Beena Sarwar January 15, 2008
#189 Posted by jayp on January 17, 2008 11:23:03 pm
Educated pakistani
1. A highly educated pakistani, a mid level executive at Citi Bank was made the finance minister and then the prime minister of pakistan. With a dictatorial rule he could have done anything for teh good of pakistan. He did not add a single KW of power generation capacity during his 8 years in power. Was he educated or simply schooled.
2. Pak railways imports diesel engines from China after several technical evaluations. The last major crash of teh train was because teh engines were too heavy for teh tracks. Now the tracks have to be changed to use the engines. The spcialists, teh engineers who reviewed the engine, where they educated or schooled.
3. Hardly any of the pak interactors on chowk appear to be educated. It is these educated pakistanis, they are the bane of pakistan.
1. A highly educated pakistani, a mid level executive at Citi Bank was made the finance minister and then the prime minister of pakistan. With a dictatorial rule he could have done anything for teh good of pakistan. He did not add a single KW of power generation capacity during his 8 years in power. Was he educated or simply schooled.
2. Pak railways imports diesel engines from China after several technical evaluations. The last major crash of teh train was because teh engines were too heavy for teh tracks. Now the tracks have to be changed to use the engines. The spcialists, teh engineers who reviewed the engine, where they educated or schooled.
3. Hardly any of the pak interactors on chowk appear to be educated. It is these educated pakistanis, they are the bane of pakistan.
#188 Posted by jayp on January 17, 2008 11:16:16 pm
The true nature of pak soldiers.
In pakistan people join the military enamored by the wealth and influence of the generals and hoping that they can get a share of it, however minute. The training and the work they do, helping the jihadis, running WAPDA etc eventually creates a mind set that to be in the military is to enjoy power and and have an easy life.
That is why the military, para military...you name it are surrendering and or abandoning their posts, because they never thought that they will have to fight.
A few colnels and 200 troops surrendered to a few rag tag jihadis. Now two camps have been over run, manned by the para military, simply because the army will not dare to move.
Where is YLH with the Chuck Jaeger comments. Finally there is a situation, people hate the military and the military knows that they can only deal with un-armed civilians.
No Pakistani, no educated pakistani wants to accept the reality. Pak army has only surrendered, the 1947 kashmir invasion was carried out by the tribals, and now they are invading pakistan.
In pakistan people join the military enamored by the wealth and influence of the generals and hoping that they can get a share of it, however minute. The training and the work they do, helping the jihadis, running WAPDA etc eventually creates a mind set that to be in the military is to enjoy power and and have an easy life.
That is why the military, para military...you name it are surrendering and or abandoning their posts, because they never thought that they will have to fight.
A few colnels and 200 troops surrendered to a few rag tag jihadis. Now two camps have been over run, manned by the para military, simply because the army will not dare to move.
Where is YLH with the Chuck Jaeger comments. Finally there is a situation, people hate the military and the military knows that they can only deal with un-armed civilians.
No Pakistani, no educated pakistani wants to accept the reality. Pak army has only surrendered, the 1947 kashmir invasion was carried out by the tribals, and now they are invading pakistan.
#187 Posted by ijaz_gul on January 17, 2008 8:22:38 pm
'exaggerated threat perception versus Exaggerated Indispensibility' was my thesis on which a University in Turkey held a Seminar. I repaste a para.
C. Cem OÄžUZ
Pakistan's Gen. Pervez Musharraf's highly controversial actions since Nov.3 have caused remarkable discontent both inside Pakistan and among the international community. It is actually widely believed that his move basically stemmed from his fear that the Supreme Court was about to declare his re-election while in uniform unconstitutional. Musharraf, in turn, justified his actions by pointing to the deterioration of law and order in the country. In response to growing international criticism, on the other hand, he presented the measures he took as part of his attempts to save the country from the menace of terrorism. The enigma henceforth should be, as posed by analyst Ijaz Gul, whether Musharraf has in fact become “a victim of his exaggerated threat perception or exaggerated indispensability.�
http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=91051
C. Cem OÄžUZ
Pakistan's Gen. Pervez Musharraf's highly controversial actions since Nov.3 have caused remarkable discontent both inside Pakistan and among the international community. It is actually widely believed that his move basically stemmed from his fear that the Supreme Court was about to declare his re-election while in uniform unconstitutional. Musharraf, in turn, justified his actions by pointing to the deterioration of law and order in the country. In response to growing international criticism, on the other hand, he presented the measures he took as part of his attempts to save the country from the menace of terrorism. The enigma henceforth should be, as posed by analyst Ijaz Gul, whether Musharraf has in fact become “a victim of his exaggerated threat perception or exaggerated indispensability.�
http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=91051
#186 Posted by nasah on January 17, 2008 7:21:50 pm
Brayings of that pathetic Donkey Musharraf:
"Answering Newsweek’s Fareed Zakaria’s question if he thought he was the best “person to fight this war against the jihadis�, General (retd) Musharraf said: “The United States thought Benazir was the right person to fight terrorists. Who is the best person to fight?
