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US Conspiracy to Destablize Pakistan?

Moeed Pirzada January 18, 2008

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#391 Posted by tahmed32 on January 22, 2008 7:53:32 pm
majumdar: read #386 and tell me if I am wrong. What is a "good man" if he deliberately lies and misleads people. This scoundrel masadi is a teacher or something in Pakistan. I know his kind - misleading students, pretending to be a US hater after having jumped to get a visa for himself to the US!!
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#390 Posted by majumdar on January 22, 2008 7:52:10 pm
Tahmed sahib,

Re: 386

Now that's not fair. Masadi sahib has never been a votary of the "jihad" or supported the Taliban. He is a staunch Muslim and believes that principles of Islam if properly implemented can make the world a better place but has never justified violence as means to spread Islam.

Whatever else he is, he is not a fundoo.

Regards
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#389 Posted by tahmed32 on January 22, 2008 7:51:27 pm
anil #382 Agreed. Bill Gates became rich - and gave the world real value in return. This is why the US society is so progressive - it values merit above all else.
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#388 Posted by anil on January 22, 2008 7:50:06 pm
Re: # 381

Majumdar ji:

"...Masadi sahib is a good man really (if you overlook his foul language) it is just that his theories are all wrong. And I am sure that if he was to realise that his ideas would ruin Pakistan, he wudnt peddle his theories.

Besides, I agree with him when he says that Pakistan's institutions are severely retarded and need to be built first thing if Pakistan has to survive..."

Do you realize this is like "Sholay's" that classic dialog, where Amitabh goes to meet Masi for Basanti's hand for Dharmendra. Ranjit had quoted it ealier somewhere on Chowk.
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#387 Posted by majumdar on January 22, 2008 7:49:38 pm
Masadi sahib,

Do any of the developing countries (including Pakistan) have any choice other than to improve their own competitiveness, economic freedom, encourage FDI in order to develop their economies. Can you name any country which has followed an alternative path and succeded?

Regards

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#386 Posted by tahmed32 on January 22, 2008 7:48:35 pm
masadi: yesterday i took the time to prove you to be the constant liar and hypocrite that your are.

i will now take the time to expose you for the damned snake you are as well: It is because of snakes like you who spread lies about the US in Pakistan that thousands of boys from poor families in Pakistan have died the past 10 years. You know very well how they were fooled by snakes like you into going to Afghanistan to support the taliban and al qaeda that attacked the US and killed innocent people for no reason. If the parents and brothers of those dead boys knew how they were lied to by snakes like you - they would take you apart.

The above may seem drastic - but this is the reality.
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#385 Posted by masadi on January 22, 2008 7:46:58 pm
later..
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#384 Posted by masadi on January 22, 2008 7:46:40 pm
majumdar writes "it is just that his theories are all wrong. And I am sure that if he was to realise that his ideas would ruin Pakistan"

Very easy to say in this "broad brush" fashion so far you have failed to successfully challenge any of them... In fact what I mention is the only logically sound alternative to "more of the same" which has produced zero results for Pakistan thus far, and time for it has almost run out..
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#383 Posted by anil on January 22, 2008 7:44:13 pm
Re: # 376

Tahmed sahib:

Once this selection starts, elitism starts. Motive forces accelerate selection. Ability to produce becomes different. Economic law of Necessity. By all accounts Bill Gates would be an elite now. That is the way I see it.
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#382 Posted by anil on January 22, 2008 7:44:12 pm
Re: # 376

Tahmed sahib:

Once this selection starts, elitism starts. Motive forces accelerate selection. Ability to produce becomes different. Economic law of Necessity. By all accounts Bill Gates would be an elite now. That is the way I see it.
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#381 Posted by majumdar on January 22, 2008 7:43:31 pm
Tahmed sahib,

(some people on chowk posters are more interesting to read than others.)

I am sorry to say that you have missed out Ahmedmadani sahib in the elite list. In one small post and in very simple, uncomplicated language he puts in more wisdom and reality than the biggies of the chowk put in full page FP articles.

(what makes you think masadi has the interests of Pakistanis in mind? )

Masadi sahib is a good man really (if you overlook his foul language) it is just that his theories are all wrong. And I am sure that if he was to realise that his ideas would ruin Pakistan, he wudnt peddle his theories.

Besides, I agree with him when he says that Pakistan's institutions are severely retarded and need to be built first thing if Pakistan has to survive. Nor is his criticism of USA's (often anti-people) interference in Pakistan's internal affairs entirely unjustified.

Regards

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#380 Posted by masadi on January 22, 2008 7:43:18 pm
In #379 read "made the Pakistan Army stronger" as

made the Pakistan Army stronger in its political and economic domination of the country.

Regarding strength as a fighting force it wont last more than a week against any foe as is its goddamned reputation.
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#379 Posted by masadi on January 22, 2008 7:40:53 pm
tahmed writes " he would know better than to keep lying and painting as enemies nations that bear Pakistan no grudge or illwill"

The liar, who falsely accuses me of lying without any proof whatsoever, once again is defending US policies towards Pakistan, policies that since even before the Afghan war have destroyed our institutions, made the Pakistan Army stronger, brought civil strife not to mention all kinds of violence to the streets of Pakistan, and brought us to the brink of total destruction and he says the US is all about goodwill for Pakistan. Will you all still doubt what kind of a snake this person is
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#378 Posted by masadi on January 22, 2008 7:38:04 pm
Fighting America's farcial wars is what started this viscious cycle of destabalization that perpetuates the military dominated system that keeps the US ticking...There are many heavily armed cukoo militias running amok in michigan, let us have the US start a war there on the scale of the Pakistan Army to check the "terrorists" and then see what reactions it produces...Let me remind you that Waco in part produced the likes of Tim McVeigh from those very militias run amok....
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#377 Posted by tahmed32 on January 22, 2008 7:36:19 pm
majumdar: what makes you think masadi has the interests of Pakistanis in mind? This is all about his own measly little self and how he is the greatest invention of God since sliced bread. He is like Musharraf in this regard, except he didnt get lucky that scoundrel.

If masadi about Pakistanis - he would know better than to keep lying and painting as enemies nations that bear Pakistan no grudge or illwill. But Pakistan has too many scoundrels like Masadi and Musharraf who are full of themselves only.
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#376 Posted by tahmed32 on January 22, 2008 7:33:01 pm
anil #369 This is not elitism. This is merely pointing out that starting from a level playing field (free from social status, income levels, personality, and so forth), some people on chowk posters are more interesting to read than others.
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