Pukhtoon Khan January 13, 2008
#23 Posted by edgeNRidge on January 18, 2008 9:00:20 am
Another fine example of lazy intellectualism!
The author finds convenient scapegoats while COMPLETELY overlooking the underlying factors that contribute to Pakistan's problems today. I wouldn't exclude author's latent racism against mohajirs either.
PPP had a prime minister for several years and she didn't contribute to Pakistan's problem? Anyone heard of Mr. 10%?
The author finds convenient scapegoats while COMPLETELY overlooking the underlying factors that contribute to Pakistan's problems today. I wouldn't exclude author's latent racism against mohajirs either.
PPP had a prime minister for several years and she didn't contribute to Pakistan's problem? Anyone heard of Mr. 10%?
#22 Posted by masadi on January 15, 2008 12:18:36 pm
in #21 read "In the meantime take a hike and don't try to an apologist for tahmed and his chaprasee" as
In the meantime take a hike and don't try to be an apologist for tahmed and his chaprasee
In the meantime take a hike and don't try to be an apologist for tahmed and his chaprasee
#21 Posted by masadi on January 15, 2008 12:17:40 pm
janoo writes "Your insulting language does not prove you a brave man, instead, it proves you to be stupid. "
Absolutely nothing in my post proves me to be "stupid". When you can bring more than a couple other posters that can make points of my calibre then we can talk. In the meantime take a hike and don't try to an apologist for tahmed and his chaprasee- the chaprasee job is filled already so you don't need apply...
Absolutely nothing in my post proves me to be "stupid". When you can bring more than a couple other posters that can make points of my calibre then we can talk. In the meantime take a hike and don't try to an apologist for tahmed and his chaprasee- the chaprasee job is filled already so you don't need apply...
#20 Posted by masadi on January 15, 2008 12:16:00 pm
janoo writes "It could be your language that makes them what they do."
Not a chance. I have been called all names in the book by these very idiots and even after being redflagged they have not been banned. On the other hand even my mild language, like the word fool, or monkey gets me banned- the reason being my ideas that these peons of the West cannot tolerate...
Not a chance. I have been called all names in the book by these very idiots and even after being redflagged they have not been banned. On the other hand even my mild language, like the word fool, or monkey gets me banned- the reason being my ideas that these peons of the West cannot tolerate...
#19 Posted by Faisal.K on January 15, 2008 11:45:11 am
very interesting points Khan sahab :)
to me the Mullahs are the worst..but i shall leave that to another day.
to me the Mullahs are the worst..but i shall leave that to another day.
#18 Posted by janoo on January 15, 2008 6:52:14 am
[As you all can see, tahmed and his chaprasee have redflagged my post to get me banned for no reason yet once again]- #14.
masadi saheb,
There is always a reason. Nothing happens without a reason. It could be your language that makes them what they do. you could be polite for a change and see what happens instead of calling names on an anon site.Your insulting language does not prove you a brave man, instead, it proves you to be stupid.
masadi saheb,
There is always a reason. Nothing happens without a reason. It could be your language that makes them what they do. you could be polite for a change and see what happens instead of calling names on an anon site.Your insulting language does not prove you a brave man, instead, it proves you to be stupid.
#17 Posted by Ras on January 14, 2008 8:24:59 pm
Khan Sahib,
We had barely become used to the Three "A"s and now you
jump in with four "M"s!
Interesting reading.
#16 Posted by masadi on January 14, 2008 4:47:59 pm
The dog ugly Jabba the Hut (h2) and his sidekick the R2d(T)32 both singing the praises of the white man who considers them shit, and that also at the expense of our people. Pathetic fools but unfortunately their kinds of slaves and sons of slaves are abundant in our country especially the military's top leadership, that is why its pathetic shape, and the misery of our people.
#15 Posted by masadi on January 14, 2008 4:45:09 pm
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#13 Posted by NangaPir on January 14, 2008 4:31:41 pm
I think Pushtoonistan is in the making. You can see all those Pathans are boycotting the elections except those on the hit list like Sherpao. Achkzai sitting with Qazi and Hamid Gul with Afrasiab Khattak. What else do you need for nationalism? The CIA/ISI/Mohajirs think Pushtoons are basically terrorists and they pose a threat to nukes. Nukes are the best blackmailing chip in army's store. So they have planned to make Punjabi army to fight to death to defend Mohajir/western interests. Pathans refused to fight in Swat and Waziristan. The new borders along river Indus will basically keep the Pushtoons westward. The next battle ground is between these two groups and that is what Balkanization will happen in the next decade. However, tribes living elsewhere in mountains may jump on the bandwagon and we will see an interesting scenario.
