Shahjahan’s “Moorti” and Other Absurdities in Agra

#164 Posted by masadi on January 25, 2008 5:29:18 pm


and second if it had been similar to British colonialism then I would have condemned it equally.


yes..islam colonialism wasn't similar to brit colonialism...it was better...

right?

Also explain to us how singing praise of the "shining city on the hill" every other post, makes you no "fan" of colonization of any kind, you're not only a bigot, you're a liar as well...

Arjun writes "you're just an islamist apologists who has read mills...nothing more..."

That is the opinion of someone who is a plain simple bigot (you) who has hardly read anything, let alone my many posts here over the past 3 years

arjun writes "....but you clearly have a different standard for islamic colonialism...."

Firstly it was not "Islamic", and second if it had been similar to British colonialism then I would have condemned it equally. Every one here knows very well how I do not, even in the least support the so-called "Islamic" political forces and their fight around the globe, I consider them partners with the colonizers- knowing that you certainly cannot claim, except through your bigotry, that I support any kind of colonization of the past.

#160 Posted by masadi on January 25, 2008 5:20:13 pm


No, they actually transformed India into a nation of railroad squatters


No brits, no railroads...

look masadi..I'm no fan of any type of colonialism...no exceptions....but you clearly have a different standard for islamic colonialism in that you think all islamic colonialization was beneficial to the unwilling recepients...

you're just an islamist apologists who has read mills...nothing more...

Once again the sum total of the bigots emerged and were driven back in total loss....this is quite amazing...

#151 Posted by ISlamIslam on January 25, 2008 4:02:02 pm


You can see thousands of incidents of Hindu culture and language in Thai society.


I read about islamofascists killing thai teachers and civilians every other day...so there's thousands of incidents of paki culture in thai society too...

arjun writes "so the brits "civilized" you too... "

No, they actually transformed India into a nation of railroad squatters and their rampage around the globe put to shame the barbarism of the Mongols- It is about ideas and action not about pants and your skirt...

#157, I think you are quite blinded by your bigotry, the discussion has nothing to do with appreciation of Western culture, in fact tahmed does not even have a clue about what that is because his knowledge of it is based on popular fluff that is not "Western culture", it was about his advocacy of our people becomming "slaves" to the white man. Finally there is nothing specifically "Arabic" about the religion of Islam, in fact the Quran attacks the many irrational and barbaric aspects of the then prevailing Arabic culture based on the criteria of truth and humanity, and transformed it. If people in our parts of the world want to transform similar bs in their cultures, it is a good thing not a bad one, nevermind the fluff about "arabic names" which are actually semitic names but due to historic/religious diffusion have become part of multiple cultures. You on the other hand, regardless of how you try to reword your question remain a certified bigot.

#152 Posted by masadi on January 25, 2008 4:41:16 pm


The Mongols did not ravage the Muslims in the long run because the Muslims civilized them and the conquerors became the conquered.


Well you're wearing pants(hopefully) and using the internet and posting in English...

so the brits "civilized" you too...

#156:

Well. This has nothing to do with bigotry. I'm just asking a logical question.

You are against tahmed bending over backwards to appreciate the "western culture'. So you should at least have some opinion on the Muslims bending over backwards in their appreciation of the "arab culture".

If you find nothing wrong with Muslims appreciating "arab culture", don't you think it is a bit hypocritical to blame "tahmed" for his appreication of "western culture".

#155 my comment was regarding "open mindedness" and had nothing to do with something being right or wrong. It certainly had nothing to do with becomming fodder for Hindu bigotry against Islam but then anything and everything including a mosquito sitting on a wall can become fodder for some Hindu bigot to attack Islam and Muslims with- once again tracable to the white man playing one against the other and then using his peons the likes of MAJ to ferment this BS, a disease that the Hindus and to a lesser extent the Muslims of India/Pakistan still suffer from...

Muslims today more of them imitate western clothing and
culture than any Westerner does regarding Arab or any other clothing and culture- what does that tell you, who is the more "open minded". By open minded tahmed wants the Muslims and everyone else of "color" to bow with eternal sajda to the white man- that is what he means by "open minded", if you resist this enslavement and say NO to being told what to do and for your culture to be termed "uncivilized" then this snake will say that you are "undemocratic" and have a closed mind.


Do you think it is Ok to imitate "arab culture" instead of "western culture", for example, in naming your kids with arabic names, or wearing the "arab dress" etc...

One more note about this "openmindedness" bs that tahmed is deliberately throwing out to muddy the situation today (he got the concept from my posts to arjun about Muslim scientists of the past and is misusing it):

Muslims today more of them imitate western clothing and culture than any Westerner does regarding Arab or any other clothing and culture- what does that tell you, who is the more "open minded". By open minded tahmed wants the Muslims and everyone else of "color" to bow with eternal sajda to the white man- that is what he means by "open minded", if you resist this enslavement and say NO to being told what to do and for your culture to be termed "uncivilized" then this snake will say that you are "undemocratic" and have a closed mind. We know your kind tahmed, NEVER AGAIN will we let your kind do to our people what you have done in the past, NEVER again....

in #152 read "and transformed the people in backward railroad squatters" as


and transformed the people to backward railroad squatters

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p.s You stinking liar don't think that everyone here is so naive to fall for your bs to perpetuate the white man's enslavement of the world. We recognize your kind tahmed, and never again will we let your kind do to our people what you have done in the past. Don't ___ with us.

tahmed writes "Muslims never recovered from the ravages of the mongols, "

A hypocritical excuse by tahmed to gloss over the effects of European colonization on the Muslims and how they played one side against the other, divided up the Middle East and handed it to their peons to rule by proxy and have been preventing them, as they did in the case of Iran and Mossadeq, to develop their own democratic systems. The Mongols did not ravage the Muslims in the long run because the Muslims civilized them and the conquerors became the conquered. Muslims were doing just fine were it not for the backstabbing and in fighting by people like tahmed on behalf of the white man that has reduced them to the state they are in. This snake will never put the blame where it belongs, on the continual imperialism and rape of our lands by the white man and it is not that the Muslims are not "open minded" anymore, whereas the Muslims did not put a series of patents and copyrights on their "knowledge" which they shared openly with the West these swines the US elite and their European allies always prevent equal transfer of technology and where we had the technology like in India they deliberately ruined it and transformed the people in backward railroad squatters, and they could never have done it were it not for backstabbing snakes like tahmed, who helped them destroy our people. Now go ___ off you snake.