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#81 Posted by masadi on January 19, 2008 2:45:38 pm
shankar writes "
India isnt harboring AlQeeda & Taleban leaders. Pakistan is. Pakistan is involved, how the heck can you be "neutral"?!"
Wrong. Pakistan isn't harboring anyone, it was FORCED to harbor them to begin with by the US and its occupation force and then to control the fallout from that mess. Everywhere the US wants to take its dirt like Iraq, Iran etc becomes a harboring place for "Al Qaeda and the Taliban", quite convenient I would say. On the other hand India harbors terrorists from neighbouring countries like Sri Lanka, Nepal, Pakistan etc, not to mention the ethnic/regional dirt going on within the country....not to mention those that marry bitches and trees and other such perverts....
India isnt harboring AlQeeda & Taleban leaders. Pakistan is. Pakistan is involved, how the heck can you be "neutral"?!"
Wrong. Pakistan isn't harboring anyone, it was FORCED to harbor them to begin with by the US and its occupation force and then to control the fallout from that mess. Everywhere the US wants to take its dirt like Iraq, Iran etc becomes a harboring place for "Al Qaeda and the Taliban", quite convenient I would say. On the other hand India harbors terrorists from neighbouring countries like Sri Lanka, Nepal, Pakistan etc, not to mention the ethnic/regional dirt going on within the country....not to mention those that marry bitches and trees and other such perverts....
#82 Posted by mohar11 on January 19, 2008 5:19:08 pm
philo
[... man marries female dog...]
you shouldn't be surprised - because you yourself are the product of exactly similar unholy union... ha ha...
You pakis are too easy... Now - go ahead flag this post...
[... man marries female dog...]
you shouldn't be surprised - because you yourself are the product of exactly similar unholy union... ha ha...
You pakis are too easy... Now - go ahead flag this post...
#83 Posted by masadi on January 19, 2008 6:00:28 pm
mohar writes "you pakis are too easy...."
And you, whoever the F you are are too damn stupid. An Indian Hindu marries a real live bitch (not of the Hillary Clinton variet but the woof woof variety) and somehow that gets translated to "Pakis" being the product of that union. What kind of perverted logic are you using?
And you, whoever the F you are are too damn stupid. An Indian Hindu marries a real live bitch (not of the Hillary Clinton variet but the woof woof variety) and somehow that gets translated to "Pakis" being the product of that union. What kind of perverted logic are you using?
#84 Posted by zeemax on January 19, 2008 6:33:17 pm
philosopher,
Qibla-o-Kaaba, kauransh baja lata hoon. Kahan thai aap itney roz-o-shab?
Qibla-o-Kaaba, kauransh baja lata hoon. Kahan thai aap itney roz-o-shab?
#85 Posted by ahmedmadani on January 19, 2008 7:34:48 pm
Re: # 67 Thanks mr.masadi for your appreciation.
#86 Posted by ahmedmadani on January 19, 2008 7:43:11 pm
Re: # 82 Mr. Mohor I will suggest you to behave as a gentleman and do not misuse this medium for propaganda. Many ago years ago things were bad really bad in India. A pakistani young women will admonish a child who do not want to eat roti. You should eat it , and children from india are starving remember they do not have no food/ roti to eat. Then she will threaten should bring and show you picture of starving indian boy and that will do good trick. But I did not like that thing as cultured people do not want this type of stuff. India is strange place, please do not hide indians are electing godless communists in many states year after years. I think you do not need proof to show there is mental problem of socialism in India.
Anyway I wish you good luck and good luck for you indians. Please go away in peace and become cultured when you interact with men and gentlemen and ladies here.
Anyway I wish you good luck and good luck for you indians. Please go away in peace and become cultured when you interact with men and gentlemen and ladies here.
#87 Posted by masadi on January 19, 2008 7:53:48 pm
By the way, in addition to #66, the fake will and the Army/US/Zardari trio, according to Newsweek the first person Rice calls after the assassination is .... yes you guessed it, Zardari...
#88 Posted by masadi on January 19, 2008 8:01:50 pm
With the prime intention I might add, as the article says, of picking a successor... the will comes later to the forefront
#89 Posted by dost_mittar on January 19, 2008 8:11:39 pm
bulleya#51:
"......and pakistanis can fo back to fighting indians and live happily ever after......"
