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US Conspiracy to Destablize Pakistan?

Moeed Pirzada January 18, 2008

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#471 Posted by masadi on January 23, 2008 7:21:59 pm
US plans in Pakistan- Latest off the press

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080124/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_afghanistan_pa kistan_9;_ylt=AtUpGvzici1LK4tH0xJCDhyWwvIE
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#470 Posted by masadi on January 23, 2008 7:21:22 pm
Anil try to address what I write in my posts, the point I made regarding Native Americans viz a viz the Hindus of India in YOUR comparison of Arab and European colonization is a very valid point, the point regarding the qualitative difference between Arab conquests and European and now US "globalization" is also a very valid point. Regarding my website there is nothing on there regarding Hinduism except in the comparative article about the status of women. After you've regained your composure from this ramble that is a sign of a weak intellect, you are free to go ___ yourself.
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#469 Posted by anil on January 23, 2008 7:12:51 pm
Re: # 463

Massaddi Mian:

While I am angry, let me address this also:

"...If the "Muslims" had done to India what the European settlers did to North America, Hindus would have been a minority of a minority like the Native Americans, ..."

You do not know a didly about Hinduism. I have seen your web-site to you hinduism is Sati or rituals and caste system. If this what it was, it would have died on its own.

This is not an institutionalized system that you can destroy by destroying its Mecca. It is not even a religion for your sake (and not God's sake, as it does not even define God).

When you are capable of learning I can tell you why Hinduism could not be destroyed, while Muslim armies crushed Persia.

You may need to look beyond 7th Century to Mills par course to learn that human civilization much more than religion. Religion is a very narrow part of civilization - it covers a belief system for man.

My advise, as it will be to my son, is that look to the future not all this past. Burying yourself in past makes you angry. You forget to live and enjoy life.

Even your God has given you 24 hrs in a day, just as he has given to other muslims and non-muslims. It is how you use is what you become.

Use them better, Massaddi Mian. You indeed have a beautiful mind. I must say this to you.
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#468 Posted by anil on January 23, 2008 6:49:06 pm
Re: # 463

Massaddi Mian:

Sword is not used for delivering flowers, in case you need reminding.

You always like to find faults in others. Please do not be so blind, violence is violence accept it. You must denounce it unconditionally.

Else, my dear Massaddi there is no difference whether it delivered by Gen. Custer's cavalry, Islams sword or your foul mouth.

Your hypocracy shows, and you show that you are nothing but a religous nut. You are desparately trying to grab whatever garb you can grab to cover your fanaticism. I can see why Tahmed sahib said that people like you who can brainwash young mind to be cannon fodder. I challenge you to remove religion out of the equation and you will find an equitable solution in that part of the world. People like you play in the hands of those whom want to fight.

There is just no difference between you and those who use a pretext for violence and justify killing others. People like you are not limited to your religion. Fanatisicsm is not yours alone.

I knew it when I will shine mirror back at you, you will be angry and like HP Mian, and will start calling me names. At least you did not call Mother Burner and Ganesha Mutant. You probably know my belief system better than HP Mian. Bigotry is in your attempts to challenge muslimhood of people on American Indians. Bigotry is in your failure to see that Muslim Army did not carry sword to deliver flowers with it.

Be objective to see and denounce violence no matter which ever cavalry or sword it came from. Don't grandstand regarding American Indians to brainwash by calling Muslim etc. etc. This is disgusting that you will use one killing spree to arouse others.
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#467 Posted by masadi on January 23, 2008 6:31:10 pm
tahmed writes "The dullards meanwhile live in the 19th century of Great Powers and states..."

Foremost among these "dullards" are the US elite that maintain a complex network of over 800 military bases all across the world in order to maintain their "power" and "state" of hegemony, and threaten countries a fraction of their size and military power using lies, to "bomb them to the stone age" and spend over $600 billion with a B, a year fighting impoverished people who can scarcely scrap for a chinese ak-47 and fight in slippers....The world indeed is progressing towards new and brighter "frontiers"...we are fortunate that even the illiterate fools living in half starvation now understand US shenanigans and "big talk" about several kilometer long research projects when the "fabric of reality" around the globe is that half of the world lives near starvation, worse than animals and over 80% of the rest not much better...
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#466 Posted by masadi on January 23, 2008 6:18:59 pm
hamid mian if I didn't feel so sorry for you at this moment, because of your condition (and wasted existence), I would have responded to #465. For all your failings and immorality you are still heads and shoulders above tahmed
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#465 Posted by hamidm2 on January 23, 2008 6:11:41 pm


