Agha Amin March 10, 2008
#631 Posted by akcheema on March 21, 2008 12:18:34 am
Re: # 630; Zee bhai
nothing like a bit of old "Baala Kashmiri" to put some lead in the pencil eh?!
Perhaps ".....Lahu garm karne ka hai ik bahaana".
you said "I'm in!!!". In what paaji? "w_____t P_______s"(?)
I hope you'd see the funny side...comeon man, give me a break!
nothing like a bit of old "Baala Kashmiri" to put some lead in the pencil eh?!
Perhaps ".....Lahu garm karne ka hai ik bahaana".
you said "I'm in!!!". In what paaji? "w_____t P_______s"(?)
I hope you'd see the funny side...comeon man, give me a break!
#630 Posted by zeemax on March 21, 2008 12:06:09 am
#627 Posted by pavocavalry
w_____t P_______s , its wet pussies
Aaah! Interesting. What're the investment rules Sir? I'm in!!!
w_____t P_______s , its wet pussies
Aaah! Interesting. What're the investment rules Sir? I'm in!!!
#629 Posted by zeemax on March 21, 2008 12:02:48 am
... but the hind000s and the murtids stand at the shores and cheer their gora goo providers fighting battles with the 'Qalandars'!
#628 Posted by zeemax on March 21, 2008 12:00:16 am
#626 Posted by pavocavalry
as iqbal said,do not look from a distance, go jump into the sea and do battle with the waves,for immortality is won through striving.....that I may go in quest of the new spirit and become its acknowledged champion
Well said!
Kehta hay zamaanay se ye darwesh jawaaN mard
Jaata hay jidhar banda-e-haq, tu bhi udhar jaa
MaiN kashti-o-Malaah ka muhtaaj na hooNga
ChaRhta hua darya hay agar tu, tou utar jaa
touRa naheN Jaado meri takbeer ne tera?
Hay tujh maiN mukar jaanay ki Khwahish tou mukar jaa
Mehr-o Mah-o Anjum ka muhasib hay Qalandar
Ayyaam ka Murkib naheeN Rakib hay Qalander.
as iqbal said,do not look from a distance, go jump into the sea and do battle with the waves,for immortality is won through striving.....that I may go in quest of the new spirit and become its acknowledged champion
Well said!
Kehta hay zamaanay se ye darwesh jawaaN mard
Jaata hay jidhar banda-e-haq, tu bhi udhar jaa
MaiN kashti-o-Malaah ka muhtaaj na hooNga
ChaRhta hua darya hay agar tu, tou utar jaa
touRa naheN Jaado meri takbeer ne tera?
Hay tujh maiN mukar jaanay ki Khwahish tou mukar jaa
Mehr-o Mah-o Anjum ka muhasib hay Qalandar
Ayyaam ka Murkib naheeN Rakib hay Qalander.
#627 Posted by pavocavalry on March 20, 2008 11:32:10 pm
Re: # 488 --- we are for progress , it can be anyone , because I am dealing with this part of the world since 30 years , in my personal capacity , custom clearing , logistics and those heavenly uninhabited passages, the Afghan hashish from mazar is top of the line and scotch is far cheaper than pakistan. then there are other attractions.
u had asked whats w_____t P_______s , its wet pussies , a cat you know who got wet in the rain sir .
u had asked whats w_____t P_______s , its wet pussies , a cat you know who got wet in the rain sir .
#626 Posted by pavocavalry on March 20, 2008 11:17:58 pm
Roshan owned by Aga Khan started mobile tel ops in Afghanistan in 2002 and recovered their initial investment within 6 months .Now their subscribers exceed 1.5 Million I think.So did Afghan Telecom , Areeba (initial Lebanese now South African) and now Etisalat.China Telecom , ZTE are doing roaring business in telecom sector.
More than 10 private Afghan banks have emerged.One is a JV with ING Bank I think.
Fuel is one major business.All fuel is bought from Pakistan or Turkmenistan or smuggled from Iran (thats almost finished now with Ahmad Nijads bold policy of removing sub sidy).This is a billion dollar business.
Construction is another major business.Main donors are ADB,EU,JICA,WB , USAID,US Army , I am sub consultant of ADB in some surveys.
