Ahmer Muzammil February 9, 2008
#122 Posted by bulleya on February 13, 2008 6:04:06 am
tahmad #: i am not sure if ppp can support an independent judiciary......nawaz has already been prosecuted for the cases against him, and has been punished.......however, the cases against zardari are still pending.....
if a really true independent judiciary comes in, it would prosecute zardari.......along with musharraf.......
so, my guess is musharraf will offer ppp an nro, in return ppp will be allowed to form the govt. in some sort of an alliance with mqm and pml-q, and will be asked to give indemnity to musharraf.....basically the same deal that musharraf offered bb...
in addition, elections will not be rigged against ppp, but will be heavily rigged against pml-n in favor of pml-q.....so ppp will not complain and pml-n will be left out in the cold.....
if a really true independent judiciary comes in, it would prosecute zardari.......along with musharraf.......
so, my guess is musharraf will offer ppp an nro, in return ppp will be allowed to form the govt. in some sort of an alliance with mqm and pml-q, and will be asked to give indemnity to musharraf.....basically the same deal that musharraf offered bb...
in addition, elections will not be rigged against ppp, but will be heavily rigged against pml-n in favor of pml-q.....so ppp will not complain and pml-n will be left out in the cold.....
#121 Posted by bulleya on February 13, 2008 5:59:37 am
majumdar/ananth#: .....obama needs a white southern vp, who is from a decisive state and is not a liberal.....democrats will win two of the three big states - california and new york.....however, they will lose texas.......so someone from texas would be a good candidate.......however, i don't think democrats can win texas even with a candidate from texas....
this leave florida.....florida can go either way.....neck and neck.....and it is a big state......so perhaps a WASP democrat with conservative credentials from florida.......someone with a military background with expertise in that space and a desire to bomb others would be an added asset......
...so a conservatively centrist WASP male democrat with military experience, who likes bombing other countries, from florida......a good balance to obama......
this leave florida.....florida can go either way.....neck and neck.....and it is a big state......so perhaps a WASP democrat with conservative credentials from florida.......someone with a military background with expertise in that space and a desire to bomb others would be an added asset......
...so a conservatively centrist WASP male democrat with military experience, who likes bombing other countries, from florida......a good balance to obama......
#120 Posted by tahmed32 on February 13, 2008 5:54:20 am
more bad news for general mqm mush..more good news for Pakistanis...
PML-N offers help to PPP in forming govt
By Amjad Mahmood (Dawn)
LAHORE, Feb 12: The PML-N has assured the PPP of its support in the process of forming government without seeking a share in power, well-placed sources in both parties say.
The assurance was made by PML-N chief Mian Nawaz Sharif during a meeting with PPP co-chairman Asif Ali Zardari who had called on him on Tuesday evening....Mr Sharif expressed the hope that the PPP would support his party’s stance on the issue of restoration of deposed judges and the implementation of the Charter of Democracy he and Benazir Bhutto had signed in London in 2006.
PML-N offers help to PPP in forming govt
By Amjad Mahmood (Dawn)
LAHORE, Feb 12: The PML-N has assured the PPP of its support in the process of forming government without seeking a share in power, well-placed sources in both parties say.
The assurance was made by PML-N chief Mian Nawaz Sharif during a meeting with PPP co-chairman Asif Ali Zardari who had called on him on Tuesday evening....Mr Sharif expressed the hope that the PPP would support his party’s stance on the issue of restoration of deposed judges and the implementation of the Charter of Democracy he and Benazir Bhutto had signed in London in 2006.
#118 Posted by masadi on February 13, 2008 3:10:40 am
Please don't ask stupid questions and then try to get sarcastic when you cannot reply to the answers. Exit polls in ohio put Kerry way ahead of Bush, irregularities of the voting machines manufactured by the fool's corporate donors and friends, the only explanation of this discrepancy, tell me what tipped it in his favor.
#117 Posted by majumdar on February 13, 2008 2:59:04 am
Masadi sahib,
Welcome back.
(stole the elections from Kerry)
Who stole the elections from Kerry?
Regards
Welcome back.
(stole the elections from Kerry)
Who stole the elections from Kerry?
Regards
#116 Posted by masadi on February 13, 2008 2:57:06 am
kaiser writes "The sec he merges with hillary he will lose his votebase and thus become useless to her."
That wont happen, the base will go where the elite want them to go, which might involve being "lost" in a machine, just as they did when they got rid of Dean and stole the elections from Kerry inspite of the exit polls...
That wont happen, the base will go where the elite want them to go, which might involve being "lost" in a machine, just as they did when they got rid of Dean and stole the elections from Kerry inspite of the exit polls...
#115 Posted by masadi on February 13, 2008 2:54:09 am
hamid writes "if hillary wins, i will move to canada or throw myslef under a truck..."
The second option sounds more interesting don't you think? provided the poor truck isn't damaged going over your fat a__. Very respectfully submitted.....not!
The second option sounds more interesting don't you think? provided the poor truck isn't damaged going over your fat a__. Very respectfully submitted.....not!
#114 Posted by Ananth07 on February 12, 2008 11:55:08 pm
edwards could not carry his state in 2004 …. No point having him on the democrat tucket. Obama needs some other southern WASP govrenor as a running mate.
