Dost Mittar January 24, 2008
#362 Posted by nazarhayatkhan on February 7, 2008 8:53:48 pm
Salim # 294
(There is nothing wrong with the words "Allah" and "Hafiz" I used them both a lot and quite separately. But "Khuda Hafiz" was working fine and I just don't like dictators changing our language just to please their foreign masters)
Reminds me of Crown Prince of Jordan who is married to a Pakistani lady. He often travels to Pakistan.
When he heard PIA Airhostess saying `Allah Hafiz', he inquired why it has changed from `Khuda Hafiz'. She replied because it is an Arabic word.
He said that God can understand Persian as well.
Allah is a pre-islamic Arabic word for God/Ishwar.
NHK
(There is nothing wrong with the words "Allah" and "Hafiz" I used them both a lot and quite separately. But "Khuda Hafiz" was working fine and I just don't like dictators changing our language just to please their foreign masters)
Reminds me of Crown Prince of Jordan who is married to a Pakistani lady. He often travels to Pakistan.
When he heard PIA Airhostess saying `Allah Hafiz', he inquired why it has changed from `Khuda Hafiz'. She replied because it is an Arabic word.
He said that God can understand Persian as well.
Allah is a pre-islamic Arabic word for God/Ishwar.
NHK
#361 Posted by GT on February 7, 2008 6:04:25 am
#359 Posted by rahul_capri:
Rahul,
How is the retirement scheme in Goa going? :)
1. Elections. Like everywhere else. Though the issue of reservation is bound to crop up. Already, in both Pakistan and India one has around 30% reservation for women. This may be good or bad. A (perhaps unpublished) paper by Ester Duflo (see her web-page MIT Econ.) claims that it has helped development.
2. There are reasons to believe that it may perpetuate local power structures. At least in the short run. But they exist even today, so one cannot be worse off. However, if power in the states were to flow from panchayats, then there is every reason to see electoral competition in the panchayats. This in turn may weaken dominant elites. We have already seen such processes at the state level in several states and it is trues that power in the centre flows through states today. So we may expect the same to happen between panchayats and states.
Rahul,
How is the retirement scheme in Goa going? :)
1. Elections. Like everywhere else. Though the issue of reservation is bound to crop up. Already, in both Pakistan and India one has around 30% reservation for women. This may be good or bad. A (perhaps unpublished) paper by Ester Duflo (see her web-page MIT Econ.) claims that it has helped development.
2. There are reasons to believe that it may perpetuate local power structures. At least in the short run. But they exist even today, so one cannot be worse off. However, if power in the states were to flow from panchayats, then there is every reason to see electoral competition in the panchayats. This in turn may weaken dominant elites. We have already seen such processes at the state level in several states and it is trues that power in the centre flows through states today. So we may expect the same to happen between panchayats and states.
#360 Posted by nkg on February 6, 2008 6:44:33 pm
Re: # 356
even in islamic literature, inner jihad is considered superior to outer jihad.
Ans: What ever Mo had practised is outer jihad ( according to you, something called inner jihad is also there) and that tradition followed. Suddenly, if you try to invent inner jihad, that does not work.
even in islamic literature, inner jihad is considered superior to outer jihad.
Ans: What ever Mo had practised is outer jihad ( according to you, something called inner jihad is also there) and that tradition followed. Suddenly, if you try to invent inner jihad, that does not work.
#359 Posted by rahul_capri on February 6, 2008 6:09:20 pm
GT:
How do you propose to elect the office bearers of the panchayat? In an autonomous set-up,Don't you think they will derive from the local power structure and enable to perpetuate it?
The thing I like about it is that it will increase civic interaction between everyone.
How do you propose to elect the office bearers of the panchayat? In an autonomous set-up,Don't you think they will derive from the local power structure and enable to perpetuate it?
The thing I like about it is that it will increase civic interaction between everyone.
#358 Posted by asfand on February 6, 2008 1:31:44 pm
Definition of Hinduism as BG Tilak gave was " means or ways to salvation are diverse."
What Dost is saying is not to far from it. I tend to agree with it.
Asfand Siddiqui
What Dost is saying is not to far from it. I tend to agree with it.
