New US Strategy Needed in Afghanistan and Pakistan

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Re 47 Masadi,

"war without end" is a good description of Islam of marauders who came from arabia and destroyed that particular region. For the good of humanity 17 million pakis should start the long march back to mecca.

There is not an iota of spirituality left in Islam as practiced with the help of the book. Islam perpetuate outward looking. Either to the 72 houries or perceived injustice by hindus or west. The most fanatic among them are the first one to sleep with the west for example Pakis, Saudis and gulf emerites. On this board darbari gandu monto is doing secular tamasha because he looks good to DC darbar.

Masadi, visited your site. Big effort! But seems repetitive. Summerize and come up with 3 point action plan. The first should be Peace. You should start with yourself. If you do not have a wife, get one to start a life. Love the female and have babies. Love them. You will grow better with the family than in the company of alien dead prophets and western philosophers. Wordy, shrude family-less lawyer caused so much havoc to the world in the last century. Millions killed & raped and tens of millions uprooted. That draculla also had good English writing and speaking skills like Monto and you. Hope you do not turn into such a cruel dracula.

Re: # 46: ZEEMAX

Zee as I have explained before, I did what I did to keep my family happy, especially my father who had that kind of role planned for me perhaps even before I was born. At 15, in Pakiland, one can use euphemisms but very difficult to say how you feel openly; I am sure you'd agree on that at least.

As for not taking pride in being a 'murtid', I am very proud of it sir; I just said I didn't like THAT word. I'd much prefer a muslim apostate but feel free to call me what you want. Hamidm seems like a decent fellow and I don't think he has anything to be ashamed of, and I am certain he isn't.

Perhaps the same way as your name can't possibly be Zeemax in real life; isn't it a car or something! So are you living a "duplicate/schizophrenic" life as well? Or have parents in the Islamic Republic gone completely loopy.....

Now, Khuda Hafiz and sleep well...

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Masadi,

A corollary of what you say in #53 of course would be that neither Pakistan nor A'stan are of great strategic importance to USA and should things get hot, USA wud not think much before decamping.

Which shud be good news for Pakistan. It may get a breathing space from American interference in its domestic politics.

Regards

#50 Posted by treetop on March 17, 2008 2:17:15 am

Yar, u pl change ur name/ID else we r constrained think u r a monkey. :(

As for the research, yes, the length of Indian coks is 'average' and u need to ask al-Lah why he did that (since he's the creator of all human beings).

If u ask me yes, it depends on the depth of the women folk who complement men in sex. If women are not complaining, u need not. OK?

If u want to have a laugh on the size of Indian dicks then see this video by Russell Peters who has his own take on the 'size' of Indian men.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KX4NGyT6bok

I think the only strategy that US needs at this time is to figure out whether they want to leave Afghanistan with their patloons or without them. If they cannot control a tiny landlocked country with an air tight border, with the help of armies from 37 countries, and a complacent United Nations that looks the other way at this genocide, in 7 years, then it is most likely that they will not be able to control it in next 7 years either.

One positive thing that has come out of this genocide is that in Pakistan, it military, dictatorship, and the corrupt pro-western ruling elite has been exposed and discredited for good. So they have to make a choice too - wanna leave with patloons on or without them.

I think the only strategy that US needs at this time is to figure out whether they want to leave Afghanistan with their patloons or without them. If they cannot control a tiny landlocked country with an air tight border, with the help of armies from 37 countries, and a complacent United Nations that looks the other way at this genocide, in 7 years, then it is most likely that they will not be able to control it in next 7 years either.

One positive thing that has come out of this genocide is that in Pakistan, it military, dictatorship, and the corrupt pro-western ruling elite has been exposed and discredited for good. So they have to make a choice too - wanna leave with patloons on or without them.

Urstruly,

A'stan isn't a small country by any means and its borders are very porous particularly with Iran and Pakistan.

Regards

"the interference from everywhere has been responsible..."

cheema ji

Left to themselves, Palestinians would be simply hammered by the Israelis. A small number of people - ideologically driven - would never give up, but their chances of success would diminish drastically.

Besides, local people have a great tendency to settle for unjust peace - merely to lead 'normal' lives with their 'friends' and 'acquaintances.'

To establish just orders, in practical terms, you absolutely need participation from 'outsiders' who are free from those limitations (or you need a dictator who imposes justice on people).

Relatively, the fewer or less-valued the local ties, and stronger the external participation, the easier and sooner justice can be brought to local people.

So please don't knock this 'external' interference, unless you are willing to lead unjust lives.

what to do with the afghans ?

.... pavo wants the americans to stay and teach them how to make textiles while listening to mozart...... here is a nation that in its entire history hasn't produced anything other than raw opium (they cannot even make heroin which has to be processed on the other side of the border) and we want them to actually make something! ........ this is just too funny ! .......... it might be easier to train an indian to eat with utensils .......

masadi #34: i read this post, and was shocked to see you got this one right.

The post-in-a-million that masadi got right:

pavo writes "About strategy I expect to interact with some one who has burnt his midnight oil and knows what he is talking about"

Pavo man you need to learn how to argue, what you wrote above is a cheap excuse and a shallow escape, present reasons not your "authority",

pavocavalry #32 "If the USA could have set up a textile free zone..in Jalalabad,Torkham"

Textile free zone!! Are you calling for setting up a nudist colony in Jalalabad?

HP #14 I think as long as US/NATO performs the job that a national army performs (keep law and order) in Afghanistan, without getting into a "mission creep" of nation-building, nature will takes its course. Investors will come, and the Afghans themselves are a hardy, enterprising lot. With dictatorship out in Pakistan, Afghanistan's biggest security issue will solve itself in due course.

The Pushtuns in general, and the Afghans in particular, are one of the most industrious, mobile, and hardworking people in the world. They're particularly adept at commerce & trade of merchandise and money businesses including informal lending and foreign exchange. Their abilities in these areas are well known since the 'Pavindah' traveling salesmen/women merchandising wares all over the Subcontinent, to the present day Bara markets, the long-haul trucking all over Pakistan, the Qissa Khwani retail FX/money-market in Peshawar where dollars are traded in paan-stall sized outlets in bundles and Afghani currency in sacks, to the parallel worldwide remittance business turning over billions of dollars each day - faster than banks and delivered at payee's address like Fedex in 24 hours - with not a single known default, when even banks fail all the time. In manufacturing, one can buy the complete range from a perfect copy of Smith & Wesson hand-tooled side arm, to a light anti-aircraft machine-gun in Darra Adam Khel - all manufactured locally in garage sized workshops. They are known to be honest and fair in their dealings and their word is their bond.

Pavo is entirely just in lamenting why they are considered only worthy of bombs but not good enough to be given a few trade zones of a few hundred million dollars. Worst scenario would be they would run it into the ground. So?

Now the chutyas can please continue about how they're only good for blowing themselves up.