The Dirty Tricks Brigade Tries to Spoil a Party

hamidm2 mian #: ".... would you have left the nazis alone in the hope that they would become civilized on their own ?...... "

hmm....nazis initiated into ww ii in 1939....us entered in on 7th dec, 1941.....if my history is correct, it was after the japanese attacked pearl harbor...

so for more than two years, the nazis were left alone, "in the hope that they would become civilized on their own"......as were the japanese.......and the italians...

the largest conflict of present day, if my history is correct, is in congo....the death toll is in millions......i haven't seen the us govt. having too many problems about it......when is it planning to invade congo to civilize it?.......

......the usa, at least in its foreign policy, is on the same road as the nazis......the number of people it has killed is reaching nazi levels.....which is my point......and which is why it is our responsibility, based on the rules described by you, to stop killings by the usa.......i am sure nazis had their own version of rush limbaugh and hamidm2, who used the logic provided by you...

stopping the obl's etc. is not too hard.....they will fall apart, the moment some of these political conflicts are solved, and the us stops backing the dictators......

as i keep saying, americans need to concentrate on enjoying their ipods, and letting everyone else live......specially since, the us has over-extended itself, and may start running out of ipods, if the usa does not limit its shenanigans.....

.....usa is already firing its bank ceo's who are now begging arabs for capital...........

Re: # 235

romair,

.... would you have left the nazis alone in the hope that they would become civilized on their own ?...... we cannot afford to leave totalitarian ideologies like nazism, communism and islam alone in this day of atom bums and flying planes ..... and who says you cannot civilize people - germans, japanese and koreans are good world citizens ......... i know muslims are a harder nut to crack, but they too can be whipped into shape or completely destroyed - take your pick .......

hamidm2 mian #:"..... i still support the iraq war - i just don't like the half hearted approach ......"

...this is alright, as you are already a consultant in the auto industry, and hence cannot do any damage, beyond chowk.....however, farid and john can do a lot of damage.....

there was no half-hearted approach.....$80 billion/year is not a half-hearted approach!.......it is a hell of a lot.....if you remember, i had always said that no war against a population is ever successful.....usa could have pumped in 400,000 soldiers with $160 billion/year, it would have been the same......

india had no success in kashmir with 700,000 soldiers.....soviets had no success in afghanistan, despite having a common border, even after killing 1 million people......

"personally i support the division of iraq with permanent us bases in kurdistan as in korea .... like israel, let's make kurdistan a beacon of light in that dark desert of ignorance ......."

hmm...israel a beacon of light......if you (or i) are ever blown up, along with the city of new york, someday, i think the unravelling of the whole event will lead back to israel/palestine conflict.....i certainly have no interest in getting blown up......

let israel become a beacon of light on its own.......

as for kurdistan, the day it declares independence, is the day turkey will invade fully.......once again, i had mentioned that turkey would be in a state of war, with iraq, after this invasion.......

so, you have palestinians and israelis fighting......shias, sunnis and kurds fighting in iraq.....afghans and pakistanis fighting in waziristan........now you want to start a turk/kurd war in kurdistan.......

how about a better idea......let the countries become civilized on their own.....why don't the americans simply enjoy their ipods and iphones and the new air notebook, within their own borders......they can get cheap oil from arabs and have fun......live and let live....

Re: # 224

romair mian,

..... i still support the iraq war - i just don't like the half hearted approach ...... personally i support the division of iraq with permanent us bases in kurdistan as in korea .... like israel, let's make kurdistan a beacon of light in that dark desert of ignorance ....... it is america's duty to spread civilization .......

Writter sahiba
In my fair pov, PPP should nominate some capable person like Aitza hussan for the PM ship and also for chairmanship, if, PPP reaaly wishes to revive and survive....b/c zardari as usual doing his special dirty tricks as well to undermine BB's excellent and brave efforts to regain democracy in pakistan and to dismantle army's dictatorship.

Zardari is the most hatred person by majority of Pakistanis and who is Bilawal btw? This is not dynasty....Bilawal ot to prove his worth as a politician in future...Zardari already got NO charisma and No character at all, his character is Mr. 10% and he is the reason for the down fall of BB and everybody knows that....I think Zardari should be thrown out of PPP.......why majority PPP workers seem helpless now infront of this crook corrupt and incompetent zardari? the badmash...

Also, why not Fatima Bhutto? the girl has charisma and character as well, she has already proven her worth by expressing her thoughts multiple times via her columns, she got the real political genes and a polished personality......

#230 Posted by ahmedmadani on January 18, 2008 4:37:46 pm


Please read many comments by YLH in this matters.


