Bullhe Shah and His Veil of “Meem�

Criticism of Ghulam Ahmad Parvaiz is correct as this 'merging of self with God (Atma aur Pramatma)' and 'I am the Truth' are purely Indian philosophical thoughts.
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Arabic Meem is म which is also a reference to माया (Maya) .

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"Masjad dha dey, mandar dha dey, dha dey jo kuchh dhai’n da
Par kissi da dil na dhai’n, Rabb dilaa’n vich rehnda

(Demolish the mosque, demolish the temple and demolish what else you can, But do not break anybody’s heart because God dwells in there.)"

God dwelling in the "heart" is a very Hindu concept. For example Brihadaranyaka Upanishad 4:4.22-23 says-

"The soul is not born, but always exists. It is the consciousness of life, and dwells in every "heart"; it is the master of all, the lord of all."

"Masjad dha dey, mandar dha dey, dha dey jo kuchh dhai’n da
Par kissi da dil na dhai’n, Rabb dilaa’n vich rehnda

(Demolish the mosque, demolish the temple and demolish what else you can, But do not break anybody’s heart because God dwells in there.)"

God dwelling in the "heart" is a very Hindu concept. For example Brihadaranyaka Upanishad 4:4.22-23 says-

"The soul is not born, but always exists. It is the consciousness of life, and dwells in every "heart"; it is the master of all, the lord of all."

"If you see the soul in every living being, you see truly. If you see immortality in the heart of every mortal being, you see truly. If you see God within every man and woman, then you can never do harm to any man or woman. If you see God in yourself, then you attain perfection."

Gita

The soul is smaller than a grain of rice, smaller than a grain of barley, smaller than a mustard seed, smaller than a grain of millet, smaller even than the kernel of a grain of millet. Thus the "heart" has room for the soul. The soul is also larger than the earth, larger than the sky, larger than the entire universe.

Chandogya Upanishad 3: 14.1-4

Mr. Gill,are you condoning and promoting Sufic actions and thought here? Are you in love with deviant 'saints'?
Happy whirling.

tahir, what's so 'saintly' about any of this? Is merely whirling enough to turn someone into an Islamic 'saint'?

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laddu, eight consecutive posts! You may be getting unnecessarily enthused.

Any pre-pubscent Hindu teen knows and understands things better. There is no need to bring in the Gita or the Upnishads here.

The only thing 'good' one can say about BS was that although he was an Arab, being born in Pujab, he provided some political help to indigenous peoples, and was something of a poet (and dancer?).

Even that assumes, unfairly, that Arabs and/or Muslims cannot be generous and poetic (and dance-loving) without being 'saints.'

Re: # 11

Oye,

"Any pre-pubscent Hindu teen knows and understands things better. There is no need to bring in the Gita or the Upnishads here."

You are a Paki and probably do not know about "things" here.
Not to talk about Gita or Upanishad about which you probably have no idea!!

Re: # 11

"tahir, what's so 'saintly' about any of this? Is merely whirling enough to turn someone into an Islamic 'saint'?"

Now you are exposing too much of your ignorance.
You probably have no idea about sufism or philosophia perennis or gnostic traditions across civilizations.

You are too much, laddu :)

Be fair. People don't need to read the Gita or the Upnishads or philosophia pennis to act as 'good' human beings. One can live in the jungles of Borneo and read nothing but messages encoded in bird droppings in order to help others and break into a dance every now and then.

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You are a Paki and probably do not know about "things" here. Not to talk about Gita or Upanishad about which you probably have no idea!!Now you are exposing too much of your ignorance. You probably have no idea about sufism or philosophia perennis or gnostic traditions across civilizations.

Haha!

Eklavya,

I knew if this board doesn't draw you in, nothing will!

But honestly, to be fair to Gill Saheb, my impression on reading this article was that he resolved a genuine curiosity in his own mind, did research, and felt elated on finding the answer - which is admirable.

The other possibility is having given up on atheism, he's now exploring sufigiri. That would be some progress I guess if it was true!