American Muslims and Presidential Elections 2008

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Re: # 86

chaltahai,

... i woun't comment on the rest of your post, but i do agree that cousin marriage is one of the reasons for the ummah's stupidity ......

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Re: # 84

chaltahai,

.... i think mccain too needs to move a little bit to the right so that he doesn't piss off the conservative wing of the party .... obama is fine where he is - acutually, there is little difference between him and mccain on most issues and i am sure he will do the right think in this war on terror if he is elected (god forbid) ......

Hamza, think, while it might impossible, from your cousin marriage produced brain for a second...US policy doesn't change that quickly not should it. Since 9/11...there is a concerted effort on part of the US to destablize or destroy Muslim centers of power or peceived power. Afghanistan and Iraq are one aspect, Palestine has been halved yet again...Pakistan is teetering...Iran is next. Gulf arabs are paying awesome premiums to market buy subsidizing certain underperforming US assets through bailouts meanwhile the investments into alternative energy sources is doubling year over year. This means that gradually over time...the only asset the arabs will be left holding is a stockpile of crude (since they can't extract by themselves) and the world would have moved on to Hydrogen fuel cell driven cars. the future is bright...for the muslim world..one suide bomb at a time.

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I agree with Hamid, that once Obama is vying for the white house against Mccain, it will force McCain to move a bit to the left and Obama to the right. I hope for McCain to win as the "war on terror" needs to continue (not that Obama would do any thing different), but we need to ensure that the fight is continuing overseas. US presence in Muslim world needs to increase not decrease. laaton kay bhoot baaton say nahin maantay

Calm down Hamid Masih you wont have to rush to your demise, hillary aint winning. Bama is the next prez, there wont be any wholesale changes, no social revolution, nothing of that sort....it will be business as usual for the most part with subtle changes maybe....he is just the lesser evil from the perspective of the poor of this country. if he tried to do the right thing in middle east someone would rush to suk his dick in oval officen it would lewinski all over again...so i dont think we the Muslims can expect any fairness on a large scale from him so u can calm your neo-con blood thirsty boyfriends...like i said at the most he will be a lesser evil.

As for obama saying that he would bomb pakistan, i would bomb pakistan if pakistan is the mess that it is. If pakistan doesnt want to others interfering in their matters than they should start telling pakistan army to stop meddling in affairs that doesnt concern them, namely judiciary. Have a functioning country and institutions and maybe the rest of the world wouldnt treat u like a brat and whoop u every chance they get. Apni shalwar uttar kay khRay hoggay bharay bazar mein bhai too majma too lagay gaa phir.....

Re: # 80

romair bewakoof!

... i did support mccain in the 2000 election but he didn't win the nomination ..... i am glad he is still alive otherwise we might have been stuck with huckster huckbee with his guitar and bible, the moron from massachusets who is a bigger flip-flopper than joh kerry, or that mobster from new york whose only claim to fame is that he happened to be in town on 9/11 ........... thank god for mccain

........ if hillary wins, i will move to canada or throw myslef under a truck ....... i can't stand that woman! ..... as my daughter says, "she would kill chelsea and bill and her mama to be president" ..... and besides, she has fat legs .....

fuzair #: mccain is a misfit in his own party.....barring his support for wars, there is nothing he has in common with republicans...specifically the hard core relgious right, which still runs the republican party.....

unfortunately, for republicans, their symbol of religious right - i.e. bush - has turned out to be such a disaster that no one who follows the same line can get elected......

so basically, the usa currently has two liberal democrat - obama and hilary - and one liberal republican running for presidency......

obama will beat the crap out of mccain on the iraq war alone.......mccain wants to send more troops in!!.....

the center will lean to the left this time....last time bush barely won, with a split center.......it is going to be very difficult for mccain to beat any democrat.....had their been no bush of eight years, any republican would have destroyed any democrat....

hamidm mian #: "...hillary simply because she is a woman and all men are scum.....and i support mccain because i think he is good man..."

i told you a long time ago to support mccain.....when he was running against bush, eight years ago!!

if you and othere republicans had supported mccain then, bush would have lost, and the republicans would have ruled, and would still be ruling.....

america is a heavily conservative country, which was getting more and more conservative....there is no way a democrat should be able to win.......

yet now democrats are about to rule......house, senate and presidency......

You may have missed this, but i am not buying the last great hope story anyway. I am saying that obamas current popularity stems from people dumb or desperate to believe he is the anti-clinton. The sec he merges with hillary he will lose his votebase and thus become useless to her.
So, in short, it will never happen.

goodnight, enough posts for today....

Read #76 "when he vetting process " as

"when the vetting process"

btw if you consider congressmen as being members of the elite you are sadly mistaken, that might be a place where the political elite that later float into the corporate (private) arena are vetted but they certainly do not form the core of the US elite that I talk about. Get a grip on who the decision makers are not the rats that submit to the executive that decides for the corporate/military/political nexus in the US

Kaiser writes "Obama's wife has stated publically that he will not run another campaign. That was a deliberate refusal to be considered good VP material. "

Only a damn fool running for nomination of his party will own up to being a VP candidate- don't be so naive. There is no "hope and change" when he vetting process that brought Obama to where he is, makes change near impossible. The change shit is all a facade to keep the rats running around in the wheels that have been provided for them

Obama's wife has stated publically that he will not run another campaign. That was a deliberate refusal to be considered good VP material.

The clintons are putting out the whole clinton obama team thing out there so undecideds will feel better about voting for clinton and not shutting out obama at the same time.

Obama is running on a fantasy that wont withstand the light of day anyway, but if he runs with the clintons his "hope and change" message is done for, and he doesnt have another shtick.