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Pakistan's Flawed and Feudal Princess

William Dalrymple January 11, 2008

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#314 Posted by nkg on January 28, 2008 8:23:59 pm
Re: # 313
This is fake....
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#313 Posted by MeraPakistan on January 24, 2008 11:34:17 am
I found this picture of Benazir when she was in Oxford floating on the internet. I have shown this pic. to my professional photographer friend, he said that the picture is 99.9% genuine and it also seems to be real in my opinion. You people wanna give your feedback.

http://www.despardes.com/articles/sep06/20060908-bb-hameed.htm
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#312 Posted by nasah on January 20, 2008 9:02:07 am
"The challenge for the people is not to let Mohtarma’s supreme sacrifice go in vain. She died for the people and for their inalienable right to be the masters of their own destiny. Her mission must be accomplished. Let us focus on reverting to a genuine democratic order.

Democracy will be the best revenge for her tragic death."(Shamshad Ahmad - DAWN)

Indeed!
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#311 Posted by masadi on January 19, 2008 12:08:54 pm
Ras writes "She was a lot more than your view of her."

Slogans wont do, care to elaborate. She was no institution shatterer like her father, for her power and deal making were of greater importance, when she decided not to play she was very easily eliminated because she didn't understand that you never put your trust in the shaitan and its minions....
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#310 Posted by Ras on January 18, 2008 8:15:01 pm

RE: 307

She was a lot more than your view of her.

Just like her father she was betrayed.

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#309 Posted by ahmedmadani on January 18, 2008 5:48:24 pm
Re: # 305 Masadi what you have written is correct more than half words population has less than 1 dollar/ day.
I am told usa govt buys food from farmers and destroys and bury in dumps so there is scarity of food world wide and then they can charge more for food. I always wonder what is point in growing so much food and paying farmers and then destroying huge chuck so food goes costly and poor suffer. USA is NOT friend of Pakistan which BB did not appreciate and when there is scarity of wheat and aata etc in Karachi , usa can get real good reputation if they give wheat which they are destroying. Some times usa govt actions are strange to understand , they gave over 1 billion dollrs to army instead if they donatede say 200 million dollars worth of whaet mr. Bush can get good wishes but they will not do but burn wheat to warm water. USA is strange country.
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#308 Posted by ahmedmadani on January 18, 2008 5:37:22 pm
Re: # 306 Can Muslim or muslima can parctice Yoga which is "purely religious Indian stuff". Western up bringing destroy elemental religious taching and basics and leads to sublime liberal thinking and Shaitan controlling mind. GOI is smart has started pushing Gandhi( his movie), yoga, mediation and non veg food with catchy propaganda- what is steak it is dead killed animals and animals are friends and friends do not eat friends, Hare krishna movement.It was shocking to read two times of Prime Minister Pakistan followed induian cult like yoga and copy muscle action of animals like cat. dogs, snake and what not.Things are changing too much for old person like me.
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#307 Posted by masadi on January 18, 2008 5:23:02 pm
Ras mian enough with the BB worship, she was coming through for the people at the very end that is about all, through the rest of her political career she became part of undoing the great work of her father. In fact she was not smart enough not to put her trust in the Shaitan that got rid of her in the end nor the mini shaitan she married...
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#306 Posted by Ras on January 18, 2008 5:13:37 pm


To give William's poor article a sendoff on CHOWK...

From The News International (Jang Group) today.


A ruler of hearts

Saturday, January 19, 2008
Dr Javaid Laghari

My friend, my sister, my mentor, my leader, I was fortunate to be associated with her, leading a university named after her father, of which she was the chancellor. Having the privilege of travelling with her around the world, I wish to share her unique leadership qualities.

What is the difference between a politician and a leader? A politician asks for sacrifices, a leader gives one. She gave the ultimate sacrifice for her nation. One does not need power to be a leader. A leader needs followers, and she had plenty of them, even when out of power. How many prime ministers, presidents and generals can claim that? Power does not make leaders. History and followers do.

Determined to succeed and deliver the agenda of moderation and reform, she had the drive to put Pakistan onto the right track. Far bolder than any male leader, she told the Afghan president hours before her tragic assassination on December 27 that "life and death is in the hands of Allah, and that is why I have the courage to stare in the eyes of death without any fear."

Her star power and striking beauty made her more charismatic than Princess Diana and John Kennedy combined. Her sophistication and diplomacy established a large network of friends and admirers around the world. At the World Political Forum in Italy in 2003, when she walked into the conference hall, almost forty world leaders stood up and applauded her. She would stop a conversation or an activity just by walking into a room. She lectured regularly at universities globally where she would dazzle a large audience.

Intelligent, wise, well-educated and well-read, her favourite shopping at airports were bestsellers, autobiographies, history and leadership books. Within minutes she would devour every newspaper on a flight. Her photogenic memory would remember every meeting and everyone by name. She was a genius and a decision maker. While others would fumble for weeks strategizing party policies, she would analyze the situation within seconds and come up with a creative solution and new directives. When reflecting over disagreements, time would tell she was always right. Her other interests in life included feng shui, astrology, health and nutrition. A talking computer and walking encyclopaedia, she had multi-tasking abilities. Very well-organized, disciplined, and punctual, she could bring any management guru to shame. She spent countless hours on the PC and the blackberry. Working with her on the election manifesto, each document was ripped apart with ink. The final manifesto is a full credit to her creative abilities, spelling out the five Es: employment, education, energy, environment and equality.