Indian government headed by Power Grid Corp India like Paki WAPDA is doing many projects.
National Highway Pakistan and NESPAK are also doing projects.Banking and insurance are booming.Anyone who sets a refinery will be the king.I am already working on this idea since 2000.My cousin in a leading European oil company tells me that Shibirgan-Mazar gas field is one of the biggest in the region.
The situation is as iqbal said,do not look from a distance, go jump into the sea and do battle with the waves,for immortality is won through striving.....that I may go in quest of the new spirit and become its acknowledged champion
More than 10 private Afghan banks have emerged.One is a JV with ING Bank I think.
Fuel is one major business.All fuel is bought from Pakistan or Turkmenistan or smuggled from Iran (thats almost finished now with Ahmad Nijads bold policy of removing sub sidy).This is a billion dollar business.
Construction is another major business.Main donors are ADB,EU,JICA,WB , USAID,US Army , I am sub consultant of ADB in some surveys.
Indian government headed by Power Grid Corp India like Paki WAPDA is doing many projects.
National Highway Pakistan and NESPAK are also doing projects.Banking and insurance are booming.Anyone who sets a refinery will be the king.I am already working on this idea since 2000.My cousin in a leading European oil company tells me that Shibirgan-Mazar gas field is one of the biggest in the region.
The situation is as iqbal said,do not look from a distance, go jump into the sea and do battle with the waves,for immortality is won through striving.....that I may go in quest of the new spirit and become its acknowledged champion
#625 Posted by pavocavalry on March 20, 2008 11:17:30 pm
Roshan owned by Aga Khan started mobile tel ops in Afghanistan in 2002 and recovered their initial investment within 6 months .Now their subscribers exceed 1.5 Million I think.So did Afghan Telecom , Areeba (initial Lebanese now South African) and now Etisalat.China Telecom , ZTE are doing roaring business in telecom sector.
More than 10 private Afghan banks have emerged.One is a JV with ING Bank I think.
Fuel is one major business.All fuel is bought from Pakistan or Turkmenistan or smuggled from Iran (thats almost finished now with Ahmad Nijads bold policy of removing sub sidy).This is a billion dollar business.
Construction is another major business.Main donors are ADB,EU,JICA,WB , USAID,US Army , I am sub consultant of ADB in some surveys.
Indian government headed by Power Grid Corp India like Paki WAPDA is doing many projects.
National Highway Pakistan and NESPAK are also doing projects.Banking and insurance are booming.Anyone who sets a refinery will be the king.I am already working on this idea since 2000.My cousin in a leading European oil company tells me that Shibirgan-Mazar gas field is one of the biggest in the region.
The situation is as iqbal said,do not look from a distance, go jump into the sea and do battle with the waves,for immortality is won through striving.....that I may go in quest of the new spirit and become its acknowledged champion
More than 10 private Afghan banks have emerged.One is a JV with ING Bank I think.
Fuel is one major business.All fuel is bought from Pakistan or Turkmenistan or smuggled from Iran (thats almost finished now with Ahmad Nijads bold policy of removing sub sidy).This is a billion dollar business.
Construction is another major business.Main donors are ADB,EU,JICA,WB , USAID,US Army , I am sub consultant of ADB in some surveys.
Indian government headed by Power Grid Corp India like Paki WAPDA is doing many projects.
National Highway Pakistan and NESPAK are also doing projects.Banking and insurance are booming.Anyone who sets a refinery will be the king.I am already working on this idea since 2000.My cousin in a leading European oil company tells me that Shibirgan-Mazar gas field is one of the biggest in the region.
The situation is as iqbal said,do not look from a distance, go jump into the sea and do battle with the waves,for immortality is won through striving.....that I may go in quest of the new spirit and become its acknowledged champion
#624 Posted by masadi on March 20, 2008 10:42:25 pm
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#622 Posted by Eklavya on March 20, 2008 5:45:25 pm
guru mian
9/11...drove 60 miles....did rituals...gita...sivananda...kalima...
There is crazy, and then there is Hindu crazy.
guru sahib, please stop harassing your friend by imposing your gobbledegook on them.
