.
As okla99 said somewhere, Political parties in Pakistan are like drug gangs; Pakistan is the turf they fight for; and it's a given that lives will be lost now and then.
#66 Posted by majumdar on December 30, 2007 11:00:51 pm
Nasah sahib,
(the budbukht Pakistanis of that perpetually self-demeaning land called Pakistan -- did not know what a precious jewel they got -- till they lost it -- and they lost it big.)
I presume u r referring to BB (and I presume people like MKG, ZAB, JLN, possibly even Indira and Rajiv wud be described as jewels). I hope it is our friends across the Radcliffe Line who are blessed with such jewels. I wud settle for a Gujarati Hanud bania version of MAJ (pbuh).
Regards
(the budbukht Pakistanis of that perpetually self-demeaning land called Pakistan -- did not know what a precious jewel they got -- till they lost it -- and they lost it big.)
I presume u r referring to BB (and I presume people like MKG, ZAB, JLN, possibly even Indira and Rajiv wud be described as jewels). I hope it is our friends across the Radcliffe Line who are blessed with such jewels. I wud settle for a Gujarati Hanud bania version of MAJ (pbuh).
Regards
#65 Posted by zensufi on December 30, 2007 10:11:34 pm
Someone said on the news the other day, that Pakistanis are very emotional people. I can comprehend that and I know that they are also very patriotic, but why the destructive chaos? I agree with you, Salim, that there was/is no need to plunder the city and innocent people in the name of mourning. Unity, Faith, and Discipline - the 3 talwar's I used to pass by often, seem to be just a symbol from the past. Pakistan mein na unity hai na discipline, magar bohut faith hai... destructive faith it seems.
-zensufi-
-zensufi-
#64 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on December 30, 2007 7:58:32 pm
Ally #54,
Kardesh Effendi, Nazilsinis,
Thank you for a very heart-warming and sensible message. I agree with you that our collective future lies in coming together as a people. That is exactly why hateful racist remarks like those made by Ghaleezloola BuRbuR and BB (God rest her soul!) are so pernicious to our nation. Even in her death, BB managed to divide us by ethnicity, just as she did when she compared Mohajirs to rats who escape to their hideouts rather than hang around and get shot like brave people.
Hopefully, people will hear your message and stop twisting the ears of the donkey just because they are upset at the dhobi.
Kardesh Effendi, Nazilsinis,
Thank you for a very heart-warming and sensible message. I agree with you that our collective future lies in coming together as a people. That is exactly why hateful racist remarks like those made by Ghaleezloola BuRbuR and BB (God rest her soul!) are so pernicious to our nation. Even in her death, BB managed to divide us by ethnicity, just as she did when she compared Mohajirs to rats who escape to their hideouts rather than hang around and get shot like brave people.
Hopefully, people will hear your message and stop twisting the ears of the donkey just because they are upset at the dhobi.
#63 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on December 30, 2007 7:48:57 pm
#55 bulleya {"if 100 people can vote, and only 33 vote......and out of those 33, 30% go to ppp, then what does that equal 30% of 33 is around 10, if my math is correct......and 10 is 10% of 100...... "}
So, Romair, just tell us very simply - how many of us will have to pay AMT for 2007?
So, Romair, just tell us very simply - how many of us will have to pay AMT for 2007?
