What is Hinduism? A Personal View

#248 Posted by dost_mittar,

Dost, it is a great article. Very well thought out, honest, and precise. Thanks for taking out the time to write it.

#243 Posted by tahir,

... sigh ... Tahir Saheb this is an anti-religion site. If you attack homos or lesbians, you'll be promptly banned, but insulting prophets or Sita or whatever (I myself have posted paintings of Hanuman sodomising Sita with its tail) is just fine.

You would do better by just ignoring these low-lifes, which are in abundance over here. I call them cockroaches.

zeemax#242:

I see that you are reading the interacts on this Board. Have you read the article? Any comments?

Re: # 233
What value are you referring to Fisrt Officer NHK?
Your name sounds sooooo Muslim, yet you say thanks to all these insulting interacts.

Urstruly#241:

The point I was making was that there is no ban on making idols; of course some Hindus do make such a deduction, as you did, and they don't indulge in idol worship.

As regards the corruption of original message of One God, all I can say is that the concept of multiple gods is in the most ancient Hindu book, the Rigveda, while the formless God is mentioned in the later Upnishadas. I would be more inclined to think that the thinking of the Hindu sages evolved from worshipping elements of nature in Rigveda to a more abstract God in the upanishadas.

As regards the Hindu Trinity, modern Hindu reformers have interpreted it in the way you have mentioned, namely, that it is really the three manifestations of the attributes of God.

tahir#243:

You may not have noticed but I did appeal to at least one person to spare this board of his hateful cut-and-paste, but with little effect.

P.S. I don't know what Jehangir era grudges you are referring to.

Re: # 197

Surprising you directly or indirectly worship dudes, not gods or godesses?

Reply to 179 & 180:

Please refrain from attacking persons who are very dear to over a billion Muslims.

How would you like an assault on Raam/Sita and the rest?

Please don't show that you've had poor training at home and bad education at school. Why expose yourself thinking that you're earning a reward for bad-mouthing a Prophet?

I strongly condemn the attitude of the CHOWK editors for acting like agents provocateur.

And Dost Mittar, wake up, don't keep grudges of Jehangir's era. Rise and defend. This is your article's interact; you must ask these agents to go serve humanity instead of being thorns in its side.

May all who bad-mouth Islam one day realise what a grave mistake they are making.

Shanti.

#240 Posted by Urstruly,

You would jealously guard your imaan (faith).

I'm surprised you still haven't understood SR Saheb jealously guards faithfreedom.org, not 'Faith'.

Just thought I would take a swipe :)

Re: # 223 Dost

I am quite surprised at your response. All the verses that I have quoted in my #215 from Hindu religious text clearly points out that He cannot be likened (or equated) to another. Now as I understand it one of the core Hindu belief of Hinduism is the concept of Awatar. The first tier of Awatars is the three gods the Creator, the Destroyer, and the Maintainer (Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva). As long as the concept would have been limited to the idea that these three are the Attributes of an Absolute Ishwar everything would have been just fine and consistent with the religious text. But on the other hand these three gentlemen are considered gods themeselves with their independent and unique personalities; which renders all of them including Ishwar as a non-absolute dieties. This open up the labyrinth of deceit that if three gods are below Ishwar then why cant there be 10 gods above Ishwar. This concept has evolved into about 30 million gods that are currently being worshipped in Hinduism. Every year new gods emerge, like Sai Baba for one, and die like all all mortals leading humans astray from the righteous path.

So if one part of the religious text commands for a formless Absolute God and the other part commands, in the same breath, a multiple diety system then obviously either the text has been corrupted or it has never been Divine.

Divine path has to be simple and non-contrdictory so that the mere mortals, for whom it is meant, could understand it.

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I am currently not in Pakistan, and thank God for that.

Re: # 231 SR

You are elaborating the concept of jealousy in human terms i.e. how we feel. God is not just another human. He is God. He is Absolute; which makes Him above the feelings of love, hate, anger, jealousy and so on and so forth. As a matter of fact God does not even need our devotion, worship and love. It is us who need His blessing, His compassion, and His mercy.

But since God communicates with us, whom He has created with limited attributes and an ever evolving intellect He speaks to us in the terms that we would understand. We do not relate to Absoluteness very well because our limited intellect (at a certain point of time) cannot over come the paradoxes that it encounters; yet we can relate very well to concepts of love, hate, anger etc. This is our limitation and hence God is above that.

Look, in the bigger scheme of things the Divine Plan is quite simple. The plan is that that this world is like an examination center where man has to pass tests every step of the way. This is an open book test where all the right answers and wrong answers have already been given to man and he is given the choice to chose between right answer and wrong answer.

The Divine Plan or Divine Test has to be very simple so that even the lowest common denominator would understand it. What I said above does not need a philosopher, a brahmin, a sufi, or an Einstein to undersatnd. It is so very simple. Even an agnostic like Buddha understood it very well. An atheist understand sit very well when he talks about the consequences of actions. So that was my point all along that if you consider God to be Absolute you would never ever even imagine to think about likeness of Him. You would jealously guard your imaan (faith).

Hinduism being a “evolved” religion as opposed to the “created” nature of the abrahamic religions, will survive these religions. The worst of the times for Hinduism is over.

It will be the turn of these Abrahamic religions to face free flow of information now. Abrahamic religions being dogmatic , will find it tough evolve with time.. because it is against their nature.

I am surprised to see muslims talking about formless, omnipresent God.
Why then you need to pray heading towards specific location, if God is formless. Does the direction of sitiing matters?
Why you need to go to pilgrimage and furthermore to throw stone only (not for any constructive activity)?

Need some enlightment...

""The Hindus never built any holy city or temple or regarded any river in the current Pakistan sacred.

Ans: Entire area has rich indian heritage. Panini, the sanskrit scholar was from Taxila. He is from pre-budhdhist era. Whereever islam enters, they destryos in such extent that, it is very difficult to find trace of civilisation. In entire north India and gangetic plane, you will not find large temple. Does that imply, there were no trace of indian culture (hindu) before british left?
Baluchistan had rich heritage of Devi ( Goddess worshipping) puja. During british period, Hinglaj ( one of the Shakti Peethas) was frequented by pilgrims.

Re: # 221
It was brought out by some people.
As per my knowledge, human pollutes more than any other animal. Animals are at most vectors.
Temple animals are kept with utmost care and generally people keep Elephant, Peacock, snake etc.. Beauty of this philosophy, is, it preserves flora and fauna properly. Barbaric islam may not recognize it. One person had given me one funda- Apart from pork allah has created all other animals and birds as to feed human beeing.

"In the 7th century, Multan was conquered along with Sindh by the army of Muhammad bin Qasim, following bin Qasim's conquest, the city was securely under Muslim rule, although it was in effect an independent state.The city was attacked twice by Mahmud of Ghazni who destroyed the Sun Temple and broke its giant Idol. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multan