9/11...drove 60 miles....did rituals...gita...sivananda...kalima...
There is crazy, and then there is Hindu crazy.
guru sahib, please stop harassing your friend by imposing your gobbledegook on them.
#621 Posted by akcheema on March 20, 2008 4:46:40 pm
Re: # 578; tahmed:
Thanks. I have said this time and again, I have absolutely no problem with YOUR Islam; I wish there were others like you in the muslim world, even 1% of the total and we'd be on a winner!
I reckon sometimes it is best to be truthful about the'realities of life'. If I as a doctor tell someone that they don't have incurable cancer (when they actually do), I wouldn' be honest and that is the problem here. If someone wants to get through life deluding themselves at every difficulty life poses, that seems like a pitiful existence to me.
I agree completely about the poor in our part of the world; I am not from a particulary previleged background myself. Someone HAS to bite the bullet and make people realise when they have been taken for a ride. As Faiz would say:
"Koee unko ehsaas-e-zillat diade;
Koee unki soee hui dum hilaade".
Berating and challenging any ideology is part of that process and will continue in todays era of information technology; the old-fashioned censorship is passe; if they ban youtube, there are many other ways but one needs to KNOW when and how to look for it! That mentality is a product of skepticism and doubt and NOT blind faith.
Thanks. I have said this time and again, I have absolutely no problem with YOUR Islam; I wish there were others like you in the muslim world, even 1% of the total and we'd be on a winner!
I reckon sometimes it is best to be truthful about the'realities of life'. If I as a doctor tell someone that they don't have incurable cancer (when they actually do), I wouldn' be honest and that is the problem here. If someone wants to get through life deluding themselves at every difficulty life poses, that seems like a pitiful existence to me.
I agree completely about the poor in our part of the world; I am not from a particulary previleged background myself. Someone HAS to bite the bullet and make people realise when they have been taken for a ride. As Faiz would say:
"Koee unko ehsaas-e-zillat diade;
Koee unki soee hui dum hilaade".
Berating and challenging any ideology is part of that process and will continue in todays era of information technology; the old-fashioned censorship is passe; if they ban youtube, there are many other ways but one needs to KNOW when and how to look for it! That mentality is a product of skepticism and doubt and NOT blind faith.
#620 Posted by anil on March 20, 2008 3:03:08 pm
Re: # 612
Massaddi Mian:
"....Enterpreneurial energy in the non primary product ... sector never fluorishes by integrating into the global capitalist system with established players unless protection- the very antithesis of capitalism- is applied...."
Entrepreneurial Energy:
Massaddi Mian's ignorance is bigger than his ego which allows him to use high sounding words hoping he can fool people.
He has confused and jumbled "reality", "nationalized / state ownership" etc. etc. in the past. He is doing that even right now with Mazumdar, but I will leave that for now.
I would only demonstrate what entrepreneurial energy is, talk about the relevance of primary and non-primary products to entrepreneurial energy. I know even these are beyond his comprehension, but I want to explain these so that he cannot confuse others.
Entrepreneurial energy is as ingrained as ideas (revolutionary for time were in Mohammad) were to have come up with the book, system to propogate and strategy to grow the followers. He implemented the strategy through example and then left this world for his successors to have something more than just ideas or a book. Massaddi Mian it loves to the extent of being Islamic red-neck, and hence is stated above.
The drivers for entrepreneurs are: ability to see opportunity before the others, create differentiation with the giants, beat the giants, and stay ahead of the giant. Entrepreneur ceases to be an entrepreneur when he / she starts loosing out on these drivers.
Microsoft became Microsoft and Bill Gates became the richest man from entreprenuership. This had nothing to do with primary or non-primary products.
He saw a secular trend ahead of others. Out of his gut decided to no to into manufacturing of computers, but through negotiated agreement for non-exclusive licensing of DOS, he created what other group of more successful entrepreneurs, Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak could not achieve - created a personal computer industry.