chowk staff,

.... please ban tahmed from chowk for a couple of weeks - he is inflicting cruel and unusual punishment on masadi ..... i think it is called baiting ..... and the fool that he is, mad masadi falls for it every time .......
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#464 Posted by masadi on January 23, 2008 5:45:08 pm
In #463 read "not in any Arab conquered lands unlike European dominated settler areas"

as

" but that was never the case in any Arab conquered lands unlike almost all European dominated settler areas"
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#463 Posted by masadi on January 23, 2008 5:43:01 pm
Anil just saying "come up with better arguments" when you can't approach the substance of what I have written, just shows how retarded you are.

If you had read what I had written you could never conclude that "muslims were on a killing spree". I understand that this is your bigotry speaking. "Muslims" can never be on a killing spree. If you are talking about the Arab conquests of the past, the world is much different qualitatively now- they could never approach doing to the globe what these barbarians are doing, the means of destruction, power and wealth at their command is vastly greater and the reach much further than anything the Arabs could muster, and leave "Muslim" out of it. If the "Muslims" had done to India what the European settlers did to North America, Hindus would have been a minority of a minority like the Native Americans, not in any Arab conquered lands unlike European dominated settler areas
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#462 Posted by masadi on January 23, 2008 5:21:37 pm
By the way tahmed you LIE when you say you don't read my posts. You read them very carefully and sometimes multiple times, you just don't have the intellect to counter them
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#461 Posted by masadi on January 23, 2008 5:16:18 pm
For the idiot who wrote "These were bought from Texas, and not from Mexico. Please try to get your history straight."

Let me quote for you from the Wiki before you blurt out absurdities (remember that Texas itself, a part of Mexico was annexed by the US and then acquired using its peons who did not own it)


(quote)"These lands were a product of the Mexican-American War and the subsequent Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, signed February 2, 1848. In this treaty, Mexico gave the U.S. parts of what is Texas, Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico and Wyoming, and the whole of California, Nevada and Utah and recognized the Rio Grande as Texas' Southern border. The United States paid Mexico $15 million. In addition, the United States agreed to pay claims made by American citizens against Mexico, which amounted to more than $3 million." (end quote)



Tahmed I challenge you to show us here ONE factual lie that I have made in any of my posts. Saying "he knows me" or "I know him" only qualifies as a lie in the mind of dimwits, You are a pathetic moron and have been proven to be an immoral lowlife as well.
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#460 Posted by bubba on January 23, 2008 4:23:14 pm
[The western half of the US was stolen at pennies to the dollar at the point of a gun by the US, it was not "bought",...] These were bought from Texas, and not from Mexico. Please try to get your history straight.
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#459 Posted by tahmed32 on January 23, 2008 3:56:43 pm
chaltahai #444 You got that one largely right. The US will no doubt remain a major engine for innovations - but the multipolar (or more accurately, non-polar) world is already here: Thus, this year the LHC (Large Hadron Collider), the largest research instrument in the world (spanning I think several kilometers, and cutting across France and Switzerlan), a multibillion dollar effort involving virtually all the developed nations will - touchwood - start full operation. So much info will be generated that results will be partitioned and sent off to thousands of scientists across the world - and, if successful, will lead to either a confirmation of the very fabric of the reality or its extension (including the possibility of new dimensions).

The world of collaboration at a planetary scale is already here among the best and brightest in the world. The dullards meanwhile live in the 19th century of Great Powers and states...
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#458 Posted by tahmed32 on January 23, 2008 3:45:37 pm
masadi: numerous posts.

Lesson 1 Masadi the Liar and Hypocrite: I taught you this day before yesterday, exposing your habitual lying and hypocrisy.

Leson 2 Masadi the Snake: I taught you this yesterday, exposing you to be one of the scoundrels, bearded or beardless, who spreads lies about the US in Pakistan by equating it with Shaitan.

I am not interested in posts written by a lying, hypocritical scoundrel like you. So I didnt read any of your rubbish.
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#457 Posted by anil on January 23, 2008 3:17:23 pm
Re: # 454

Massaddi Mian:

"...who has no identity..."

What is your identity? For a moment I thought you were describing yourself. Can you not see the symmetry of your own arguments? By your logic you should be ashamed to call yourself a muslim, because only a couple of hundred years prior, Muslim armies were on the killing spree too.

Move on, come with better arguments, if you can. Else just move on.
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#456 Posted by masadi on January 23, 2008 2:35:40 pm
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