Pakistan: The War of Drones

Here's a tale of two Pakistani self-haters and defeatists who enjoy every moment of hating themselves and their country: Dr. Pervaiz Hoodbhoy and Asma Jahangir.
Whenever there is a writing project in any newspaper anywhere in the world where they want to bash Pakistan using a Pakistani name, they call one man in Islamabad: Dr. Hoodbhoy. He spews more venom against Pakistan than Hamid Karzai and Bal Thackery - an Indian Hindu terrorist - combined.
Asma Jahangir, another defeatist who went to India to shake the hands of Narendar Modi, the killer of 2500 Indian Muslims, has just volunteered to Hindustan Times to confirm that Mumbai terror was a Pakistani conspiracy [see below].
Here's a letter sent by a Pakistani young man to Dr. Pervaiz Hoodbhoy, a Pakistani self-hater, and received no reply. And then watch Asma Jahangir's video.
Recommendation: We need to start a witch-hunt in Pakistan to cleanse our academia and public life of such self-haters and defeatists who poison the minds of young Pakistanis about their homeland. Such academics and human rights activists should not be allowed to hide behind the freedom of expression.
TO: Dr. Pervaiz A. Hoodbhoy
Professor and Chairman
Physic Department
Quaid-e-Azam University,
Islamabad.
E-mail: hoodb...@lns.mit.edu

NATION WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU

Dear Dr Pervaiz Hoodbhoy Sahib,

I have been reading your articles and research reports and watching your interviews on different TV channels on different issues. I have tried to go through your articles again and again to satisfy myself that whatsoever you are speaking in the name of freedom of speech is just an ordinary criticism and could be a difference of opinion.
But I regret to say that I am unable to do so. In dozens of your articles and interviews you have never ever said a single positive thing about Pakistan and have always tried to portray a false picture of Pakistan, according to which Pakistan is a failed state. Whether it's the issue of extremism, or Pakistan's nuclear assets, or Pak-India relations, or if there is an issue of western and Indian allegations, you have always come up with your nasty ideas to prove to the world community that whatever the enemies of Pakistan are saying, you are more than happy to say it from them, using a Pakistani identity, which is an act for which you feel no shame.

I am not sure if Pakistanis have seen your massive one-man campaign against Pakistan where you have alleged that we are not capable of retaining our nuclear assets. Or, now, after the Mumbai attacks, when even the cheapest of Pakistani politicians have shown some kind of patriotism and unity for the sake of Pakistan, at this crucial time again you are trying to prove what the enemies of Pakistan are trying to do. I fail to understand what motivates you except gaining popularity in West or even in India.

India is a so-called democracy where low caste Hindus, Christians and Muslims are burned alive [a ritual unique to India, doesn't happen anywhere else], where Hindu extremists are in the government, where groups like Bajrang Dal are trained in Indian Army schools. But India seems like Switzerland after reading one of your articles on India, especially the one you wrote recently after a visit to India. India's terrorist and rogue intelligence agency, RAW, which is funding and supporting separatist movements in our tribal belt and in Balochistan, continues to be an untouchable issue for you. What really is important for you is to put all your efforts toward portraying a negative Pakistan.

I give you an example from the history which you will find self explanatory in reference to our current scenario.

I am not sure if our enemies will impose a war on Pakistan or not but at this crucial stage all your efforts to distort Pakistan's image is not going to remain unnoticed and the nation will never forgive you for what you have done.

Wassalam.

Waqas Ahmed
Muscat, Sultanate of Oman

Whenever so called scholars/academics/experts (Raised/Funded by US/West) discuss any evil/wrong in our Muslim societies on Media especially TV, they never try to exactly locate the center of gravity of that issue. Their reasoning, and intended solutions are shallow and mostly in mars/space because they always try to avoid the context and history of the issue.
What is unfolding now in whole Muslim World and especially Pakistan, is somewhat ‘creative chaos’ in almost all walk of life. If you have monopoly over world resources (Oil, Drugs, Technology, Banks, Media etc) , superiority in intelligence and multiple means of buying out loyalties of the readily saleable commodities (Karzai, Yasir Arrafat, Mahmood Abbas, Musharaf, Saudis, Benaizer, Nawaz, Zardari, Local Journalist, Generals, Bureaucrats, Businessmen etc.) like the US/West does, then the fog of chaos is a good way of confusing the enemy and continuing exploitation/deprivation by de-facto colonization even after so called freedom. One of the main reason for Muslim failure during last several decades in almost all fields is the result of well planned disorientation campaign. Multiple channels are used varying from brute force of carpet bombing/armed invasions to dubious soft tool like human rights, media, trade, MNCs, NGOs, globalization, academic dialogue and last of War on terror. However the only objective is to curtail Islam, whip Muslims and thrash them depending upon the situation and environment.
We will take a common day example of the curse of Heroin. As it is normally believed that Herion like Terrorism popped out of blue from Pakistan Tribal Areas/Afghanistan. It is generally believed that simple tribal men and war lords are only responsible for menace of Heroin but never told the link between Afghan War, CIA, Heroin, BCCI and finance for US Stringers made by private MNCs.
Heroin is prepared from morphine (extracted from opium) by boiling it with acetic anhydride, and then using a process that involves hydrochloric acid, strychnine, and caffeine. The most essential chemical for Heroin (i.e. acetic anhydride) is produced only in West, No Muslim country has any plant for producing acetic anhydride. Recently its import to Afghanistan through Karachi Afghan transit route under flag of NATO/US since 9/11 has increased exponentially. MNCs producing all such chemicals are making billions.
Heroin was basically invented by BAYER Pharmaceutical/Agro MNCs. It is also operating in many countries like Pakistan and making Billions. CIA introduced Heroin in South America, Vietnam and Last of all Afghanistan/Pakistan. Hereon and present drug economy is very similar to Colonial era Opium trade of that era.

