Pervez Hoodbhoy January 27, 2008
#38 Posted by jayp on January 29, 2008 12:11:08 am
IN an interview with the Wall Street Journal, President Pervez Musharraf said: “Please differentiate Pakistan from banana republics” where a lowly colonel can take over the state. “These things don’t happen in Pakistan” (Jan 25).
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Pakistan has teh same approach regarding research, it is not the lowly student who plagiarises, it is teh professors who are doing it to get more money. In pakistan there are no banana universities, they are only in banana republics.
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Pakistan has teh same approach regarding research, it is not the lowly student who plagiarises, it is teh professors who are doing it to get more money. In pakistan there are no banana universities, they are only in banana republics.
#37 Posted by jayp on January 28, 2008 11:48:22 pm
Pervez,
I wish you all the best for your tireless efforts to improve Pakistan. But the system is rotten at the core.
Mushy dismisses a few judges, appoints new ones who over turn all of the earlier judgements. Is there something called precedence rules, jurisprudence in Pak legal system.
200 soldiers led by a colonel surrenders to a few jihadis. The military negotiates and gets their release. Is there any notion of valor in the pak army.
Wheat production is exaggerated, wheat is exported and now there is shortage. T%hen there is the latest, industrial production is exagerated. No one can believe any numbers.
Last week professor and head of department of Punjab uni is caught for plagiarism.
Bhutto is shot dead and the president says she killed herself by banging on a car part.
Pervez, in such a society is it possible to have any scientific enquiry.
Wish you the best.
I wish you all the best for your tireless efforts to improve Pakistan. But the system is rotten at the core.
Mushy dismisses a few judges, appoints new ones who over turn all of the earlier judgements. Is there something called precedence rules, jurisprudence in Pak legal system.
200 soldiers led by a colonel surrenders to a few jihadis. The military negotiates and gets their release. Is there any notion of valor in the pak army.
Wheat production is exaggerated, wheat is exported and now there is shortage. T%hen there is the latest, industrial production is exagerated. No one can believe any numbers.
Last week professor and head of department of Punjab uni is caught for plagiarism.
Bhutto is shot dead and the president says she killed herself by banging on a car part.
Pervez, in such a society is it possible to have any scientific enquiry.
Wish you the best.
#36 Posted by nkg on January 28, 2008 10:58:52 pm
Re: # 33
He also made major contributions to the fields of algebra, trigonometry, astronomy/astrology, geography and cartography. His systematic and logical approach to solving linear and quadratic equations gave shape to the discipline of algebra, a word that is derived from the name of his 830 book on the subject, Hisab al-jabr wa al-muqabala (حساب الجبر و المقابلة).
Ans: Quadratic and other similar equations originated in India. Sridharacharya is father of quadratic equation.So, the information here is not correct.
He also made major contributions to the fields of algebra, trigonometry, astronomy/astrology, geography and cartography. His systematic and logical approach to solving linear and quadratic equations gave shape to the discipline of algebra, a word that is derived from the name of his 830 book on the subject, Hisab al-jabr wa al-muqabala (حساب الجبر و المقابلة).
Ans: Quadratic and other similar equations originated in India. Sridharacharya is father of quadratic equation.So, the information here is not correct.
#35 Posted by haideri on January 28, 2008 10:17:11 pm
Baysharmo,
Kissay Baysharam Noo Kissay Banday Aakhiya....Teri Bund Tay Boota Ugyaa....Baysharam Aakhiya Chalo Changa Aay, Chanvaan Bavaan Gaa
Kissay Baysharam Noo Kissay Banday Aakhiya....Teri Bund Tay Boota Ugyaa....Baysharam Aakhiya Chalo Changa Aay, Chanvaan Bavaan Gaa
#34 Posted by haideri on January 28, 2008 9:51:32 pm
Also search for
Alhazen
Geber
Ibn Sina
Al-Biruni
Ibn Rushd
Al-Battani
Al-Farghani
on either Wikipedia or Indopedia
haideri
Alhazen
Geber
Ibn Sina
Al-Biruni
Ibn Rushd
Al-Battani
Al-Farghani
on either Wikipedia or Indopedia
haideri
#33 Posted by haideri on January 28, 2008 9:13:47 pm
My dear Indian Crack Team,
Please read about dude in question on your own website.
http://www.indopedia.org/Al-Khwarizmi.html
haideri
Please read about dude in question on your own website.
http://www.indopedia.org/Al-Khwarizmi.html
haideri
#32 Posted by arjun_5 on January 28, 2008 8:44:06 pm
#31 Posted by nkg on January 28, 2008 8:08:24 pm
Muslims, a long long time ago, did contribute a lot. Some mo abu-whatever masadi posted about took knowledge from india to europe..all that is commendable...but masadi claims he invented algebra and things that were of indian origin, like the place value system and zero, were actually insignificant..which is funny considering the book he wrote and took to the west was called the hindu numeric system or something like that.