#62 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on December 30, 2007 7:45:55 pm
#56 tvarad {"150 million or so Muslims in India who decide to stay and share it's joys and pains will attest to that."}
Tvarad,
Good point, but did you count the ones in Naroda Patya who are no longer around to attest to their share of joy and pain? :(
Tvarad,
Good point, but did you count the ones in Naroda Patya who are no longer around to attest to their share of joy and pain? :(
#61 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on December 30, 2007 7:43:15 pm
#58 arjun {"The new video grabs clearly show that benazir was shot. WTF is wrong with the paki government?"}
Arjun,
They are actually very smart. They are copying that lovable Minister of Information from Sadman Houston's regime. Yes, Baghdad Bob looked so amusingly stupid that they went easy on him when the Day of Reckoning came. :)
Arjun,
They are actually very smart. They are copying that lovable Minister of Information from Sadman Houston's regime. Yes, Baghdad Bob looked so amusingly stupid that they went easy on him when the Day of Reckoning came. :)
#60 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on December 30, 2007 7:39:31 pm
#53 hamidumdum2 {"as much as i like you and can never get mad at you, i must say that i pity the poor jackass that cariied you into town this morning "}
Hamidumdum Sahib,
You must be feeling sorry about Bubba the Paki redneck. :)
Hamidumdum Sahib,
You must be feeling sorry about Bubba the Paki redneck. :)
#59 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on December 30, 2007 7:31:27 pm
slodhi #50 {"I hope that people of Pak & India will soon get back together & form the United States of India & loose confedration of smaller states independent to run their own lives, with a centralised defense & foreign policy. Monetary policy can be centralised too but i will leave that to the future leaders of the states...
This will give India stability & wil be the answer to all the troubles India is facing today with many states wanting out."}
Lodhi Sahib,
WOW! :) Now, quickly hide before they unite only to shoot at you. :)
This will give India stability & wil be the answer to all the troubles India is facing today with many states wanting out."}
Lodhi Sahib,
WOW! :) Now, quickly hide before they unite only to shoot at you. :)
#58 Posted by arjun_ on December 30, 2007 7:29:58 pm
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#57 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on December 30, 2007 7:26:42 pm
#49 akhanusa {"Mr Chauhan,
We Indians offer our generosity, goodwill, arms extended in a warm welcome, and supreme affection for your ladies anytime.
Ciao"}
Akhanusa Sahib,
Thank you for your kind gesture. Unfortunately, ever since Meera spread the nasty rumor about you guys, there aren't many takers - except Aroosa Alam and two other ladies with very high mileage. :)
We Indians offer our generosity, goodwill, arms extended in a warm welcome, and supreme affection for your ladies anytime.
Ciao"}
Akhanusa Sahib,
Thank you for your kind gesture. Unfortunately, ever since Meera spread the nasty rumor about you guys, there aren't many takers - except Aroosa Alam and two other ladies with very high mileage. :)
#56 Posted by tvarad on December 30, 2007 7:03:05 pm
"The real intelligensia like Muhajirs have been totally marginalised They simply migrate to west or middle east.These epeople virtually created Pakistan sacrificed maximum N their leader Liaquat ali mysteroiusly shot in 1951 at the same place where BB was shot.This guy donated all his property including the his own magnificent residence worth crores at Tilak Marg in Delhi which houses Pakistan ambassadors residence(Jinnah cleverly sold his 10 Aurangzeb road house)but to what effect.To be shot like a dog and real culprits were never bought to book."
Don't blame the Sindhis or Punjabis or Pathans or whoever for Mohajiri problems. Mohajirs are "homeless" because they are always running away from imaginary booths and shaithans of their own creation. 150 million or so Muslims in India who decide to stay and share it's joys and pains will attest to that.
Don't blame the Sindhis or Punjabis or Pathans or whoever for Mohajiri problems. Mohajirs are "homeless" because they are always running away from imaginary booths and shaithans of their own creation. 150 million or so Muslims in India who decide to stay and share it's joys and pains will attest to that.
#55 Posted by bulleya on December 30, 2007 7:01:42 pm
anil #: "I cannot say about the weep, but there is certainly a leap. Are you not making an assumption that "voted" voters are uniformly distributed among "eligible" voters, and that 100% of PPP voted? Great leap, Romair."
if 1/3rd of the eligible voters vote, and ppp gets 1/3rd of that, then what percentage of votes does ppp get........
if 100 people can vote, and only 33 vote......and out of those 33, 30% go to ppp, then what does that equal 30% of 33 is around 10, if my math is correct......and 10 is 10% of 100......
if 1/3rd of the eligible voters vote, and ppp gets 1/3rd of that, then what percentage of votes does ppp get........
if 100 people can vote, and only 33 vote......and out of those 33, 30% go to ppp, then what does that equal 30% of 33 is around 10, if my math is correct......and 10 is 10% of 100......
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