Though said in jest, your comment shows that Pakistanis have not yet realised that their obsession with "fighting Indians" is the root cause of the mess that Pakistan is in now. It was this obsession of fighting a country seven times your size that made you enter into pacts like Seato, Cento, etc., give your army undue weight and let it control your country, it was this obsession which made your educationists introduce the so-called "k for kafir" education, it was this obsession which made your army make jihad and not patriotism the motivator for fighting, it was this obsession which had ZAB declare that you would eat grass for a thousand years but make an atomic bomb, it was this obsession that made you go for that disastrous strategic depth in Afghanistan and it was this obsession that made you create the jihadi infrastructure for bleeding India and even embrace hardened terrorists from the hijacked plane and let one of them, Masood Azhar, start the jehadi outfit, Jaish-e-Mohammad and took another, Sheikh Omar, under ISI wing, only to see him murder Danier Pearl and perhaps send funds for the 9/11 bombings.
It is time to give up that obsession for fighting the Indians. Most Pakistanis seem to have realised it; Wasim Akram helped Indian win the cricket match against Australia by coaching Pathan and Rauf by replacing umpire Bucknor; it's time hardened chowkies should do the same.:)
"......and pakistanis can fo back to fighting indians and live happily ever after......"
Though said in jest, your comment shows that Pakistanis have not yet realised that their obsession with "fighting Indians" is the root cause of the mess that Pakistan is in now. It was this obsession of fighting a country seven times your size that made you enter into pacts like Seato, Cento, etc., give your army undue weight and let it control your country, it was this obsession which made your educationists introduce the so-called "k for kafir" education, it was this obsession which made your army make jihad and not patriotism the motivator for fighting, it was this obsession which had ZAB declare that you would eat grass for a thousand years but make an atomic bomb, it was this obsession that made you go for that disastrous strategic depth in Afghanistan and it was this obsession that made you create the jihadi infrastructure for bleeding India and even embrace hardened terrorists from the hijacked plane and let one of them, Masood Azhar, start the jehadi outfit, Jaish-e-Mohammad and took another, Sheikh Omar, under ISI wing, only to see him murder Danier Pearl and perhaps send funds for the 9/11 bombings.
It is time to give up that obsession for fighting the Indians. Most Pakistanis seem to have realised it; Wasim Akram helped Indian win the cricket match against Australia by coaching Pathan and Rauf by replacing umpire Bucknor; it's time hardened chowkies should do the same.:)
#90 Posted by mohar11 on January 19, 2008 8:12:18 pm
Mad-ani
What "culture" ? whoever heard of a thing called "paki culture"... you pakis f888 a goat as a "right of passage", or so we have heard... doing young boys is a big thing peshawar... so spare us the lecture... :)
What "culture" ? whoever heard of a thing called "paki culture"... you pakis f888 a goat as a "right of passage", or so we have heard... doing young boys is a big thing peshawar... so spare us the lecture... :)
#91 Posted by ahmedmadani on January 19, 2008 8:28:40 pm
Re: # 88 Masadi sAHIB ... i JUST CAN NOT IMAGINE mR.zARDARI was involved. As her husband and father of their 3 children it is IMPOSSIBLE. Also for love of her wife he spent 6 years in prison and could have gone out by making deal like NS and company. It was not fun in Prison as they almost killed him, but they saved him as they did not wanted blood of another Sindhi. USA will not get involved in killing ex PM as she was pushing agenda of president bush as american backed leader like Shah of Iran.
Hope you will agree to disagree
Hope you will agree to disagree
#92 Posted by masadi on January 19, 2008 8:31:40 pm
dost writes "Though said in jest, your comment shows that Pakistanis have not yet realised that their obsession with "fighting Indians" is the root cause of the mess that Pakistan"
That is certainly not a one way street as you are putting it. You cannot just get rid of the entire catastrophie of the partition and the playing of one side against the other. The Muslims of India still suffer from its effects. When the entire legitimacy of the leadership on the smaller side was built upon exploiting and making real the farce of the two nation bit, just like the legitimacy of the Pak Army in Pakistani politics is based on doing America's dirty work and inflating the "terror threat"- The obsession to fight each other was certainly a two way street but unequal opponents would produce different reactions, events made it real, used by the Pak Army to manipulate the people while it carries on with its role as the US occupation force...
