Ayub Khan January 18, 2008
#119 Posted by laddu on January 24, 2008 6:08:36 am
Jethro, The Druze And Vedic Origins
BY DHIRA GOVINDA DASA
EDITORIAL, Jul 23 (VNN) — Readers who were interested in VNN Story VNN8222, Hebrews and Vedic Brahmins, will find the following article very interesting. This article is also found in the new edition of the book Krsna, Israel, and the Druze- An Interreligious Odyssey, by Dhira Govinda dasa (David B. Wolf, Ph.D.), available from Torchlight Publishing (www.torchlight.com or torchlight@spiralcom.net) or Satvatove (DGovinda@aol.com).
Jethro, The Druze And Vedic Origins
A serendipitous, though intensive, case study of Israeli Druze reveals striking similarities between Vedic and Druze philosophy and culture. This article uses these congruities as a springboard for researching Druze origins. Jethro, commonly known as the father-in-law of Moses, is the greatest saint in the pantheon of Druze prophets. He is a Midianite, a tribe descending from the sons of Keturah who were sent by Abraham to the East. Analysis of the relationship between Moses and Jethro reveals that Moses oftentimes accepted the role of Jethro's student. It is suggested that Moses was the disciple of Jethro in practical as well as spiritual matters. This conforms with the Midianite-Kenite hypothesis about the origin of the Hebrew religious system. The author relates this idea to the Druze connection with India, and suggests that Druze oral and written traditions be studied, alongside a reexamination of the Midianite-Kenite hypothesis, to determine the extent of Vedic influence on Judaic history.
BY DHIRA GOVINDA DASA
EDITORIAL, Jul 23 (VNN) — Readers who were interested in VNN Story VNN8222, Hebrews and Vedic Brahmins, will find the following article very interesting. This article is also found in the new edition of the book Krsna, Israel, and the Druze- An Interreligious Odyssey, by Dhira Govinda dasa (David B. Wolf, Ph.D.), available from Torchlight Publishing (www.torchlight.com or torchlight@spiralcom.net) or Satvatove (DGovinda@aol.com).
Jethro, The Druze And Vedic Origins
A serendipitous, though intensive, case study of Israeli Druze reveals striking similarities between Vedic and Druze philosophy and culture. This article uses these congruities as a springboard for researching Druze origins. Jethro, commonly known as the father-in-law of Moses, is the greatest saint in the pantheon of Druze prophets. He is a Midianite, a tribe descending from the sons of Keturah who were sent by Abraham to the East. Analysis of the relationship between Moses and Jethro reveals that Moses oftentimes accepted the role of Jethro's student. It is suggested that Moses was the disciple of Jethro in practical as well as spiritual matters. This conforms with the Midianite-Kenite hypothesis about the origin of the Hebrew religious system. The author relates this idea to the Druze connection with India, and suggests that Druze oral and written traditions be studied, alongside a reexamination of the Midianite-Kenite hypothesis, to determine the extent of Vedic influence on Judaic history.
#118 Posted by laddu on January 24, 2008 5:38:25 am
786 is actually OM written in script from right to left .. just like da vinci used to write...
#117 Posted by laddu on January 24, 2008 5:35:03 am
Vedic religion is known for its ancient oral tradition. It is well known that the Vedic culture emphasized oral debate and expression far more than the written word. In adition the oral recitation of Vedic scriptures was always done in a lyrical fashion, utilizing music and thus reaching a height of expression. In fear of this musical tradition Muhammad decided to forbid Music.
All Arabic copies of the Koran have the mysterious figure 786 imprinted on them . No Arabic scholar has been able to determine the choice of this particular number as divine. It is an established fact that Muhammad was illiterate therefore it is obvious that he would not be able to differentiate numbers from letters. This "magical" number is none other than the Vedic holy letter "OM" written in Sanskrit (Refer to figure 2). Anyone who knows Sanskrit can try reading the symbol for "OM" backwards in the Arabic way and magically the numbers 786 will appear! Muslims in their ignorance simply do not realise that this special number is nothing more than the holiest of Vedic symbols misread.