Giant IBM made two contemporaneou mistakes - one got software done outside with microsoft - although they had no option. This gave birth to Microsoft. Other mistake by giant IBM was in workstation, despite being the owner of the best desktop engineering workstations, they did not introduce to the market - purest of the pure capitalism. SUN Microsystems engineers, students at Stanford saw a need, while IBM fought internal battles. SUN stands for Stanford University Network. SUN had perfect software solution, and a proprietory hardware platform for network computing. They stubbornly remained stuck to the bundled solution, else Intenet scene would have produced a new software giant like Google, much before Google. Scot McNealy forgot where entrepreneurial engery was coming from in SUN, and chose, quite quixotically WINTEL, only to fall back on INTEL.
Seeing ahead of others, being fast on feet, obsolescing your own products and services before others do, and taking all of this to market ahead of others - giants included who have inherent latency to respond, is where entrepreneurial energy is spent.
If this law of nature was not true dinosaurs would not have died, Mohammad's message would not be in over 1 billion minds.
Islamic red-neck along with other red-necks will be ruling the world.
Luckily for all, Islamic red-necks like Massaddi Mian realize it after it is too late. That the book they have been reading and preaching is old, was discarded long ago, the rules have changed. They do become dinasours and red-necks.
Those who have money and power to stay big, get into frenzy of conquering through buying, it is called consolidation, and continue the march.
Entrepreneurship is way beyond Islamic Red-neck, Massaddi Mian and his running dogs.
Primary and Non-Primary Products:
This terminology of primary and non-primary product comes from commodity-technology model of looking at the market and businesses and economic value addition.
Primary product is something that is created from the main pocess of manufacturing or service for the market.
For example, oil is primary to oil refineries. Investment is made and realized to build business out of primary product.
Since technology is powerful and had multi-use, therefore can be used to generate other products (non-primary products). In case of refinery - plastics, chemicals inputs to other industry.
Non-primary products are generated without significant investment in technology. This allows companies to create business lines of non-primary products to taken to market on incremental cost and therefore, huge profits.
Anyone trying to set up an industry/business purely for non-primary products will have impossible job to make money, as it must recover entire capital and fixed costs on the non-primary products alone.
Massaddi Mian:
Where is the basis to claim a connection between entrepreneurship and non-primary products?
Simply weird, I only hope Massaddi Mians are not teaching the best and the brightest of Pakistan.
Hamid Sahib:
Please send your or your friends kids to such classes.
Massaddi Mian:
"....Enterpreneurial energy in the non primary product ... sector never fluorishes by integrating into the global capitalist system with established players unless protection- the very antithesis of capitalism- is applied...."
Entrepreneurial Energy:
Massaddi Mian's ignorance is bigger than his ego which allows him to use high sounding words hoping he can fool people.
He has confused and jumbled "reality", "nationalized / state ownership" etc. etc. in the past. He is doing that even right now with Mazumdar, but I will leave that for now.
I would only demonstrate what entrepreneurial energy is, talk about the relevance of primary and non-primary products to entrepreneurial energy. I know even these are beyond his comprehension, but I want to explain these so that he cannot confuse others.
Entrepreneurial energy is as ingrained as ideas (revolutionary for time were in Mohammad) were to have come up with the book, system to propogate and strategy to grow the followers. He implemented the strategy through example and then left this world for his successors to have something more than just ideas or a book. Massaddi Mian it loves to the extent of being Islamic red-neck, and hence is stated above.
The drivers for entrepreneurs are: ability to see opportunity before the others, create differentiation with the giants, beat the giants, and stay ahead of the giant. Entrepreneur ceases to be an entrepreneur when he / she starts loosing out on these drivers.
Microsoft became Microsoft and Bill Gates became the richest man from entreprenuership. This had nothing to do with primary or non-primary products.
He saw a secular trend ahead of others. Out of his gut decided to no to into manufacturing of computers, but through negotiated agreement for non-exclusive licensing of DOS, he created what other group of more successful entrepreneurs, Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak could not achieve - created a personal computer industry.
Giant IBM made two contemporaneou mistakes - one got software done outside with microsoft - although they had no option. This gave birth to Microsoft. Other mistake by giant IBM was in workstation, despite being the owner of the best desktop engineering workstations, they did not introduce to the market - purest of the pure capitalism. SUN Microsystems engineers, students at Stanford saw a need, while IBM fought internal battles. SUN stands for Stanford University Network. SUN had perfect software solution, and a proprietory hardware platform for network computing. They stubbornly remained stuck to the bundled solution, else Intenet scene would have produced a new software giant like Google, much before Google. Scot McNealy forgot where entrepreneurial engery was coming from in SUN, and chose, quite quixotically WINTEL, only to fall back on INTEL.
