The Dirty Tricks Brigade Tries to Spoil a Party

OK. Boys and girls, Who made this speech?

"I say that Hindu leadership is still harping on the same old story that we are a minority and that they are willing to give all the safeguards according to the principle laid down by the League of Nations. I read this formula to-day laid down by a great Hindu leader, who spoke at the Hindu Minorities Conference that was going on yesterday in this city. Let me tell my friends, the Hindu leaders, that the League of Nations is dead. Don't you know that yet?

Let me tell them, they are living at least a quarter of a century behind. Not only that, but you do not realise that the entire face of the world is being changed from week to week and from month to month in the European and other fields of battle. And a nation must have territory. "

And btw,
This has already been reported in Pakistani papers...You missed them last night..didn't you? Did you watch the Pakistani umpire helping India!

This is what the Navy Adm. William J. Fallon said.

“Pakistan is taking a more welcoming view of U.S. suggestions for using American troops to train and advise its own forces in the fight against anti-government extremists, the commander of U.S. forces in that region said Wednesday.�
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/16/A R2008011601238.html

You are in a such a hurry to run with the half news that you can’t even research it well. The US is training and advising Pakistan for a while. Idiot, the US has bases in Pakistan, in Jacobad and Baluchistan.

Give me something that is new…. Do you know how to read a blog? Ever tried checking the links in blogs?
Puky research!

Re: # 168 HP

The Surge Hits Pakistan

The surge is about to hit Pakistan. The top U.S. commander for the Middle East says that the deteriorating situation in the country and the increased violence in the frontier area have prompted Islamabad to accept plans for U.S. forces in the country for the first time since early 2002. Meanwhile, a top counter-terrorism diplomat says the situation has become so dire, the United States cannot afford to wait.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/earlywarning/2008/01/the_surge_hits_ pakistan.html?nav=rss_blog

That's not a Paki newspaper!

Re: # 167 Indian

Can Musharraf use his 'strategic assets' (and I am not referring to his swagger and braggadocio here, but to his nukes) to 'take out' these guys like he 'took out' that Bugti fellow in Baluchistan?

#167
"For a Pakistani citizen nothing can be more demoralising than this."

You are not the first Indian to post this here. Why all of you think only you read Pakistani papers? It must be demoralizing for you to not find anything to read in your own papers.

What is so demoralizing about it? There is an insurgency going on there. It is not that Indian soldiers don't get mauled down and mangled in Assam and Kashmir.

These half educated nincompoops post news here as if they are the only one reading papers. Idiot!

Flame the casbah!

For a Pakistani citizen nothing can be more demoralising than this.

Soldiers flee second Pakistani post after threats from militants


ISLAMABAD, Jan 17 (AP) Dozens of Pakistani troops abandoned an outpost near
the border with Afghanistan Thursday after receiving threats from militants,
an intelligence official, a local resident and a spokesman for the insurgents said.
However, an army spokesman immediately denied that the post at Saklatoi in South Waziristan
had been evacuated. ''I strongly contradict this news and this post is in our control,''
said Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas. The conflicting reports could not immediately be reconciled.
The intelligence official, who requested anonymity, said the paramilitary troops fled the
roadside post without a fight after the militants warned them to vacate or face attack.
The official, who was in the area, said the troops had already reached a military base in
the nearby Jandola town. Maulvi Mohammad Umar, a purported militant spokesman, said the
troops surrendered after 500 fighters surrounded the post. ''We released them (the troops)
under the spirit of Islam,'' he said by telephone from an undisclosed location. ''
The Taliban have now hoisted their white flag on the fort.'' A resident in Jandola said
the troops had abandoned the post, citing accounts from other tribesmen who had passed by
the fort and seen it.(Posted @ 18:10 PST)


http://www.dawn.com/2008/01/17/welcome.htm

So called Democratic Party for you.

Re: # 163

Yours and ours situation is different. You have processes in place, system takes time, and things kinda sort out themselves.

We on the other hand are in a grinding mill right now. The process will be a lot faster than yours. Price to pay will be enormous.

Re: # 160

Yaar pahleez, what do you take me for, a hindu from across the border who knows squat about our country and pretends to be an expert? The people of rural sindh vote for that candidate which they expect to win and by the way the skull caps, the jhunda, and kitab do win in sindh too.

This situation is absolutely no different in rural Punjab either. People will vote for that candidate who is expected to win. they want someone to save them from police, land revenue, and local goverment.

In a country like ours where every ten miles falls under the fiefdom of one or the other, people do not have choice to be upright and vote for candidate on ideological basis. Feudalism and Democracy are mutually exclusive.

#154 Posted by zeemax:

"Pakistanis have not run out of Rotis. They are just being 'deprived' of Rotis."

This is what happens under dictatorships. It happened in China under Mao, in USSR just before Lenin's NEP and under Stalin, it caused the Great Bengal Famine in 1942 (?). It is bound to happen under dictatorships imposed by military lords or religious "leaders". Amartya Sen has a book on this, the ideas therein do not originally belong to him though.

#157 Posted by tahmed32:

"I dont think that the movement is dying off though."

I genuinely hope that you are right.

#158 Posted by Urstruly:

"Give us some time and we will all blend in nicely."

I hope this happens in India too ... across castes and regions but I am not very hopeful about it during my life-time. Recently saw the barbaric beating-up of adivasis in Assam (on TV). Forget blending, I just hope that we get a wee bit more civilized.

I agree with urstruly. Any community that intermarries will eventually be diluted. Intermarriage is increasingly common in all pakistani communities, and thats a good thing.

enough time spent on chowk. i better go before hamidm accuses me of having too much time. God bless.

"I think the only progressive sindhi politicians are two gentlemen, Jam Saaqi and Rasul Bux Palejo. "

Both dear friends and seniors. Though I don't agree with Palejo on many things. There are many more you don't know sqaut about.
However, what the Sindhi majority is doing is what counts the most. They don't vote for skull caps and tasbih, they don't vote for the Kitab and they don't vote for the nabi ka jhanda(noorani mian).

They vote for people who promise a better life, better future and a respectful life.They don't vote for bhatta khor, purse and cell phone snatchers. What happens afterwards is not in their control. That control as you say is with the Napaak army and the fascist MQM as itss ally!

zeemax #154 I think the driving force behind food shortages is the rise in world food prices from everything i have read about. What you say is no doubt right wrt mismanagement by the government in promoting foodcrops export without regard to domestic shortages. my only point is - that food shortages are not deliberate. even musharraf cant be that stupid (and granted he is in his current predicament due to a mixture of gross arrogance and stupidity).

Re: # 152 I think, the chaos that you refer to is inevitable. Our country is passing trough a revolution right now; imagine us being the contents in a milk shake jug rotating, swirling- every one of them struggling to keep its identity or prejudice intact, for it was one thing that was giving him comfort and safety in the past. Give us some time and we will all blend in nicely.