The Dirty Tricks Brigade Tries to Spoil a Party

Re: # 105 Ana bibi,
You must have misunderstood. Punjabis, Sindhis, Baloch and Pathans are the only Pakistanis.

aap maTarvay laavarisoN ko iss mayN shaamil na karayN.

#111 HP,
So, this is what has your lungi on a ghee-fed fire and ants crawling up your behind?

I repeat #94 here for your enjoyment - of course it was in response to your usurpation of "progressiveness" as a Sindhi trait:

HP #92 {"#83 Posted by viqarm
The first thing that stands out like a sore thumb in your post is that you don't know what progressive means. ...
Try this link to learn a bit about Progressiveness."}

HP,
It is both gutsy and funny when a person born out of wedlock goes around calling everyone in the world a "bastard." LOL

You are notorious as a supporter of Sindhi Vaderas, a cheerleader of PPP feudals, and one who applauds the murderous behavior and arsonist zeal of PPP workers, supporters, and goons in the recent carnage in Sindh. With such despicable credentials you are now going to preach to Urdu-speaking Mohajirs about "progressiveness."

Sindhis who deliberately keep their serfs or haris illiterate and destitute are progressive?

Sindhis who burn and loot, loot and burn, and commit rapes as sanctioned rapes are progressive?

Sindhis whose male illiteracy rate is only eclipsed by the formidable female illiteracy rate are progressive?

Sindhis who say "Urdu na khappey, Punjabi na Khapey, Pakistan na Khapey, Panahguzeer na Khapey" are patriotic, tolerant, and progressive?

Sindhis who used to place their daughters in the homes of Hindu Vaderas as collateral for loans were progressive?

Shame on you and your attempt to masquerade your racism as bigotry. :(

Re: # 113 Viqram saab,

you are mistaken. We lover our muttarwas. The main reason, cause the word muttarwas reminds us of muttar pulao, which every Pakistani loves...and just on that basis...we love our urdu speaking folks. Plus they brought a whole new flavor of culture and education with them.


wonderful stuff

Okay time to watch the cricket match again...

Flame the casbah works every time!

Hurricane: I would beg to differ here. There is no brotherly love between some of these brothers, but thank you for being positive here.

Viqar: If you can say that about the "muttarwas", then why not apply it to some of the Punjabis, Sindhis, Baluch and Pashtuns as well? Y'aani ke I am not buying the argument that mohajirs are not Pakistanis. That level of thinking simply does not work for me.

Khair, time to say good night. . .

I do hope that what xeemax has posted will come true, that there will be no elections in pakistan.

The need of the hour is more troops, the police and the FC have been proven to be incompetent. The troops are guarding the food trucks, they are manning the shops. The largest heist in pakistan, 140 million rupees was carried out by the private security guards. The common kidnappings are on the rise with no one arrested.

Having taken over electricity supply to the manufacture of pop corns and of course the civil service, the military has to displace the para military and the police. The FCs as evidenced in the latest slaughter at Sargoda , have been reduced to jihadic fodder.

Get rid of the elections, what is needed is more troops and lots of it. Long live mushy and his troops.

Shortly, there will be a political polarisation, pakistan will become a good two party state, like the US. There will be a PMP, pakistan military party, and PIP, pakistan islamic party.

Now most of teh peoples opinions are along these lines, some one has to come up and lead it.

By all estimates, there will be a fuel shortage by March, more troops will be needed to guard fuel supply. Pak troops are not doing well at the afghan borders, because unlike the people of karachi, the jihadis are armed. Troops should be moved to guard duties and the jihadis left to the NATO forces to deal with.

It is coming, do not discout the jaypradamus.

HP,

""abey jab Jhanda laganay ka itna hi shouq tha tau maan behnoon ke izzat luta kar idhar kiyoon aa gaya!"

So what was your friend's response? It would be interesting to know.

However I understand the plan for Jinnahpur is well underway. Guess that should soothe Salim's feelings over the above remark to some extent I hope .. :)

As an Urdu Speaking Man, I believe that MQM is our only savior and that Sindi's the greatest threat to our existence in Pakistan - after the Sindis comes Punjabis (at least Punjabis are a bit more compactable with us).

