Pakistan's Flawed and Feudal Princess

#245 Posted by hamidm2,

Read the Op-Ed of Kamran Shafi.

http://www.dawn.com/weekly/kamran/kamran.htm

Endpiece: The so-called intercept that the junta is touting as proof that Baitullah Mehsud ordered Benazir’s assassination is pure poppycock and nothing else. Mehsud is innocent enough to say to ‘Maulvi Sahib’: “I am at Makeen, come over, I am at Anwar Shah’s house�?!? And to ask “were they our men�? Er, if he ordered Benazir’s assassination he should know it was his men, what? I believe Baitullah; I do not believe the junta and its quite pathetic, lying minions. Baitullah did not kill Benazir.

The times are too fraught for any stupid Bushisms. Sorry.

Regards

#245 hamidm: Why not pick up those extra two pounds and er...round out...at 200? (sorry, couldnt resist that).

At my annual physical a couple of weeks ago, I told the doctor that I was planning to lose 10 pounds and become perfect - and instead of the expected applause, he laughed and said the concept of weight loss was easy, implementation was not. Now remind me why we pay these doctors... :-(

zeemax : see 246 and http://www.app.com.pk/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26150 &Itemid=2

Conspiracy theory?

Agree with it and start a campaign for it to know once and for all how she died.

#244 Posted by ferozk,

Could be, but the one presented to Scotland Yard is what is commonly called a Chinese TT. I don't think that is a 9mm.

Perhaps Pavocavalry could comment.

Benezair to be exhumed!

Musharuf wants the body out and a proper autopsy carried out so that people find out how she died.

Speaking to Newsweek magazine Pakistan President Pervez Mushraff was quoted as saying that he would want to call for the exhumation of former Pak Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto’s body and would want to lay to rest all allegations of government's involvement in Bhutto's assassination. However, he has ruled out ordering a post-mortem without the agreement of Bhutto's family.




go here to find the interview on video

http://www.findinternettv.com/Video,item,3574946106.aspx

anil mian,

..... if i lost forty pounds as you suggest, i would look like gandhi ji (god forbid!) ...... i haven't weighed that musch since they made me run and down the hills of kakul more than thirty years ago - the kids still laugh when they look at those pictures .... as a matter of fact they say that i looked like an emaciated indian and that i should have been in the indian army ! ...... astagfirullah ! ..... but i do appreciate your concern and have been eating sushi at least three times a week since the beginnig of this year .... and in keeping with the japanese tradition i have also been consuming two-three pints of beer to wash down the sushi! ..... i don't know how the japanese pull it off ....maybe it is because they don't eat biryani and gajar ka halwa on the weekends ....

..... anyway, this discussion about my weight and looks is a lot more interesting than the silly conspiracy theories about who killed bb ......

.........i like to think that it was the jihadis because it suits my world view; mad masadi thinks it was the rockefellers, because he is a dimwith suffering from sexual anxieties; tahmed thinks it was musharraf, because he is a prophet; zeemax thinks it was the cia-mossad-raw axis with the help of a parsi killer on the payroll of tata motors and funded by the mqm ......... why? because zeemax is a complex man who likes complex things .........

re: Zeemax

I have seen the footage, but it was blurred. Judging from it, though, the pistol looks like a 9mm.

Ciao

Re: # 241

Hasan saheb,

BB had certainly changed in last 5 years. She had re-invented herself post 9/11 as a modern muslim woman ready to take on these mullahs. She had also re-invented her own version of Islam for the modern world. If she had come to power the mullahs would certainly have been decimated.
I have no doubt.
The problem is that every one has to bear the fruits of their past karmas. Some how her past mistakes caught up and the demons she supported once came back to haunt her!!

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article3177691.ece

Ciao

"In all as a hindu idolator I believe BB 's survival would have been better for Indo-Pak communal relations because she would have completely eliminated the sarkari Jehadis as well."

Laddu miaN -- now can you hammer this profound paragraph of yours on the head of that Hindu non-idolater -- that "lever" guy, Arjun miaN -- who is having difficulty from his jag jag ever since....:)

#192 Posted by HP,

Thanks HP. I read the Ishtiaq Baig column. Why do you think PPP is promoting this theory (i.e. US involvement)?

BB clearly expressed her intentions to act against the sarkari Jehadis when she talked about how setting up madarassa in order to gather political power has turned into a business. The sarkari madarassas (mainly Punjabi) were increasingly getting jittery and it is these who have assasinated BB through the punjabi jehadis.

Hamid Gul , the ex-ISI army men, Mush and the Punjabi Mullahs have done this job. They cunnigly roped in the Al Qaeda to take the credit for this Jehadic success- when in reality it was a political move to eliminate BB from Pakistani politics!!!

Although BB did support Jehad earlier....she had considerably changed her position in the recent times.
We would have know the effect of that only if she was around in power, but it appears the Jehadis were really worried that her actual stance would be tougher than Mush's.

Mush plays the balancing game by killing some Jehadis who do not obey him and by supporting those Jehadis who obey and follow him . He is responsible for keeping the steady flow of sarkari jehadis intact. It is these sarkari jehadis who were obviously worried with BB's pronouncements.
That is why killing BB was more important to them - and Mush had his covert support to this sarakari Jehadi operation.
In all as a hindu idolator I believe BB 's survival would have been better for Indo-Pak communal relations because she would have completely eliminated the sarkari Jehadis as well.

I am dead sure it is these ex-ISI Jehadi leaders like Hamid Gul who has done it through the Al Qaeda- Taliban network he had established in PAkistan.
Mush know it and has his covert support. Now this support is overt in the press briefings. Hamid Gul and the ex-ISI are bent upon destroying PAkistan. Mush is part of the cover up because he also desired death to BB who through her un-relenting public support and international pressure made Mush step down.
Pakistani politics is deadly, murky and full of Islamic mafiaso operations.
Lahol!!!

Masadi sahib,

{{{That is why the US found it quite convenient, using the Pakistan Army (with whom it had a dual fulfillment of purpose in this) to get rid of the BB.}}}

Are you implying that it is the USA which got rid of BB? But this is being wiser after the event, isn't it? After all prior to BB's assassination you were always insisting that it wud be Mush who wud be got rid off with " a Hellfire shoved up his **** ". But as it is it was not Mush but BB who cud bumped off.

You have to admit, Masadi sahib, that for once you failed in your analysis.

Regards

anil: why is it so hard to acknowledge that you made assumptions about hamidm's height and persist in making that wrong assumption as you do in your post below? while i can understand masadi stonewalling, i expect you to be more open in acknowledging a mistake when it is brought to your attention.