Asfand Siddiqui
#357 Posted by Urstruly on February 6, 2008 5:05:44 am
HP
Militaries cannot win against a determined populace; if seven years of aggression of 37 states on Afghanistan does not prove that then what does. But situation in Pakistan is different than Afghanistan in the sense that Pakistan is not under occupation of a foreign aggression- it is the citizens that have rose up against their own army almost everywhere on the west bank of river Indus (and pressure cooker is about to burst at seams on East bank too). That has been happening for years now and despite Americans spending billions to kill pakistani citizens the situation has only got worst. Baluchistan is a case where militancy has been going on since 50s and military cannot stop it. Military could not stop East pakistan from turning into a foreign country. It is just plain and simple madness to keep doing the same thing while expecting different results. We should give politics a chance. Politics always wins over militancy. A sovereign parliament, an independent judiciary, and an accountable state machinery is the only option we have left short of firing squads and guilotine parks. Army should be sent back to the kennels.
Look, I know people like you are still licking your wounds that your former patron saint USSR suffered but times have changed. I belive that you people at the end of the day would want to live in Pakistan, and whom you are suggesting to kill now very well where you live.
#356 Posted by uba on February 6, 2008 4:23:06 am
#353
pakistan should go for "inner jihad" NOT "outer jihad"
infact the principle applies to all humanbeings at both individual & collective levels
even in islamic literature, inner jihad is considered superior to outer jihad.
pakistan should go for "inner jihad" NOT "outer jihad"
infact the principle applies to all humanbeings at both individual & collective levels
even in islamic literature, inner jihad is considered superior to outer jihad.
#355 Posted by raheel07 on February 6, 2008 12:58:00 am
I really like this article. It helped me to understand the coherence of Hinduism with other religions. You highlighted it without hurting any feelings of any religion.
There are some suggestions:
"OM" is more used then "Aum"
Formatting can be improved. Maybe there is some technical mistake or you might have done the formatting in this way by yourself. If you are putting something word to word use italics or you can still rephrase it. The whole bottom part in bold seems not the perfect way to format.
Great Article!!
-Raheel Lakhani
There are some suggestions:
"OM" is more used then "Aum"
Formatting can be improved. Maybe there is some technical mistake or you might have done the formatting in this way by yourself. If you are putting something word to word use italics or you can still rephrase it. The whole bottom part in bold seems not the perfect way to format.
Great Article!!
-Raheel Lakhani
#354 Posted by guru on February 6, 2008 12:00:18 am
Naqshbandi,
How did u find http://www.themystic.org/ .. this is Hinduism in action. This kind of practice created people like Vivekanand, Sri. Sri. Ravishankar, Swami Chinmayanand, Sarvapalli Radhakrishnan, Pt. Madan Mohan Malviya, Gandhi, Buddha, Saibabas (both) and many saints. If peek in successful Hindu household (Mukesh Ambani for example)you would see this in practice.
For a modern man Patanjali Yoga Sutra and Bhagwad Geeta is real Hinduism. Rituals, icons and idols are for Dharana ie concentration. Islam might have similar things. It has also produced great personalities and yogis. The core might be same as Hinduism.
How did u find http://www.themystic.org/ .. this is Hinduism in action. This kind of practice created people like Vivekanand, Sri. Sri. Ravishankar, Swami Chinmayanand, Sarvapalli Radhakrishnan, Pt. Madan Mohan Malviya, Gandhi, Buddha, Saibabas (both) and many saints. If peek in successful Hindu household (Mukesh Ambani for example)you would see this in practice.
For a modern man Patanjali Yoga Sutra and Bhagwad Geeta is real Hinduism. Rituals, icons and idols are for Dharana ie concentration. Islam might have similar things. It has also produced great personalities and yogis. The core might be same as Hinduism.
#353 Posted by zeemax on February 5, 2008 11:50:30 pm
346 Posted by HP
Pakistan must NOT and should NOT quit the WOT. What Pak can quit and should really quit is following the US line in the war.
Err ... and how does Pakistan do one while not doing the other ???
Pakistan must NOT and should NOT quit the WOT. What Pak can quit and should really quit is following the US line in the war.
Err ... and how does Pakistan do one while not doing the other ???