#59 Posted by nasah on January 16, 2008 3:22:56 pm

'Benazir had all the good qualities of her illustrious father and none of his bad traits -- she was more educated more knowledgeable more sophisticated and more civil more courageous than her father -- she put the debased and deprived Muslim womanhood at the threshold of mainstream modernity. '

I agree 2 everyword u said but this is just one side of the whole story :(

This is an imperfect world but she made wrong assessment of the ground situation in Pakistan and wanted to be Pakistan's Hamid Karzai. Whereas the ultras made deep inroads into Pakistan and god knows when......(I want to leave it unsaid).

I watched all the debates and interviews she gave to westen media b4 she's in Pakistan. She was toeing the US line and u know the slogan of ultras in Pakistan:

Jo Amrika ka yaar hai, Pakistan ka gaddar hai (somtehing like that).

When she got US endorsement means she signed her own death warrant.

Beena Sarwar,

Good write-up.

Is there some reason why my post #117 got flagged? I was not calling anyone a "muttarwa", if it was, it would not have been in quotes. I guess some people are not intelligent enough to understand that I was quoting the pos(t)er who said that.

What I have said is nothing compared to what has come from some of your bloody keyboards. . . how pathetic.

#124 Posted by ana,

There's a mad flagger here usually found on UP with the Mad Cow Disease.

I think this article written by the Indian editor of India Express is a must-read, particularly by members of the "dirty tricks brigade" and other supporters of military rule in Pakistan.

Moral of the story: Democracy wins, dictatorship loses.

Extracts:
Junta versus Janata
BY SHEKHAR GUPTA
Khaleej Times, 9 January 2008

...an almighty (lately, former) general who has the power to declare and suspend emergency in televised speeches, the power to make 36 (or thereabouts) amendments in his “constitution” at a Press conference, and whose ability to take the biggest decisions on the spot is the envy, often, of the Indian politician, and has been a cause for admiration among India's chattering classes.

...And then came Shaukat Aziz, on secondment from Citibank. So smart, articulate, in his smartly cut suits, blah, blah and blah. And what kind of people did we have holding the same job in India? Gowda, who slept in Parliament. Vajpayee, who never seems to answer any question. Gujral who only uttered diplomatic platitudes that meant nothing. And Narasimha Rao, who mostly pretended he had not even heard the question.

...How have the relative fortunes of the two competing kinds of leaderships and nations under their charge evolved over these seven years? Musharraf now looks bumbling and unconvincing, an international joke, a pitiable, forlorn figure, hated by his countrymen, distrusted by the world and mentioned dismissively even by Barack Obama. Shaukat Aziz has disappeared from the scene, even losing out to an ordinary mortal - coincidentally from India - for the top job in his alma mater, Citi. Their country is a mess, their own army, for the first time, is seeing its credibility, power, its pre-eminent position in Pakistan's society and power structure questioned. Its political class is decimated, its institutions fatally wounded. How do people as proud as the Pakistanis feel when their dictator offers to salvage his credibility by summoning the Scotland Yard to investigate the assassination of their most prominent political leader? Nobody believes their election commission's intentions, motives or judgment in postponing their election.

Vajpayee, on the other hand, sits at home, having lost power in an election, not in the pink of health, but satisfied at the way his country is moving. His successor, from the opposite side of the political fence, even comes to wish him on his birthday.

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?section=opinion&xfile= data/opinion/2008/january/opinion_january35.xml

Re: # 103 Salim Chauhan:

Did you say?,"... If you PPP goons don't change your murderous, destructive, and hateful ways, you may soon see a big billboard on the Super Highway and National Highway - SINDHI NA KHAPAN...."

I never reallized fires of ethnic rivalries can be fanned to such an extent and so easily that Pakistan will fall apart if stability is not restored by SOMEONE and if all Pakistanis do not HUG each other.

If not there will only by national self mutilation! This is a disaster recipe! Then the whole region in and also around Pakistan will be destabilized.

Kamath

The fact of the matter is that MQM is a relatively new feudal party among the 200+ existing ones in Pakistan. I think sindhis have to just suck this fact up now. And I don't understand what difference does this make to an ordinary sindhi anyway. They have been living under one feudal lord or the other since eons until to this day. and they want to continue living as such for the next forseeable future. So why not one more. There is an urdu proverb for that too, which is, jaisa munh waisi chupair".