That is certainly not a one way street as you are putting it. You cannot just get rid of the entire catastrophie of the partition and the playing of one side against the other. The Muslims of India still suffer from its effects. When the entire legitimacy of the leadership on the smaller side was built upon exploiting and making real the farce of the two nation bit, just like the legitimacy of the Pak Army in Pakistani politics is based on doing America's dirty work and inflating the "terror threat"- The obsession to fight each other was certainly a two way street but unequal opponents would produce different reactions, events made it real, used by the Pak Army to manipulate the people while it carries on with its role as the US occupation force...
#93 Posted by masadi on January 19, 2008 8:36:54 pm
#91 Mr madani Zardari was no saint for you to conclude using subjective "emotive" reasons that he could not be involved. Where was he when the US sent her to get killed in Pakistan, never by her side, unknown to the PPP and yet he has very conveniently assumed leadership of the party. The Army would not have dared to get rid of the BB were the Americans on her side at the end, it's like getting rid of Negroponte when he visited Musharraf with a final ultimatum and if they had dared done that you can bet the reaction would not have been as lukewarm as the American reaction to the assassination of the BB
#94 Posted by FakirIppi on January 19, 2008 10:32:30 pm
Re: # 50 Mr Bulleya . I will brush up your knowledge for your future guidance.
I attended DAVOS Summit of 2002 and saw on the directory of participants that Shaukat Aziz then Finance Minister of Pakistan's nationality as USA.
The Pakistani law stated till 2002 that Dual Citizens could not be holders of public office.The usurper Musharraf modified it vide an ordnance allowing dual citizens to have dual nationality.100 % sure that Shaukat Aziz and Soomro Chairman Senate are US citizens.
I am on way to DAVOS now and will again confirm this.
I attended DAVOS Summit of 2002 and saw on the directory of participants that Shaukat Aziz then Finance Minister of Pakistan's nationality as USA.
The Pakistani law stated till 2002 that Dual Citizens could not be holders of public office.The usurper Musharraf modified it vide an ordnance allowing dual citizens to have dual nationality.100 % sure that Shaukat Aziz and Soomro Chairman Senate are US citizens.
I am on way to DAVOS now and will again confirm this.
#95 Posted by zeemax on January 19, 2008 11:13:08 pm
#86 Posted by ahmedmadani,
Madani Saheb,
When you get upset at hindoos, please understand that these are just migrant field-mice getting trampled in the battle between elephants.
Ignore them. They don't count in the global games being played.
Madani Saheb,
When you get upset at hindoos, please understand that these are just migrant field-mice getting trampled in the battle between elephants.
Ignore them. They don't count in the global games being played.
#96 Posted by zeemax on January 19, 2008 11:24:40 pm
#89 Posted by dost_mittar,
Though this post is addressed to bulleya, allow me to give my take.
Pakistan never wanted to fight India right from the outset. Jinnah actually believed he could still commute between his home in Karachi and the one in Bombay as casually as he did before partition. It was the animosity shown by the Indians after partition towards existence of the Pakistani State, plus the unwarranted and traumatic exchange of populations which made the two enemies. After that, it was a question of survival for the new born State of Pakistan, so it took on the weak man's tactic - aggression is the best defense. Jaish and all (the shadow wars) came as a natural consequence towards neutralizing a much bigger foe.
I'm afraid Indians have as much to blame for that as Pakistanis.
But, I believe if Indians accept the reality which is Pakistan, and stop maligning it all the time (as you see on Chowk, even though it may not be completely representative), things are still not that bad between the neighbours.
Though this post is addressed to bulleya, allow me to give my take.
Pakistan never wanted to fight India right from the outset. Jinnah actually believed he could still commute between his home in Karachi and the one in Bombay as casually as he did before partition. It was the animosity shown by the Indians after partition towards existence of the Pakistani State, plus the unwarranted and traumatic exchange of populations which made the two enemies. After that, it was a question of survival for the new born State of Pakistan, so it took on the weak man's tactic - aggression is the best defense. Jaish and all (the shadow wars) came as a natural consequence towards neutralizing a much bigger foe.
I'm afraid Indians have as much to blame for that as Pakistanis.
But, I believe if Indians accept the reality which is Pakistan, and stop maligning it all the time (as you see on Chowk, even though it may not be completely representative), things are still not that bad between the neighbours.
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