You need three qualities today if you want to fight the extremists and the terrorists. Number one, you must have the military with you. Well, she was very unpopular with the military. Very unpopular.
Number two, you shouldn’t be seen by the entire religious lobby to be alien — a nonreligious person.
The third element: don’t be seen as an extension of the United States. Now I am branded as an extension, but not to the extent she was.
Pakistanis know that I can be tough. I can speak out against Hillary Clinton. I can speak out against anyone. These are the elements. You be the judge.�(DAWN -- Kashfi)
do we still want to know what killed Benazir? Wait till Hillary becomes the President -- tough guy.
"Answering Newsweek’s Fareed Zakaria’s question if he thought he was the best “person to fight this war against the jihadis�, General (retd) Musharraf said: “The United States thought Benazir was the right person to fight terrorists. Who is the best person to fight?
You need three qualities today if you want to fight the extremists and the terrorists. Number one, you must have the military with you. Well, she was very unpopular with the military. Very unpopular.
Number two, you shouldn’t be seen by the entire religious lobby to be alien — a nonreligious person.
The third element: don’t be seen as an extension of the United States. Now I am branded as an extension, but not to the extent she was.
Pakistanis know that I can be tough. I can speak out against Hillary Clinton. I can speak out against anyone. These are the elements. You be the judge.�(DAWN -- Kashfi)
do we still want to know what killed Benazir? Wait till Hillary becomes the President -- tough guy.
#185 Posted by tahmed32 on January 17, 2008 5:37:56 pm
#184 alternatively, Rana Bhagwandas could invite the King to a vegetarian meal... :-)
#184 Posted by nasah on January 17, 2008 5:29:23 pm
"KARACHI, Jan 16: Police on Wednesday withdrew ‘additional security’ from outside the home of former acting chief justice Rana Bhagwandas.
Superintendent of Police, Clifton told Dawn that the authorities had enhanced security for the former judge in view of ‘intelligence reports’."(DT)
The reliable sources said that the "additional Security" was placed around Justice Bhagwandas residence when the Honble Justice declined the invitation to go to Mecca to do the Umra as a VIP guest of the Saudi King.
Superintendent of Police, Clifton told Dawn that the authorities had enhanced security for the former judge in view of ‘intelligence reports’."(DT)
The reliable sources said that the "additional Security" was placed around Justice Bhagwandas residence when the Honble Justice declined the invitation to go to Mecca to do the Umra as a VIP guest of the Saudi King.
#183 Posted by SRK on January 17, 2008 4:49:39 pm
HP,
"Did you watch the Pakistani umpire helping India!"
Last night i could not watch the game. From the news reports only Rogers LB decision was iffy. But there were two questionable LB decisions against India too. So far umpiring seems to be reasonably good in this match.
Why do you feel Rauf is helping India?
"Did you watch the Pakistani umpire helping India!"
Last night i could not watch the game. From the news reports only Rogers LB decision was iffy. But there were two questionable LB decisions against India too. So far umpiring seems to be reasonably good in this match.
Why do you feel Rauf is helping India?
#182 Posted by viqarm on January 17, 2008 4:13:54 pm
Re: # 167
"For a Pakistani citizen nothing can be more demoralising than this..."
I am not demoralized by this at all. Unless the naPak army becomes the laughing stock of the entire world the Punju lot, which generously populates it to suck the rest of the nation's blood, will not come to their senses. Pakistan will never be free, nor can it develop, unless this cancer is completely cauterized.
"For a Pakistani citizen nothing can be more demoralising than this..."
I am not demoralized by this at all. Unless the naPak army becomes the laughing stock of the entire world the Punju lot, which generously populates it to suck the rest of the nation's blood, will not come to their senses. Pakistan will never be free, nor can it develop, unless this cancer is completely cauterized.