Seeing ahead of others, being fast on feet, obsolescing your own products and services before others do, and taking all of this to market ahead of others - giants included who have inherent latency to respond, is where entrepreneurial energy is spent.
If this law of nature was not true dinosaurs would not have died, Mohammad's message would not be in over 1 billion minds.
Islamic red-neck along with other red-necks will be ruling the world.
Luckily for all, Islamic red-necks like Massaddi Mian realize it after it is too late. That the book they have been reading and preaching is old, was discarded long ago, the rules have changed. They do become dinasours and red-necks.
Those who have money and power to stay big, get into frenzy of conquering through buying, it is called consolidation, and continue the march.
Entrepreneurship is way beyond Islamic Red-neck, Massaddi Mian and his running dogs.
Primary and Non-Primary Products:
This terminology of primary and non-primary product comes from commodity-technology model of looking at the market and businesses and economic value addition.
Primary product is something that is created from the main pocess of manufacturing or service for the market.
For example, oil is primary to oil refineries. Investment is made and realized to build business out of primary product.
Since technology is powerful and had multi-use, therefore can be used to generate other products (non-primary products). In case of refinery - plastics, chemicals inputs to other industry.
Non-primary products are generated without significant investment in technology. This allows companies to create business lines of non-primary products to taken to market on incremental cost and therefore, huge profits.
Anyone trying to set up an industry/business purely for non-primary products will have impossible job to make money, as it must recover entire capital and fixed costs on the non-primary products alone.
Massaddi Mian:
Where is the basis to claim a connection between entrepreneurship and non-primary products?
Simply weird, I only hope Massaddi Mians are not teaching the best and the brightest of Pakistan.
Hamid Sahib:
Please send your or your friends kids to such classes.
#619 Posted by arjun_5 on March 20, 2008 1:56:22 pm
#616 Posted by masadi on March 20, 2008 11:53:55 am
going by your ridiculous standards, everything can be credited to the first african who walked out of africa and evolved into the chinese...
going by your ridiculous standards, everything can be credited to the first african who walked out of africa and evolved into the chinese...
#618 Posted by arjun_5 on March 20, 2008 12:56:22 pm
US drones hovering over North Waziristan
Our Staff Reporter
BANNU - Bomb disposal squad Wednesday diffused here a bomb that was planted under a bridge on Bannu-Miran Shah Road.
The passers-by witnessed a suspicious box lying under Bannu-Miran Shah linking bridge in Mamash Khel area and informed the police. The police called bomb disposal squad, which searched the box and found locally made bomb that was diffused. The route upon which the bomb was planted is being used for the transportation of security forces to Miran Shah.
Online adds: The US spy planes were seen hovering over the headquarters of North Waziristan, Miranshah and its adjoining areas. According to a private TV channel, the flights of US drones over the Miranshah, Mir Ali and Ghulam Khan created concern among the tribal people, however, the drone did not carry out any action.
US drones fired three missiles three days ago resulting in the death of 20 persons while five sustained injuries.
Meanwhile, girls schools have been closed for indefinite period of time after receiving threatening letters from extremists in Darra Adam Khel. Noor Ali Kalay girls model school including some other schools received threatening letters, which caused the closure of these schools. Residents have refused sending their children to schools.
People are still under the fear after the blast occurred in Peero Waal Girls School some days back.
Our Staff Reporter
BANNU - Bomb disposal squad Wednesday diffused here a bomb that was planted under a bridge on Bannu-Miran Shah Road.
The passers-by witnessed a suspicious box lying under Bannu-Miran Shah linking bridge in Mamash Khel area and informed the police. The police called bomb disposal squad, which searched the box and found locally made bomb that was diffused. The route upon which the bomb was planted is being used for the transportation of security forces to Miran Shah.