I'll get around to it..I'm still digesting his "orascom" is a paki company post...

Re: # 229
Masasdi , your adjective "sellout" tells all.
Thanks for telling as it is.We have no shortage of this sellouts and peons.
Have good day

Re: # 225 Arjun what romair is saying right most are telling here they have prenomotion of rigging.
Elections can be clean ,Please keep in mind in india and pakistan getting votes is not important counting is more important and there will magic by powers to be.
India is not democracy it is drama/Gimmick of democracy. Please read many comments by YLH in this matters.

From the producers of "Don't taze me bro", to the Howard Dean shreik, to Huckabee talking about Pakistanis sneaking across the Mexico border, to the BS of the Clintons, to Tancredo's nonsense, every four years we see the "maturity" of the US politicians and then we have this sellout Zakaria having the audacity to talk about the maturity of the Pakistani politicians. Man, these US monkeys in the political process bring to shame the red assed baboons around the globe- next time they talk about political maturity think of these a$$ wipes.

HP mian you need to return to the homeland. I am trying to save you and your future generations from this miserable existance in the swamp hole....give me some goddamned credit...

#214 Posted by zeemax on January 18, 2008 8:54:20 am


There's a story of the frog and the boiling water:
This applies to the Kanjars. These are the frogs


What if you use artillery and mortars on the frogs? or maybe a "glock rifle" with a "locking laser scope"?

100 militants killed in South Waziristan

RAWALPINDI (Agencies) - At least 100 militants were killed in South Waziristan during bloody clashes between security forces and miscreants on Friday.
Miscreants started engaging Ladha Fort with small arms and rockets at 10:00am, according to an ISPR Press release.
A large number of miscreants started gathering around north of the Fort at 3:00pm. The security forces used artillery, mortars and small arms fire to engage the miscreants.
Reportedly, 50-60 miscreants were killed and rest of them dispersed. The security forces suffered no casualty.
An ISPR spokesman told that in the second incident that took place at 12:30pm, a convoy of security forces moving on Jandola-Wana Road was fired upon from Chaghmalai with small arms and rockets.
Security forces retaliated and engaged militants with small arms and rockets. The firefight continued for one hour.

#224 Posted by bulleya on January 18, 2008 12:20:11 pm

whatever zakaria's faults, he wasn't in iraq after the 2003 invasion selling t-shirts with US flags...

#225 Posted by bulleya on January 18, 2008 12:31:48 pm


- elections will be held, but will be massively rigged


WHOA...elections in pureland will be rigged!! you don't say!!

heard an interesting theory:....

- elections will be held, but will be massively rigged......musharraf will get the new parliament to grant him indemnity.......

after this, riots will occur, becuase of the people's anger against the rigging.....new elections will be held, and a new parliament will be sworn in.....

hamidm2 mian: "zakaria is one of two americans who understands foreign policy - john mccain is the other ...... i think we can get to critical mass if we get these two together!"

...wasn't zakaria the one cheering the americans into iraq......and isn't mccain the one who feels even more should be sent......

zakaria knows more than the other fools in the republic party who comment on foreign policy......probably becuause, unlike other americans, he has, acutally, seen things outside the usa......but, that isn't saying much....in my opinion, anyone who pushed usa into iraq should call it quits and turn to consulting in the auto industry......

the american who understands foreign policy is bill clinton.....you should listen to the speeches he makes to foreign audiences......they are quite different from the ones he has to make to naive americans.....anyone who can say that khatami of iran and him have a lot in common, and then justify it, is a genius......and my guess is hillary has more access to him than anyone else (other than paula jones and monica)....

until the republic party gets its head out of its ass, and stops making its decisions based on the popular support of the christian right, whose main foreign policy logic is based on their belief that the second coming of christ is not going to occur, until jews control all of the middle east, the republic party is never going to get out of the woods......

(the same christian right, will, then take out the jews, since they are the ones who put christ on the cross).....

Farid Zakaria "But it is also possible that Pakistan's political class might surprise us with its maturity."


There are two possibilities x and y, x is more probable than y but y is possible and might well be the surprise. And then they tell us that this fool, Zakaria is a goddamned genius....Like I said he doesn't have a clue, he is just rewording mainstream bs in new words mixing that with the obvious byproducts of the recent Musharraf actions.

Re: # 208 Hamidm2

"...please appoint fareed zakaria as secretary of state ..."

Hamidm2, how will that fit with your belief in the J-Man? The Zakaria family had political views that were diametrically opposite from J-Man's. Daddy Zakaria was closely associated with India's freedom movement and the Indian National Congress party. Not to mention that he was the Deputy Leader of the Congress Party under Indira Gandhi.