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US Conspiracy to Destablize Pakistan?

Moeed Pirzada January 18, 2008

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#375 Posted by tahmed32 on January 22, 2008 7:33:01 pm
anil #369 This is not elitism. This is merely pointing out that starting from a level playing field (free from social status, income levels, personality, and so forth), some people on chowk posters are more interesting to read than others.
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#374 Posted by majumdar on January 22, 2008 7:30:11 pm
Masadi sahib,

Dont you think that it is possible that it may be in Pakistan's own interest that it must participate in the WOT. The havayoons are running amok in Waziristan again.

Regards
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#373 Posted by tahmed32 on January 22, 2008 7:28:29 pm
masadi #368 What!! All those hours spent yesterday..patiently pointing out the Leaning Tower of Masadi's Lies!! You want to be treated as the village idiot on chowk - be my guest.
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#372 Posted by masadi on January 22, 2008 7:28:08 pm
The news report said (see under) "Pakistan Army would continue its role against the war on terror, Kiani said."

I wish it was "against" the war on Terror but it's most probably the PMA English that Kiani is using while trying to express support for the wot.
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#371 Posted by masadi on January 22, 2008 7:24:02 pm
ISLAMABAD: US Centcom chief Admiral William Fallon has arrived in Islamabad on one-day official visit (as Musharraf is out of the country).

Admiral William Fallon met with Pakistan Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Pervez Kiani.

COAS General Pervez Kiani said in the meeting that only Pakistani forces to conduct any operation inside Pakistan. However, intelligence sharing with US can be done.

It is necessary to find out the root causes of terrorism and extremism. Pakistan Army would continue its role against the war on terror, Kiani said.

General Kiani makes it clear to Admiral Fallon that intelligence sharing on Pak-Afghan border security is a must.

US Centcom chief said that war against terror could only be won with joint efforts of the allied forces.

-----------------------------------
These SOBs own the Pakistan Army, they are preparing this new bastard for a coup

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#370 Posted by anil on January 22, 2008 7:16:43 pm
Re: # 366

Massaddi Mian:

"...And why do I need to do that, ..."

Without that Massaddi Mian, if you were a jamadar from Harvard, or knew anything about the street Pedalar from Gujranwala you would have realized, that you are so full of....

And just quite. Please use your beautiful mind, honestly please.
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#369 Posted by anil on January 22, 2008 7:14:35 pm
Re: # 367

Tahmed sahib:

"...And full marks to present company - HP, you, Hamidm - who imho are among the best on chowk...."

Aapne elitists khade kardiye Chowk per bhi. HP Mian ke alwaa, Massaddi Mian sab ko gaalin detein hain.


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#368 Posted by masadi on January 22, 2008 7:07:02 pm
tahmed writes " boy. I will be happy to work with you to help you get rid of your bad habits (lying, abusive, pretentious). :-)"

You entire wasted life has been described by your slavery to the white man, as his peon, helping him kill, maim and destroy in return for some crumbs he hands you by using fluff and other pretensions to stab your own people in the back. To think of it what kind of a soulless, immoral person could have sung songs in support of the US barbaric invasion of Iraq in trying to legitimize what the entire world understood was total injustice? Only Tahmed and his kind could do it.

And don't call me 'boy' you little swine.
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#367 Posted by tahmed32 on January 22, 2008 6:59:42 pm
#365 anil: the eliteless society is right here - on chowk. on the internet.

On the internet discussion forums, you cant impress anyone with your income, personality, gravitas. Only by the strength of our ideas, behavior. (I read this somewhere, btw). And full marks to present company - HP, you, Hamidm - who imho are among the best on chowk.