Figure 2.
Read from right to left this figure
of OM represents the numbers 786
There are many such instances where the symbols and rituals of Vedic culture were completely distorted and falsified by Muhammad in his bid to "create" his brand new religion. However in his haste to deceive and because of his ignorance and illiteracy, thousands of Vedic symbols still remain. Although they have been distorted beyond imagination, they still remain as solemn reminders of Arabia's glorious Vedic past. They can never be supressed.
In fact the rise of Islam put a full stop to all the previous knowledge of Arabia. The imperialistic message of Islam diverted all energies into raiding, looting and destruction. The incentive to learn and preserve the Vedic wisdom that had thrived in Arabia for so many centuries, was wiped out by the brutal pressure of Islam. Making easy money through loot and massacre was far more appealing than upholding the tenets of ancient knowledge. Gone were the schools, teachers, libraries, poets, artists, philosophers and scholars that had littered the Vedic landscape of Arabia like stars. Everyone had to become a raider if not from choice then for the sake of surviving the absolute intolerance of dissenters, that Islam preached. Thus was the light of learning extinguished in Arabia. All that remained was the Koran, the Kalma and the murderous hatred of anything Non-Muslim.
All Arabic copies of the Koran have the mysterious figure 786 imprinted on them . No Arabic scholar has been able to determine the choice of this particular number as divine. It is an established fact that Muhammad was illiterate therefore it is obvious that he would not be able to differentiate numbers from letters. This "magical" number is none other than the Vedic holy letter "OM" written in Sanskrit (Refer to figure 2). Anyone who knows Sanskrit can try reading the symbol for "OM" backwards in the Arabic way and magically the numbers 786 will appear! Muslims in their ignorance simply do not realise that this special number is nothing more than the holiest of Vedic symbols misread.
Figure 2.
Read from right to left this figure
of OM represents the numbers 786
There are many such instances where the symbols and rituals of Vedic culture were completely distorted and falsified by Muhammad in his bid to "create" his brand new religion. However in his haste to deceive and because of his ignorance and illiteracy, thousands of Vedic symbols still remain. Although they have been distorted beyond imagination, they still remain as solemn reminders of Arabia's glorious Vedic past. They can never be supressed.
In fact the rise of Islam put a full stop to all the previous knowledge of Arabia. The imperialistic message of Islam diverted all energies into raiding, looting and destruction. The incentive to learn and preserve the Vedic wisdom that had thrived in Arabia for so many centuries, was wiped out by the brutal pressure of Islam. Making easy money through loot and massacre was far more appealing than upholding the tenets of ancient knowledge. Gone were the schools, teachers, libraries, poets, artists, philosophers and scholars that had littered the Vedic landscape of Arabia like stars. Everyone had to become a raider if not from choice then for the sake of surviving the absolute intolerance of dissenters, that Islam preached. Thus was the light of learning extinguished in Arabia. All that remained was the Koran, the Kalma and the murderous hatred of anything Non-Muslim.
#116 Posted by VRV on January 24, 2008 5:29:44 am
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#115 Posted by laddu on January 24, 2008 5:27:45 am
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#114 Posted by VRV on January 24, 2008 5:20:47 am
laddu, U need a website to promote ur jackass theories abt kaaba stone being shaligram, whereas shaligram itself is a bogus concept of being the incarnation of an imginary Dog, sorry God, Vishnu.
see u later.
see u later.
#113 Posted by VRV on January 24, 2008 5:17:49 am
OK, lemme guess abt Kaaba. I looked at it from the Net pages. It looked more like a meteorite.
#112 Posted by laddu on January 24, 2008 5:17:45 am
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#111 Posted by laddu on January 24, 2008 5:13:36 am
Simple - take the challenge regarding kabba black stone.......
doodh ka doodh , paani ka paani ho jayega!!!
doodh ka doodh , paani ka paani ho jayega!!!
#110 Posted by VRV on January 24, 2008 5:10:05 am
gtg, lets see for the points of this bedouin Hindu.
uFFFF!
uFFFF!