#113 Posted by majumdar on February 12, 2008 11:11:56 pm
Romair,
or perhaps someone from florida as that is a deciding state in presidential elections........
Is Jeb still the Guv? Will he rig elections for an outsider?
Regards
or perhaps someone from florida as that is a deciding state in presidential elections........
Is Jeb still the Guv? Will he rig elections for an outsider?
Regards
#112 Posted by bulleya on February 12, 2008 11:09:02 pm
...it is very difficult for sitting congressmen (and women) to win presidential elections, in the usa......it hasn't happened for a while.....
w bush was a governor.....bill clinton was a governor....bush sr. was a vp.....reagan was a governor......carter was governor georgia till 75 (?)....nixon was vice president.......johnson was vice president......
so if my info is correct, one would have to go back to kennedy to find a sitting senator (or house member) who became president.......
in addition, it has been impossible for a democrat from the north of usa to win an election......bill clinton was from the midwest/south (arkansas)......carter was from the south (georgia).....johnson was from the south (texas)....
once again, one would have to go back to kennedy to find a democrat from the north (massachussetts) who won a presidential election......
so a sitting democrat congressman from the north should have no chance to win an election......while a republican from the south should have every chance.....
however, thing are different now.......all three candidates - mccain, hillary and obama - are sitting senators......and both the democratic candidates are from the north (obama from illinois and hillary from new york)......
based on this, if either hillary or obama win, they would need democrat from the south as a strong vp candidate......to get in line with the historical trends....and preferably one, who is not a sitting congressman.......
how about an obama-gore ticket.......gore is from the south (tennessee) and is not a sitting senator......or obama-edwards.......
or perhaps someone from florida as that is a deciding state in presidential elections........
w bush was a governor.....bill clinton was a governor....bush sr. was a vp.....reagan was a governor......carter was governor georgia till 75 (?)....nixon was vice president.......johnson was vice president......
so if my info is correct, one would have to go back to kennedy to find a sitting senator (or house member) who became president.......
in addition, it has been impossible for a democrat from the north of usa to win an election......bill clinton was from the midwest/south (arkansas)......carter was from the south (georgia).....johnson was from the south (texas)....
once again, one would have to go back to kennedy to find a democrat from the north (massachussetts) who won a presidential election......
so a sitting democrat congressman from the north should have no chance to win an election......while a republican from the south should have every chance.....
however, thing are different now.......all three candidates - mccain, hillary and obama - are sitting senators......and both the democratic candidates are from the north (obama from illinois and hillary from new york)......
based on this, if either hillary or obama win, they would need democrat from the south as a strong vp candidate......to get in line with the historical trends....and preferably one, who is not a sitting congressman.......
how about an obama-gore ticket.......gore is from the south (tennessee) and is not a sitting senator......or obama-edwards.......
or perhaps someone from florida as that is a deciding state in presidential elections........
#111 Posted by Ananth07 on February 12, 2008 9:16:28 pm
Majumdar,
Will Hillary agree to being a VP ???... Obama has the momentum now…. If we look at the low turnout to the repub primaries…. They have very hard work ahead of them
Will Hillary agree to being a VP ???... Obama has the momentum now…. If we look at the low turnout to the repub primaries…. They have very hard work ahead of them
#110 Posted by majumdar on February 12, 2008 8:43:18 pm
Ananth,
Cud a Hillary-Obama ticket stall the Reps. I am assuming that the loser of the Dem race wud agree to be VP candidate.
Regards
Cud a Hillary-Obama ticket stall the Reps. I am assuming that the loser of the Dem race wud agree to be VP candidate.
Regards
#109 Posted by Ananth07 on February 12, 2008 8:39:03 pm
Obama is forging ahead... i f we look at the turnout to the democrat primaries .. which is many times the repub turnout... he seems to be vreating a "hawa"...
Only way mccain can counter this is by getting a conservative, hispanic running mate... who cna get votes of both these groups...
Every passing day America looks more like the sub-continent
Only way mccain can counter this is by getting a conservative, hispanic running mate... who cna get votes of both these groups...
Every passing day America looks more like the sub-continent
#108 Posted by majumdar on February 12, 2008 8:22:39 pm
Zeenaji,
Looks like Obama is forging ahead fast in the Prez race. You need to get more active in the electoral process, maybe you cud contribute a FP article on Am Paki/Momin choices in the current elections.
Regards
Looks like Obama is forging ahead fast in the Prez race. You need to get more active in the electoral process, maybe you cud contribute a FP article on Am Paki/Momin choices in the current elections.
Regards
#107 Posted by Zeena on February 12, 2008 8:19:36 pm
Santani sahib
I understand there are lots of typos in my #43 post. B/c I have been working since 4 days and nights. I apologize for some errors, which i recognized right now.
Well, thanks for pointing out my errors.
In future I'll try to give you an upscale English which suits your kind of Brits or English Gentlemen.
BTW, which Brit family are you from?
I understand there are lots of typos in my #43 post. B/c I have been working since 4 days and nights. I apologize for some errors, which i recognized right now.
Well, thanks for pointing out my errors.
In future I'll try to give you an upscale English which suits your kind of Brits or English Gentlemen.
BTW, which Brit family are you from?
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