#12 Posted by nasah on January 14, 2008 4:24:17 pm
Re: # 8
This M is in trouble -- by the A one --"ISLAMABAD: Military officers, including corps commanders and senior generals, cannot meet President Pervez Musharraf without the army chief’s consent" -- beginning of the re-professionalization the Pakistan Army.
Besides, If the M coass can declare emergency the K COAS can also declare the emergency -- on the basis of an 'illegal' precedence -- depose the the fake president -- put him under house arrest -- cut the phone lines -- and give the house key to that double A, Aitzaz Ahsan -- to give the M a taste of his own M-edicine -- restore the real Supreme Court -- reinstate the real judges -- send the PCO (Pervez Corporation Orderlies) judges to Re-education Capms for a crash course of Pakistan Constitution -- re-elect a new legislature in a truly fair not colored -- and a truly free-of-M Election -- that in turn elects a new civil(ized) president -- remove the 'Emergency' and go back to barracks being a regular COAS for a regular army for the regular 3 years -- Not NINE years!
How many budding COAS careers this greedy Nine Year 'old' coass has ruined!
This M is in trouble -- by the A one --"ISLAMABAD: Military officers, including corps commanders and senior generals, cannot meet President Pervez Musharraf without the army chief’s consent" -- beginning of the re-professionalization the Pakistan Army.
Besides, If the M coass can declare emergency the K COAS can also declare the emergency -- on the basis of an 'illegal' precedence -- depose the the fake president -- put him under house arrest -- cut the phone lines -- and give the house key to that double A, Aitzaz Ahsan -- to give the M a taste of his own M-edicine -- restore the real Supreme Court -- reinstate the real judges -- send the PCO (Pervez Corporation Orderlies) judges to Re-education Capms for a crash course of Pakistan Constitution -- re-elect a new legislature in a truly fair not colored -- and a truly free-of-M Election -- that in turn elects a new civil(ized) president -- remove the 'Emergency' and go back to barracks being a regular COAS for a regular army for the regular 3 years -- Not NINE years!
How many budding COAS careers this greedy Nine Year 'old' coass has ruined!
#11 Posted by masadi on January 14, 2008 4:23:43 pm
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#10 Posted by HP on January 14, 2008 3:53:59 pm
2.MQM (mis-representing Indian Muhajirs)
3 Muslim League (representing the opportunists of Punjab)
I think for the purpose of this article the first M was good enough. 1 Musharraf (representing Military)
2 and 3 really have no impact on the situation in Pakistan.
MQM represents a minority in Sindh. Mohajir or the urdu speaking no matter what they might think about their importance(and they think more than they should!) don’t figure prominently in the larger Pakistani politics.
Qatil League is as good as Army wants to make it so is the situation with MQM.
They are both qurbani ka dunmba!
4 Mullah (represented by MMA)
Heheheh… they don’t mean much except that JI is the other name for alqaeeda.
3 Muslim League (representing the opportunists of Punjab)
I think for the purpose of this article the first M was good enough. 1 Musharraf (representing Military)
2 and 3 really have no impact on the situation in Pakistan.
MQM represents a minority in Sindh. Mohajir or the urdu speaking no matter what they might think about their importance(and they think more than they should!) don’t figure prominently in the larger Pakistani politics.
Qatil League is as good as Army wants to make it so is the situation with MQM.
They are both qurbani ka dunmba!
4 Mullah (represented by MMA)
Heheheh… they don’t mean much except that JI is the other name for alqaeeda.
#9 Posted by nasah on January 14, 2008 3:27:05 pm
Re: # 2
"Interestingly many Hanud Injuns believe that India is being done in by four Ms too- Marxists, Mullahs, Missionaries and Macaulayites."(majumdar)
majumdar saib -- what happened to the 5th 'M' -- the Modis...? Did you forget these M fakars or they did not deserve the august list?
"Interestingly many Hanud Injuns believe that India is being done in by four Ms too- Marxists, Mullahs, Missionaries and Macaulayites."(majumdar)
majumdar saib -- what happened to the 5th 'M' -- the Modis...? Did you forget these M fakars or they did not deserve the august list?
#8 Posted by blithe on January 14, 2008 11:48:22 am
Good succinct article but could even be more succinct. One M(Musharraf) is the root cause of our problems, the others are merely tools.