#109 Posted by VRV on January 24, 2008 5:06:46 am
Who'd take ur challenge laddu? Have a glass of water or gau mutra for special cures.
Bharatavarsha never included Arabian peninsula (pre-Mohammed guys are not ur forefathers, laddu unless u r a bedouin).
Bharatavarsha never included Arabian peninsula (pre-Mohammed guys are not ur forefathers, laddu unless u r a bedouin).
#108 Posted by VRV on January 24, 2008 5:03:28 am
http://www.homepage.montana.edu/~geol445/hyperglac/time1/tectonics.htm
This gives us idea as to how these marine fossils (for some they are shaligrams with divine powers) came Himalayan region. The shaligram.org tells us abt the existence of these shaligrams in Nepal's Gandaki river.If u can see the movement of India plate against Eurasian Plate (wrongly mentioned as Tibet plate) & there's a sea that separated the two plates. When the two plated collided, it created Himalayas & the sea got disappeared. However the marine life stuck there got intersticed in the earth crusts and it became fossils over a millennia.
The water streams from Himalays naturally cut the earth crusts at many places and more it cut more it washed down those intersticed marine fossils. Instead of looking at it phenomenon scientifically, ppl started looking at those objects as divine stuff.
This gives us idea as to how these marine fossils (for some they are shaligrams with divine powers) came Himalayan region. The shaligram.org tells us abt the existence of these shaligrams in Nepal's Gandaki river.If u can see the movement of India plate against Eurasian Plate (wrongly mentioned as Tibet plate) & there's a sea that separated the two plates. When the two plated collided, it created Himalayas & the sea got disappeared. However the marine life stuck there got intersticed in the earth crusts and it became fossils over a millennia.
The water streams from Himalays naturally cut the earth crusts at many places and more it cut more it washed down those intersticed marine fossils. Instead of looking at it phenomenon scientifically, ppl started looking at those objects as divine stuff.
#107 Posted by laddu on January 24, 2008 5:03:17 am
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#106 Posted by laddu on January 24, 2008 5:01:15 am
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#105 Posted by VRV on January 24, 2008 4:46:01 am
On primary observations these shaligrams look like fossils whashed dwon by the streams/tributaries of Ganga.
If one can recollect the India plate collided with Tibet plate and we have mighty Himalayas as a result. Indian geologist Prof. Negi found some marine fossils in Himalays which he thought were the relics of pre-tectonic activity and the shaligrams I saw in websites just look like them.
Some Indias are too superstitious!
If one can recollect the India plate collided with Tibet plate and we have mighty Himalayas as a result. Indian geologist Prof. Negi found some marine fossils in Himalays which he thought were the relics of pre-tectonic activity and the shaligrams I saw in websites just look like them.
Some Indias are too superstitious!
#104 Posted by VRV on January 24, 2008 4:38:46 am
Tahir,
Some ppl delude themselves with all kinds of delusions. Laddu may not n=know that temple doesnt mean a Hindu temple. There're temples in all parts of the world, Be it in Americas, Africa, Asia Minor, Middle East or Japan. They arent Hindu temples.
Md himslef admits that kaaba was filled with idols and they are not necessarily Hindu idols.
As for shaligram the symbol of Vishnu, the effer is an imigination of some clegy, who had four hands, sleeps on the coils of a mega snake in the middle of a milk ocean along with his wife massgaing his feet.
If that Vishnu is a big imigination, where's the importnace of shaligram bei it in UP or Makka. So go easy on these ppl.
Some ppl delude themselves with all kinds of delusions. Laddu may not n=know that temple doesnt mean a Hindu temple. There're temples in all parts of the world, Be it in Americas, Africa, Asia Minor, Middle East or Japan. They arent Hindu temples.
Md himslef admits that kaaba was filled with idols and they are not necessarily Hindu idols.
As for shaligram the symbol of Vishnu, the effer is an imigination of some clegy, who had four hands, sleeps on the coils of a mega snake in the middle of a milk ocean along with his wife massgaing his feet.
If that Vishnu is a big imigination, where's the importnace of shaligram bei it in UP or Makka. So go easy on these ppl.
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