As your Masadi - Keep trying Masadi. You can do it, boy. I will be happy to work with you to help you get rid of your bad habits (lying, abusive, pretentious). :-)
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#366 Posted by masadi on January 22, 2008 6:59:23 pm
anil "produce an exmaple of eliteless society"

And why do I need to do that, I am not concerned with an "eliteless" society, it is when the elite usurp the very source of life and are destroying the earth that I want those who are being oppressed to challenge those that have become the "elite" but least deserve it- not in intelligence, in power or even in justfully owning what they own, which is the common heritage of the earth and its inhabitants, no human being since its origin can claim the earth and its resources as his sole right to the exclusion of others.

Next, just because something has not occurred in the past, especially since humanity was able to command surplus, does not mean that it will not occur in the future. In the evolutionary progression of humanity some, like Marx see the dialectic cycle ending with the emergence of a classless society or some form of it. Now you can argue on if that will or will not happen but you certainly cant say that it has not happened so it wont happen because the entire logical system of it is based on mode and relationships of production which have been different in the past. You being a harvard business school graduate cannot understand this, so I suggest you keep company with the gujranwala halwai so as not to suffer stress related diseases prematurely...
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#365 Posted by anil on January 22, 2008 6:47:50 pm
Re: # 359

Massaddi Mian:

I am still waiting for you to produce an exmaple of eliteless society. I have given you a choice from yes, before 7th Century right from the days of hunters-gatherers.

Why I keep telling that you have no idea of economics. Forget about economics of scale, economics of technology all that make things faster than ever in the 7th Century or in Mills concepts. Ask Bill Gates. I am sure you will insult him and call him elite also.

Listen to my advise, stop pedaling whatever you are, start learning from the pedaler of Gujranwala. He has better economic concepts, than a Summa Cum Laude among the class of D*****S.
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#364 Posted by tahmed32 on January 22, 2008 6:47:17 pm
jesus, i look down and even masadi got that one. That is how bad that statement was hamidm. It put you further out further out on the funny farm than masadi!!
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#363 Posted by HP on January 22, 2008 6:47:04 pm
#360 Posted by hamidm2
"sometimes i wish i had a sandwich shop instead of being one paycheck away from having to drink wine that comes in a screw-top bottle!"

Oh! I too love small business owners...as long as they don't claim that they are Harvard Business school graduates and just love to flip burger to help the humanity! heheheh

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#362 Posted by tahmed32 on January 22, 2008 6:44:42 pm
#355 hamidm: you say "anything that was worth doing was done by the idle rich"

I assume that brilliant statement is what won you the alpha beta gamma delta tau delta or whatever it is you won in college. I have noticed that you are beginning to slip recently.

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#361 Posted by HP on January 22, 2008 6:42:09 pm
#355 Posted by hamidm2
“actually i will go even a step further and say that anything that was worth doing was really done by the idle rich�

You are on a roll!

Read Taki Theodoracopulos some time. http://www.takimag.com/blogs/Theodoracopulos/

He is my fave conservative!
Here is a little sample of his astute writing about the rich and famous.

“Like Count Dracula, I used to love the night, hence nightclubs and late-night parties were the staple of my life. Back in the good old days when Eisenhower was president, I used to sneak out from my boarding school near Princeton University—50 miles from New York City—and go to El Morocco, the greatest nightclub of its time. Elmo’s, as it was called by those in the know, was zebra-striped, the great room circled by wide and comfortable booths where the more elegant types were seated. In the middle were tables where lesser folk—the nouveaux riche, the flashy, and those whose names appeared in the newspapers—would spend their boozy evenings. To show you how much the world has changed, back then appearing in the papers was a no-no, even where nightclubs were concerned.�
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#360 Posted by hamidm2 on January 22, 2008 6:42:02 pm
Re: # 351

hp mian,

..... sometimes i wish i had a sandwich shop instead of being one paycheck away from having to drink wine that comes in a screw-top bottle!

..... i have a lot of admiration for small entrepreneurs - specially those who give up 'secure' corporate jobs to strike out on their own..... i know quite a few guys who have done it and will be the first to admit that they are better men than me ....... it takes brass knockers
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