Online adds: The US spy planes were seen hovering over the headquarters of North Waziristan, Miranshah and its adjoining areas. According to a private TV channel, the flights of US drones over the Miranshah, Mir Ali and Ghulam Khan created concern among the tribal people, however, the drone did not carry out any action.
US drones fired three missiles three days ago resulting in the death of 20 persons while five sustained injuries.
Meanwhile, girls schools have been closed for indefinite period of time after receiving threatening letters from extremists in Darra Adam Khel. Noor Ali Kalay girls model school including some other schools received threatening letters, which caused the closure of these schools. Residents have refused sending their children to schools.
People are still under the fear after the blast occurred in Peero Waal Girls School some days back.
#617 Posted by guru on March 20, 2008 11:58:39 am
Re: # 605
"
bubba, both you and urstruly are right. And most Muslims can understand that.
There are basic, fundamental, and ultimately unbridgeable differences between Muslims and non-Muslims (Hindus being the most extreme non-Muslim people).
"
Right about what?
What is Muslim? After 9/11 went early morning before work driving 60 miles to in cold to comfort scared 60ish Indian Muslims couple from Hydrabad for 7 days. Did whole ritual of morning prayer as they do. Recited verses from short 40 page book wit English translations. At the end he told I have recited Kalima or some such thing for 7 days. His wife insisted that I am a Muslim. I had to convey that I was Muslim even before I recited Kalima. She asked why dont you take Muslim name? I did not want to hurt her feeling. I brought their grocery, milk chicken because they were scared to go out. But for them I was a person not belonging to them. Why?
I had to convey them that consider me a Muslim who
--
believes and tries to act Patanjali Yoga Sutra,
does everyday 90 min of Bikram Yoga (because it cured my severe ulcer, piles, shoulder dislocations and many other ailments),
loves to read Geeta and interpretatiion by chinmayanada, shivananda.
By doing these practices I have no physical ailments anymore, eats only once in two days and need only 4 hrs of sleep. The ailments mentioned were from childhood.
Good health and financial success which I am enjoying itself is a paradise.
Now, am I not a good Muslim by being a good Hindu?
Why are you converting a converted?
--
Scoundrels wear their religions on their sleeves. Humanity does not need religion to tell to be human or Muslim. When we do not do our own Dharma ie personal calling very well (new enterprises, patentable ideas educational projects) we try to hide behind organized religion. If Osama had built a dam in Afghanistan using his money and civil eng background he would have created paradise for himself and others here on earth.
goodbye
"
bubba, both you and urstruly are right. And most Muslims can understand that.
There are basic, fundamental, and ultimately unbridgeable differences between Muslims and non-Muslims (Hindus being the most extreme non-Muslim people).
"
Right about what?
What is Muslim? After 9/11 went early morning before work driving 60 miles to in cold to comfort scared 60ish Indian Muslims couple from Hydrabad for 7 days. Did whole ritual of morning prayer as they do. Recited verses from short 40 page book wit English translations. At the end he told I have recited Kalima or some such thing for 7 days. His wife insisted that I am a Muslim. I had to convey that I was Muslim even before I recited Kalima. She asked why dont you take Muslim name? I did not want to hurt her feeling. I brought their grocery, milk chicken because they were scared to go out. But for them I was a person not belonging to them. Why?
I had to convey them that consider me a Muslim who
--
believes and tries to act Patanjali Yoga Sutra,
does everyday 90 min of Bikram Yoga (because it cured my severe ulcer, piles, shoulder dislocations and many other ailments),
loves to read Geeta and interpretatiion by chinmayanada, shivananda.
By doing these practices I have no physical ailments anymore, eats only once in two days and need only 4 hrs of sleep. The ailments mentioned were from childhood.
Good health and financial success which I am enjoying itself is a paradise.
Now, am I not a good Muslim by being a good Hindu?
Why are you converting a converted?
--
Scoundrels wear their religions on their sleeves. Humanity does not need religion to tell to be human or Muslim. When we do not do our own Dharma ie personal calling very well (new enterprises, patentable ideas educational projects) we try to hide behind organized religion. If Osama had built a dam in Afghanistan using his money and civil eng background he would have created paradise for himself and others here on earth.
goodbye
#616 Posted by masadi on March 20, 2008 11:53:55 am
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