US Conspiracy to Destablize Pakistan?

Re: # 46 madni

Yep - run from one sugar daddy to another.... :)

FakirIppi #: "Generals whose sons had a US passport; bankers who were US nationals but also dual Pakistani citizens...."

...interesting article....i believe it is not possible to be a dual national, if one has a US citizenship.....So the Prime Minister (SA) and Chairman Senate etc. cannot be dual nationals.....

.in addition, one cannot become the PM or Chairman Senate of Pakistan, without being a Pakistani national.....hence more than likely, these, "bankers" carry a Pakistani passport with a US green card........

hamidm2 #: "........wait a minute ! ........ it must be the atom bum ! ....... the very same bum that i celebrated with a big bum party and invited my smug neighbor dr gupta..."

yes...it would have to be the bum......though, i don't think the usa had much concern about it, until it got itself sucked into the whole middle east conflict, a few decades ago......now america is caught in a war, where it is fully supporting israel, with the muslims supporting palestine.....

i am still waiting for a us president, who has the guts to slap the silly israeli leaders into the real world, and tell him that israel is not going beyond the 67 borders....and then form a palestine state.......

the whole world has agreed to this; only usa, marshall islands, tuvalu, micronesia and usa vote in favor of israel......

after which, usa can buy oil, cheap, from arabs and arabs can buy ipods at high prices from the usa......and pakistanis can fo back to fighting indians and live happily ever after......instead of worrying about liberating palestine or afghanistan or iraq......

i have never seen a country than give $1000/year per person of aid to another, and yet this aid-taking country is able to dictate terms to the aid-giving country.......talk about the tail wagging the dog......

p.s. i'll take care of micronesia and marshall islands, if you can take care of usa (i belive tuvalu is about to disappear as an island, due to the rising tide)....

..otherwise, i am afraid, we are all headed for a catastrophe......

Re: # 50

romair mian,

.... you are clueless as usual - the us does not have any restrictions against dual citizenship .......

.... in any case, like i said before, the us cannot afford to trust the muslims - nobody can ..... israel is a shining beacon in that wasteland known as the middle east and hopefully, inshallah, kurdistan will be the next one .....

Has anybody considered what could happen to Pakistan if they told the US to f off?! "Bombing into the stone age" is only a last option.

-the US could cut off all aid (1 billion a yr is a huge chunk of change,esp if most of it goes to the military).

-the US could impose a trade embargo. Iran & Saddam can afford an embargo because they have oil revenues. Pakistan doesn't.

-the US could ally themselves with India. India is one of the few countries in the world , opinion polls show, that likes the US.
That would only worsen the sense of insecurity vis a vis India, that is pounded into every Pakistani.

You guys can wring your hands & lament why the US is a bad friend to have. But the US as an enemy will be 10 times worse.

RE # 17 Masadi, your BS is so consistent and analogous no matter in which board you write. It’s like if you have read you once, you have read you all. You are the biggest insipid joker on this website.

Re: # 53

shankar mian,

......... a whore does not have any friends - good or bad

shankar #: "You guys can wring your hands & lament why the US is a bad friend to have. But the US as an enemy will be 10 times worse."

the usa could do the same to india also.....the indian IT industry would crash if the usa stopped giving contracts to india.......as would various other industries in india.....it can also bomb india into the stone age.....it can do so to most countries.....

.......all the aid pakistan has taken from other countries has resulted in nothing but a huge national debt.....

anyways, no one is saying that pakistan should become an enemy of usa.....far from it......i am just saying that pakistan should neither be friends nor enemies with the us govt......the dealings should just be between businesses.....

the irani and saudi options are both detrimental to pakistan's future........

actually india has taken on the correct policy vis-a-vis usa (and israel and palestine).....

"the us cannot afford to trust the muslims"

hamidm sahib, let's not put it that way. What is clear as daylight is that the era of trusting others is totally over. Trust was a temporarly liberal delusion hatched in Europe until they learnt about the real world.

Re: # 7

Hewlett Packard, you said:

Now the question is: if they knew Bait ullah Mehsod did it only a few hours after the incident, then I am sure they must be keeping tabs on Mehsod’s whereabouts and conversations way before the murder.

I say:

You've brilliantly answered the question yourself. Congrats!

Where is OBL? Nowhere I guess. BB told David Frost that 'OBL was murdered'. Baitullah is the new enemey now.

If I cried and you lent me some tissue paper (Kleenex, for the US-settled), you'd be marked as a sympathiser too, with consequences of course!

News, or rather propaganda, is intentionally leaked out to the esteemed (!?) leaders of the print media. I only read Between-The-Lines-Times published by umm...umm...aaa...arrr...

Cocaine Cola, enjoy!

hamid writes ".... my grandma (god bless her soul) used to say that during the british raj atta was a rupee a maund and there was plenty of it ..... there was rule of the white man's law and god stayed in heaven minding his own business "

It seems to run in the family. Your grandma was just as idiotic as you are. Did you forget about the man made famines by the British that killed millions. Further, have you forgotten how they pushed back India by a century and treating the "coloreds" as unequal vermin the effects of which we face today. And they did all this to keep the price of wheat stable? You hamid have a slave mentality and are a son of slaves the kind that are happy in their enslavement.

One thing I will give you, atleast you are upfront about these feelings of worship you have about the white man. Tahmed on the other hand has even more intense feelings than you about the superiority of the white man and his shit but he masks that in his fake "care for the Pakistani people". May God damn both of you, him a little more than you because he is a snake and a back stabbing hypocrite.

Kulharee: I see you are all sobered up now, last night you werent able to put a sentence together and were lost between threads, then you have the audacity of talking about my posts, the ones you cannot even touch based on your dimwitted intellect...

Can Pakistan afford to say f-off to USA?

Yes, USA will love to leave her, or any one else, alone if Pakistanis:

- dont provide training facilities to potential Jihadis
- clear sanctuaries for troublemakers (e.g., wazirstan, “moral and diplomatic support�)
- protect their bums and do not sell it to other states. In other words, be responsible.

Until then, Pakistan will be either on short leash or an enemy state. Nothing in between.

#56 Posted by bulleya on January 19, 2008 7:42:35 am


the usa could do the same to india also


The USA could do the same to britain too..or france..or italy..alabama too..

but it is going to?

nope...

it's just pakis who're going to be threatened by a bombing-into-the-stone-age phone call to bomb and kill their own people...

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Re: # 59

Massaddi Mian:

"...Your grandma was just as idiotic as you are..."

You shamelessly cross limits. It is sad and pathetic.

anil writes "You shamelessly cross limits. It is sad and pathetic"

Anil you need to think before you blurt out absurdities. The guy is condemning millions to slavery and justifying the butchering of millions of Iraqis, not to mention what the US has done particularly since the early 1980s to Pakistan that involves hundreds of millions of people, and the fool is justifying all of that using his grandma. So if I call her idiotic how does it compare to what he is justifying above, and so what if I call her idiotic. I know you are not in the habit of thinking but think hard about it