Muslims, a long long time ago, did contribute a lot. Some mo abu-whatever masadi posted about took knowledge from india to europe..all that is commendable...but masadi claims he invented algebra and things that were of indian origin, like the place value system and zero, were actually insignificant..which is funny considering the book he wrote and took to the west was called the hindu numeric system or something like that.
#31 Posted by nkg on January 28, 2008 8:08:24 pm
Re: # 24
I think this is core of Islam. Steal from somebody and claim as owner of it.
Entire Indian mathematics, they claim their own.
Trigonometry, Number System, Grammar,Beejaganita ( which is now known as Alzebra), various forms of equiations and problem solving methods.
I think this is core of Islam. Steal from somebody and claim as owner of it.
Entire Indian mathematics, they claim their own.
Trigonometry, Number System, Grammar,Beejaganita ( which is now known as Alzebra), various forms of equiations and problem solving methods.
#30 Posted by nkg on January 28, 2008 6:45:22 pm
Re: # 23
Nuke technology in both India and Pakistan are from Western Countries. Indian nuke has its origin in Russia. Paki is from Canada and Sweeden. A Q Khan, who stolen the technology from Western Countries was covetedly ignored by USA.
Regarding defence technology, India is still trying acquire some technology ( LCA, Kaveri Engine, GSLV etc...). Entire Pakistani (so called) technology is from China and North Korea, who in turn has got it from Russia.
A country which can not produce a decent car can not indegenously develop sophisticated technology (whatever you claim).
Nuke technology in both India and Pakistan are from Western Countries. Indian nuke has its origin in Russia. Paki is from Canada and Sweeden. A Q Khan, who stolen the technology from Western Countries was covetedly ignored by USA.
Regarding defence technology, India is still trying acquire some technology ( LCA, Kaveri Engine, GSLV etc...). Entire Pakistani (so called) technology is from China and North Korea, who in turn has got it from Russia.
A country which can not produce a decent car can not indegenously develop sophisticated technology (whatever you claim).
#29 Posted by arjun_5 on January 28, 2008 4:33:16 pm
#28 Posted by sattar2 on January 28, 2008 1:29:56 pm
what has IBM stolen? or intel for that matter?
what has IBM stolen? or intel for that matter?
#28 Posted by sattar2 on January 28, 2008 1:29:56 pm
bubba,
Don't knock chor bazaari; this is how most corporations - IBMs and Intels of the world, function. Knowing what to steal and how to steal it is genuine talent. Don't knock it till you've tried it ...
Don't knock chor bazaari; this is how most corporations - IBMs and Intels of the world, function. Knowing what to steal and how to steal it is genuine talent. Don't knock it till you've tried it ...
#27 Posted by bubba on January 28, 2008 10:26:20 am
Re: # 23 Posted by Kamath on January 28, 2008 5:49:41 am
Kamath sahib,
[how come Pakistani scientists or engineers could build Nukes, Missiles, etc.?] By stealing and chor bazaari. Is that in your equation of excellence?
Kamath sahib,
[how come Pakistani scientists or engineers could build Nukes, Missiles, etc.?] By stealing and chor bazaari. Is that in your equation of excellence?
#26 Posted by iron_mask on January 28, 2008 7:18:49 am
Re: # 5 "I believe the students should be given practical training to solve the society problem. I would prefer to train a student how to slaughter a chicken hygienically than ask him/her to write a paper that has no relevance to our problems."
That is a very patronising and lop-sided view nangapir - you need a healthy mix for the progress.
That is a very patronising and lop-sided view nangapir - you need a healthy mix for the progress.
#25 Posted by DrDr on January 28, 2008 7:14:29 am
#5 Nangapir
Plz tell us more - fill in the juicy bits
whats her name - nationality? How does Dr. Atta know her, etc etc
Plz tell us more - fill in the juicy bits
whats her name - nationality? How does Dr. Atta know her, etc etc
#24 Posted by arjun_5 on January 28, 2008 6:11:00 am
#23 Posted by Kamath on January 28, 2008 5:49:41 am
It's simple..they didn't. Their missiles were built by the chinese and north koreans..pakis just painted them over..nuclear bombs aren't exactly cutting edge technology.
ask yourself: if the pakis are so good at the missile stuff, why haven't they launched a satellite..why are they reduced to renting out 3rd hand hughes POS satellites and calling them paksat?
It's simple..they didn't. Their missiles were built by the chinese and north koreans..pakis just painted them over..nuclear bombs aren't exactly cutting edge technology.
ask yourself: if the pakis are so good at the missile stuff, why haven't they launched a satellite..why are they reduced to renting out 3rd hand hughes POS satellites and calling them paksat?
#23 Posted by Kamath on January 28, 2008 5:49:41 am
Re: # 3
Arjun! Tell me then how come Pakistani scientists or engineers could build Nukes, Missiles, etc.? Is it possible to build them without excellant content in graduates of Pak. Universities.?
Kamath
Arjun! Tell me then how come Pakistani scientists or engineers could build Nukes, Missiles, etc.? Is it possible to build them without excellant content in graduates of Pak. Universities.?
Kamath
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