#352 Posted by zeemax on February 5, 2008 11:22:01 pm
#350 Posted by harish_hyd,
wasn't it you who not too long ago wanted Chowk to be made a paid site
Sure. But what convinced me what exactly chowk owners wanted was when they put google ads instead. So now when someone says "Gan*oo", google promptly serves up ads for 'Men seeking Men'!
wasn't it you who not too long ago wanted Chowk to be made a paid site
Sure. But what convinced me what exactly chowk owners wanted was when they put google ads instead. So now when someone says "Gan*oo", google promptly serves up ads for 'Men seeking Men'!
#351 Posted by nature_lover on February 5, 2008 11:09:35 pm
It may please be noted by all researchers and scholars of this board that spellings of cow's urine are "gomutra" and not "gaomutra"
---Thanks
---Thanks
#350 Posted by harish_hyd on February 5, 2008 7:44:22 pm
#324 by zeemax
I wish you would say something similar to your ill-informed c/p artists who have nothing better to offer. I would welcome them if they did.
I would, if they were as anguished as you are (or at least seemed to) about Chowk's slide.
And no, I don't want it to become a better place. I have no such inclination. Chowk is a gutter and will remain so because that's what it's owners want it to be.
Zee bhai, wasn't it you who not too long ago wanted Chowk to be made a paid site so only serious interactors stay and the rest are just filtered out?
I wish you would say something similar to your ill-informed c/p artists who have nothing better to offer. I would welcome them if they did.
I would, if they were as anguished as you are (or at least seemed to) about Chowk's slide.
And no, I don't want it to become a better place. I have no such inclination. Chowk is a gutter and will remain so because that's what it's owners want it to be.
Zee bhai, wasn't it you who not too long ago wanted Chowk to be made a paid site so only serious interactors stay and the rest are just filtered out?
#349 Posted by nkg on February 5, 2008 7:02:49 pm
Re: # 312
In India, Muslims have made a compromise, they are willing to accept a non-sharia criminal law as long as they are allowed to govern their personal lives according to sharia.
Ans: This is kind of freedom provided by Constitution of India to all the groups. Customs vary in different states and regions. So, personal laws are kept different. Marriage is one aspect, which Govt. has no role. It will be good to abolish polygamy and compulsory registration of marriage.
In India, Muslims have made a compromise, they are willing to accept a non-sharia criminal law as long as they are allowed to govern their personal lives according to sharia.
Ans: This is kind of freedom provided by Constitution of India to all the groups. Customs vary in different states and regions. So, personal laws are kept different. Marriage is one aspect, which Govt. has no role. It will be good to abolish polygamy and compulsory registration of marriage.
#348 Posted by nkg on February 5, 2008 7:02:48 pm
Re: # 312
In India, Muslims have made a compromise, they are willing to accept a non-sharia criminal law as long as they are allowed to govern their personal lives according to sharia.
Ans: This is kind of freedom provided by Constitution of India to all the groups. Customs vary in different states and regions. So, personal laws are kept different. Marriage is one aspect, which Govt. has no role. It will be good to abolish polygamy and compulsory registration of marriage.
In India, Muslims have made a compromise, they are willing to accept a non-sharia criminal law as long as they are allowed to govern their personal lives according to sharia.
Ans: This is kind of freedom provided by Constitution of India to all the groups. Customs vary in different states and regions. So, personal laws are kept different. Marriage is one aspect, which Govt. has no role. It will be good to abolish polygamy and compulsory registration of marriage.
#347 Posted by nkg on February 5, 2008 7:02:48 pm
Re: # 312
In India, Muslims have made a compromise, they are willing to accept a non-sharia criminal law as long as they are allowed to govern their personal lives according to sharia.
Ans: This is kind of freedom provided by Constitution of India to all the groups. Customs vary in different states and regions. So, personal laws are kept different. Marriage is one aspect, which Govt. has no role. It will be good to abolish polygamy and compulsory registration of marriage.
In India, Muslims have made a compromise, they are willing to accept a non-sharia criminal law as long as they are allowed to govern their personal lives according to sharia.
Ans: This is kind of freedom provided by Constitution of India to all the groups. Customs vary in different states and regions. So, personal laws are kept different. Marriage is one aspect, which Govt. has no role. It will be good to abolish polygamy and compulsory registration of marriage.
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