#7 Posted by Urstruly on January 14, 2008 8:55:40 am
The list of M's is quite accurate but it is missing one very important L. The name of this group can also start with another M, but I do not think Chowk's policy will allow it to print. This "L" stands for the Liberal Fascists. While all other M's are just charlatans or as it is called "Lotas" in urdu, but liberal fascists are the one who had been and are the ideological allies of this vicious dictator. Unfortunately Liberal Fascists are armed with higher education and have quite a clout in the media, propaganda machinery, and the NGOs etc. just like Lotus Eaters, their job is to misguide the common public. They are the first line soldiers of the global colonialism, whose job is to prepare the minds of people for an eternal slavery. In the name of the so called "Enlightened Moderation" they are the one who tried to convince everyone that the real democarcy is one in which fouj is on top, and why it is necassary that this vicious, incompetent, and corrupt dictator should stay on top. They are the one whose hands are red with the blood of Pakistani citizens; whether it is the Islamabad School massacre or the gencocide of Pakistani citizens in Baluchistan, Waziristan, and Swat. They are not only an accessory to the murder and crime against the people of Pakistan but they are the one who through their false propaganda create monsters out of innocent human beings to jsutify their crime. They are the one who are the true M's here.
#6 Posted by tahir on January 14, 2008 8:49:29 am
You said:
The worst case scenario is a nightmare – a situation wherein the nuclear weapons will be in the hands of religious extremists who were politically represented by MMA, trained by ISI and taught by JUI’s demagogues in the past. It will be a disastrous situation wherein the whole region will depict a picture of ashes if the rule of these M's continues.
I say:
The Yankees and it's monkeys are selling exactly THIS to the scared public. Why would our forces see their own shop closed? They would never allow their stool pigeons to fly that high! The birds produce bird droppings only when ordered. Now think again.
The worst case scenario is a nightmare – a situation wherein the nuclear weapons will be in the hands of religious extremists who were politically represented by MMA, trained by ISI and taught by JUI’s demagogues in the past. It will be a disastrous situation wherein the whole region will depict a picture of ashes if the rule of these M's continues.
I say:
The Yankees and it's monkeys are selling exactly THIS to the scared public. Why would our forces see their own shop closed? They would never allow their stool pigeons to fly that high! The birds produce bird droppings only when ordered. Now think again.
#5 Posted by rf786 on January 14, 2008 7:26:03 am
Nothing new, writer is simply venting frustration and Chowk staff are obliging.
#4 Posted by chaltahai on January 14, 2008 6:18:59 am
What is the need for this article? Manto and others have alluded to this for years now. Either come up with a solution or stop suggesting the obvious.
#3 Posted by MantoLives on January 14, 2008 4:11:10 am
Excellent Article... but I beg to differ ... as someone whose family has been in politics for 80 years first in the Muslim League and then in the PPP... on your description of the Punjab Unionist Party Reincarnated as Muslim League.
The name Muslim League is a convenient legitimising tag that the Military ruler uses to legitimise his in vogue version of Punjab Unionist Party incarnated.
The real Muslim League died the day the erstwhile Unionists (under the banner of the Establishment's "Republican Party") banned and crushed it.
#2 Posted by majumdar on January 14, 2008 3:13:10 am
Khan sahib,
Interestingly many Hanud Injuns believe that India is being done in by four Ms too- Marxists, Mullahs, Missionaries and Macaulayites. I tend to agree with their diagnosis on the first three but being a "Peon of the West" type person strongly disagree with on the fourth being a bad type. Without Macaualy sahib, we Injuns still wud have been junglees.
Btw, it was interesting to see you quote Mr. CWM, I thought that Masadi sahib was the only one who had heard of the guy, but it seems that he is rather more well-known.
Regards
Interestingly many Hanud Injuns believe that India is being done in by four Ms too- Marxists, Mullahs, Missionaries and Macaulayites. I tend to agree with their diagnosis on the first three but being a "Peon of the West" type person strongly disagree with on the fourth being a bad type. Without Macaualy sahib, we Injuns still wud have been junglees.
Btw, it was interesting to see you quote Mr. CWM, I thought that Masadi sahib was the only one who had heard of the guy, but it seems that he is rather more well-known.
Regards
#1 Posted by laddu on January 14, 2008 12:12:03 am
Simple commonsense solution to defang all these-
declare Pakistan as a Secular , Democratic, Liberal State.
De-recognize political parties with Religious agendas.
declare Pakistan as a Secular , Democratic, Liberal State.
De-recognize political parties with Religious agendas.
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