#181 Posted by nasah on January 17, 2008 4:12:35 pm
"WASHINGTON: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday praised former premier Benazir Bhutto’s “tremendous contribution to the cause of democracy�, while calling for an international investigation into her assassination and free and fair elections in Pakistan.
In an emotional address to the House, the speaker said the slain Pakistani leader possessed “remarkable optimism about the future a belief in the power of dialogue, and a strong commitment to democracy.� In the days and weeks that have followed Benazir’s death, Pelosi said, there has been little good news from Pakistan.
“The Musharraf government continues to deny the Pakistani people a full accounting of the assassination and the events that followed. There must be a strong international investigation of this despicable crime.
The best way the United States can honour the legacy of Benazir Bhutto, she proposed, is to renew its engagement DIRECTLY with the people of Pakistan" (Khalid Hasan)
NOT through Musharraf sahib -- and that's what the Democrats are going to do to Musharraf miaN -- make him absolutely dispensable.
"Aur bhi ghum hain zamanay meiN Musharraf kay sewaa"
In an emotional address to the House, the speaker said the slain Pakistani leader possessed “remarkable optimism about the future a belief in the power of dialogue, and a strong commitment to democracy.� In the days and weeks that have followed Benazir’s death, Pelosi said, there has been little good news from Pakistan.
“The Musharraf government continues to deny the Pakistani people a full accounting of the assassination and the events that followed. There must be a strong international investigation of this despicable crime.
The best way the United States can honour the legacy of Benazir Bhutto, she proposed, is to renew its engagement DIRECTLY with the people of Pakistan" (Khalid Hasan)
NOT through Musharraf sahib -- and that's what the Democrats are going to do to Musharraf miaN -- make him absolutely dispensable.
"Aur bhi ghum hain zamanay meiN Musharraf kay sewaa"
#180 Posted by anil on January 17, 2008 3:59:39 pm
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#179 Posted by masadi on January 17, 2008 3:37:41 pm
There is no place on earth where life rigged by rules made for you by others, can become so boring and meaningless as the US, forcing you to turn to useless consumption for "meaning", it is for this reason that over 60 percent of the public in the US looks like jabba the hut, including hamid and tahmed, as if sitting around in a coffee shop all day long sipping lattes and gazing at the waitress who reeks of smoke and cigarettes is some kind of "existence"...
#177 Posted by masadi on January 17, 2008 3:30:49 pm
The US is perfect for people like tahmed, people of shallow morals and backstabbers and rank racists. In fact if someone wants to curse his kind, curse them with perpetual existance in the meaningless life in the human hell hole the US that is sold to the world as some kind of heaven...
#176 Posted by masadi on January 17, 2008 3:28:10 pm
HP writes "There are many instances in history when groups of people decided to leave their homeland and ended up never owning a land"
You need to return to Pakistan man, leave the godforsaken shithole the US of A, a disgrace to all things civilized and human. Return to Pakistan we need you here, life is more meaningful and of substance unlike the BS in the US
You need to return to Pakistan man, leave the godforsaken shithole the US of A, a disgrace to all things civilized and human. Return to Pakistan we need you here, life is more meaningful and of substance unlike the BS in the US
#175 Posted by masadi on January 17, 2008 3:20:59 pm
tahmed writes " Benazir will forever be the Daughter of Pakistan who gave her life for the cause of Pakistan."
The only reason why this snake supports BB (when he has said horrible things about ZAB in the past) is because she was hobnobbing with the Shaitan towrads the end of her life, and this idiot worships the shaitan. That she realized the shenanigans of the US elite and was coming round to her father's legacy at the very end, considering principles of greater worth than US whoring around with the dictators is why the US in congruence with the Pak Army and insiders like Zardari got rid of her...That this swine who sides with her murderes is now trying to float some "cause of Pakistan" is just plain sickening. The very souls of such people like tahmed are dirty. May Allah ruin them.....
The only reason why this snake supports BB (when he has said horrible things about ZAB in the past) is because she was hobnobbing with the Shaitan towrads the end of her life, and this idiot worships the shaitan. That she realized the shenanigans of the US elite and was coming round to her father's legacy at the very end, considering principles of greater worth than US whoring around with the dictators is why the US in congruence with the Pak Army and insiders like Zardari got rid of her...That this swine who sides with her murderes is now trying to float some "cause of Pakistan" is just plain sickening. The very souls of such people like tahmed are dirty. May Allah ruin them.....
#174 Posted by arjun_4 on January 17, 2008 1:59:19 pm
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