Empathetic, compassionate, generous and kind, she supported hundreds of desperate individuals and families around the country, people unknown or heard of, except through an email received. Once she received an email from a critical patient with six unmarried daughters, requesting a major hospital expense. With tears in her eyes, she opened her purse and asked to see the money reached its destination. I have witnessed tears in her eyes when talking of the assassination of her father and two brothers, and of the plight of the poor.

Hospitable and caring, she would remember her friends, relatives and admirers wherever she was and send them gifts regularly. I recall once in Germany, our attendant driver was stunned to receive the same gift from her which she had asked him to help choose for someone else.

A strong believer of reconciliation, she would forgive and forget. Many have accused her wrongly of adopting this policy of forgiving her father's killers, and recently of reconciling with the existing setup, but for democracy she believed in healing hearts and forging unity. She was not vengeful. One can now see this reflection in Bilawal when in his first public address to the media after his mother's assassination he stated that "democracy is the best revenge".

When at home, she would exclusively dedicate her time to her children--discussing their interests in life as well as relating her own experiences. She would spend weekends with her family as well and take care of her ailing mother. Spiritual and pious, she offered prayers, did walks, practised yoga, went shopping and had a craving for chocolate and ice cream.

She was a jewel in the crown, a royalty who ruled hearts. This country will never be the same without her, at least for this generation. Bibi is gone but her legacy will continue.



The writer is vice-president of SZABIST and a PPP senator. Email: jlaghari@gmail.com.
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#305 Posted by masadi on January 17, 2008 3:15:50 pm
chalta writes "Human life spans, wealth, health have all gotten better since wwII"

BS we have argued this before, neither the wealth in the possession of the vast majority nor life expectancy nor health have increased for the very vast majority, more people are dying today unnecessarily than ever before in the history of the world, wealth disparity is at an all time high with a tiny elite possessing more wealth than whole continent full of people. Half the world fully 50% lives on less than $2 a day, with a large percent of them on less than $1 a day. What fools BS world of US propaganda are you living in?
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#304 Posted by masadi on January 17, 2008 3:13:26 pm
tahmed writes " You on the other hand make up convenient stories and accusations as you come to chowk to spread your misery by abusing, lying, accusing anyone who challenges your absurd attempts at demonizing the US."

Nonsense, whenever I accuse this demon of anything I back it up with facts. Because of this shaitan we have to live in a world full of misery where the few rule. Regarding whose payroll you're on, you sure as hell act as in your groveling as if you were on their payroll, you defend the bastards with your life and honor. Regarding your retirement, it is no secret here. You have thus far not been able to refute anything I have said because what I say are facts open for all to see, for example take your absurd contention that the US is an "open society" when it is the most higly rule rigged and regulated society where the little guy is kept in check and control through a thousand ways while its elite are free to do what they want the world over in their mad rampage...

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#303 Posted by tahmed32 on January 17, 2008 4:54:50 am
#300 masadi: "I present facts to back up all my assertions, facts that you cannot handle."

No you dont. Your posts below are a pack of lies as is usual for you. You made the false accusation that I was on the US payroll (with the obvious implication that I the reason I challenge your attempts at demonizing the US is because I get paid to spend my time doing that), and when challenged quickly changed your story to say I used to be on the US payroll before I retired!! How do you know I am retired? How do you know I was "on the US payroll"? OF course you pulled these out of thin air.

I try to base what I write on what I know and no more. You on the other hand make up convenient stories and accusations as you come to chowk to spread your misery by abusing, lying, accusing anyone who challenges your absurd attempts at demonizing the US.
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#302 Posted by arjun_4 on January 16, 2008 11:17:23 pm
#299 Posted by masadi on January 16, 2008 12:17:47 pm


that was for building and library purposes


and with your own copy of C. Wright Mills and karl marx, you never have to step into the library anyway...
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#301 Posted by chaltahai on January 16, 2008 4:55:03 pm
Masadi, you are wrong on every count...the only people decrying the us led global growth are islamists and closet communists. You are the love child of the two....and frankly an exceptionally poor quality product at that.

Human life spans, wealth, health have all gotten better since wwII. The idiotic socialistic policies of the soviets and indians and chinese made their citizens poor.hungry, sick and wanting to be more like America. It is the model that has proven it works. That is why BRICs are booming while you are spooning the carcass of a dead nobody like Cw mills.
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#300 Posted by masadi on January 16, 2008 12:19:55 pm
tahmed " that says nothing about the US."

It does say a lot about the US, the personification of all that is evil in humanity, and all that is barbarous and murderous on a global level...
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#299 Posted by masadi on January 16, 2008 12:17:47 pm
tahmed writes "while you can parrot mullah terrorists in calling the US a shaitan - that says nothing about the US."

I present facts to back up all my assertions, facts that you cannot handle. Further I have never received a single dime from the shaitan, you have been before your retirement...I do not work for any institution currently that receives funding from US aid, even when I did I was being paid out of student fees and not US aid period, that was for building and library purposes only and not for paying faculty.
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