US Conspiracy to Destablize Pakistan?

dost writes "For my money, madaniji is the most successful trol on chowk."

You mean to tell me that (possibly) the only friend I have on Chowk, other than my friend HP (pardon me), is not for real?

Re: # 159

masadi,

... what about mills?..... was he a muslim too? ...... now, as far as i can tell his book on the us elite and the toothfairy is the only book you seem to have read ...... as far as we muslims are concerned, we don't need any book other than the book - everything we need to know is in there and if it is not, it is goat's fault .......

.... and stop throwing around the names of long dead arabs and persians as if they were your ancestors .... you and i are more than likely related to a half naked hindoo who roamed the countryside with his tiny steel utensil looking for a place to squat ........ and if it hadn't been for the white man who built the railroad tracks you would still be wandering ......

Re: # 161

masadi,

.... and please stop trying to gain respectability by associating your name with the likes of hp mian and madani sahib - they just humor you so that you can make a bigger fool out of yourself (as if that were possble)

hamid writes "you and i are more than likely related to a half naked hindoo who roamed the countryside with his tiny steel utensil looking for a place to squat"

If you must know, my ancestors migrated to this area from Iraq, not that it matters and the purpose of throwing out those names was to counter Arjun's bigotry and not to show anything about my ancestory. Regarding HP he is a good friend and a partner for social justice, you are just jealous that minds better than you recognize the worth of my posts....now go ___ yourself...

In #164 read " you are just jealous that minds better than you recognize the worth of my posts..." as

you are just jealous that minds better than yours recognize the worth of my posts...

#157 hamidm: i see you seem to be learning something from chowk finally - even though it is merely calling people names on the internet.

even senile old fool (to use your words) like me can tell that science and learning is not about "domination". and you are obviously finding that concept to understand.

Here is your assignment: re-read my post #128 carefully, then come back and tell me where you see me talking about muslim (or any other kind) of "domination".

Re: # 164

masadi,

... unlike you, hp seems to have made it in the land of opportunity and can therefore afford to be for 'social justice' ..... there is room in this great country for democrats and other homo-loving, tree-hugging, pot-smoking, bleeding heart liberals ......... we can afford it .... heck we even put up with crazy kooks like gloria stenheim and naom chomsky and ted kennedy ....... hp is a good man and most of the time he is on the right side, as is madani sahib who believes in the absolute superiority of people with 'milk white' complexions .......

Re: # 166

tahmed,

.... i read your post very carefully and stand by my argument that science and technology and other such nonsense does not matter to muslims ..... and if you think they are important, then you are not a true muslim (as i have always suspected) .....

.... tahmed, you are a good man, but you need to give up your superstitions and stop making excuses for your co-religionists .....

masadi: i see you it took you four posts to try and respond to the simple point i made on why you are a complete hypocrite when you claim that science and learning does not benefit all mankind (and not just the "evil elite").

As Shakespeare wrote: "Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive". If you had even an ounce of honesty in you, you would not need to bend and twist and write post after post trying to disprove the obvious. So, I am not going to waste my time reading your rubbish. I'm going to go read a fine book titled the People's History of the United States instead. Good night. :-)

tahmed,

..... one more thing - we, that is you and i, need to stand united against masadi .... he is the real enemy who threatens our children and our sanity ........

#168 hamidm: Your claim that to be a muslim and to appreciate science at the same time is not possible is so stupid that I am not going to return this statement to you for further consideration and reflection. I know you can do it. Good night to you too.

tahmed writes "So, I am not going to waste my time reading your rubbish. I'm going to go read a fine book titled the People's History of the United States instead. Good night. :-)"

As usual stumped by the facts and truth he puts his tail between his legs and runs off like the true hypocrite that he is. It took 4 posts not to answer one point but the "web of deceptions" that you were weaving mixing empowerment with benefit, using electricity with submitting to the colonial elite.

It is good that you are reading that book, the author of the book Howard Zinn knows me well, and when you read it you'll see how your mythology about this land its elite is busted...no go ___ yourself

#171 should read:

hamidm: Your claim that to be a muslim and to appreciate science at the same time is not possible is so stupid that I am going to return this statement to you for further consideration and reflection. I know you can do it. Good night to you too.

In #172 read "mythology about this land its elite is busted...no go ___ yourself"

as

mythology about this land and its elite is busted...now go ___ yourself


Hamid: why don't you shut up and let HP do his own talking, I don't think he advertised a chaprasee job recently

#172 masadi: and stop dropping names. I dont care if Virgil himself is your best friend.

Masadu sahib,

(If you must know, my ancestors migrated to this area from Iraq)

Is there any Paki Momin- apart from Salim Chauhan (who seems to be a descendant of Prithviraj) and Hamid mian (who is descendant from Grandpa Gopinath)- who is descended from the Hanud lowlifes.

Regards