Similarly all the business families (Mostly present ruling establishment in Indo/Pak/Bangla Desh) are those who acted as middle men for opium export to China. Most of them control II Chundrigar Road, Karachi/Bombay Stock exchange and Power Houses in IndoPak. Those past collaborators/supporters of past colonials and present day ruling elites will always pray anthems of US/West. Any voice or force raising against US/West is curbed with Iron hand, it may be Lawyers Movement or Red Mosques or Tribal Areas or Rag Tag Taliban. Please see the interview of Indian Writer Amitav Gosh on BBC (23 June, 2008) about opium wars of 1830s and 1850s and opium production in Bengal/Bombay by East India Company.


This is not about blaming the US/West for our all problems. Muslims needs to set its own house in order but there is no question that the Heroin in Afghanistan, NWFP and Tribal area were almost nonexistent before CIA operation against Soviet Invasion. Similar terrorism, intolerance, lawlessness in Tribal Area is the direct product of the machinations of the local/international establishment powers that were based in Tribal region even before Afghan-Soviet War in 1970s.
For we Muslims and Pakistani in particular, this is not a time for optimism. It’s better to be cautious now – even paranoid – than sorry later. The events in our society in general and tribal region in particular did not emerge from a void but are a continuation of a dirty game played since colonization and continues unabated, involving critical inside players and their outside allies.

To draw a line in the sand, we should openly declare US/CIA directly responsible for creating/nourishing/sponsoring chaos, terror, lawlessness, drug economy in our regions.

Regards

FM Shah

Interview of Indian Writer Amitav Gosh on BBC (23 June, 2008)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7460682.stm

#853 Posted by zeemax
“The Qayuum PML was totally discredited and NWFP sub-nationalists never forgave him for his ordering the Bhabra massacre of Khudai Khidmatgars.�

You are so wrong!
You don’t know what you are talking about. Khan Qayoom was Bhutto’s Interior Minister till the Zia Coup. He died a little bit later. The PPP replaced ML in the urban areas of NWFP and with Hindku population in Peshawar.

Sherpao had no role whatsoever in this. When Bhutto was alive it was all Bhutto’s doing and Sherpao was already dead before the July, 77 coup.

“Hayat Muhammad Sherpao was an extremely charismatic person - perhaps just as ZAB himself. He was certain to be Prime Minister of Pakistan one day had he lived. ZAB groomed him as his own son, and I believe Khar was wary of ZAB's admiration for him. Everyone knows how ZAB grieved upon Sherpao's assassination.’

Where did you hear this fable or you are making up stories on the fly! He was PPP President in NWFP just because he joined the party before anyone else did. Bhutto never groomed anyone. Not even Khar who was his closest friend. That was not in that man’s nature. I don’t know where you hear these stories. Bhutto was a different kind of beast in personal relations!

“One old member (whose grandson I knew well) couldn't run fast enough so he hobbled inside and threw his turban onto a chair and declared 'Da zama sho' (This is mine).�

Yeah right! Any more jokes?

Btw, stories from wiki are not always reliable!

Re: # 854
Gandhi may have inspired jihadis, but his method was quite different. Several times, Gandhi emphasized that, wrong means for right cause can create bad situation. Khilafat movement might not be relevant for India, but might have made middle east more powerful than what is today. A united middle east would have created a powerful state like China. The sentiment against european colonialism was very high (for valid reason). Whatever he had done, he might have expected some sort of support from the middle east for freedom struggle of India.
Coming to the Deoband, it was not involved in armed struggle against British.

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YLH, here is a quote, worth repeating like that of patwardhan. This from dawn, more credible than an indian, and like patwardhan his views are also published.

At last here is proof, that at last the gandhi inspired jihadis are creating havoc in pakistan.

From dawn of today. Please note the authors name in diary, Jamal Jamail from Krachi, he is well known military analyst, more famous than patwardhan.

Taliban destabilising Pakistan


THIS is with reference to the spate of bombings that have rocked the country and seems to continue unabated during 2008.

The perpetrators of such inhuman acts are none other than the Taliban and Al Qaeda who are following their so-called agenda of jihad against anti-Islam forces and hell bent on destabilising Pakistan.

However, if we closely look at their activities, one would realise that their effective role is that of Indian and Israeli agents, because they are attacking Pakistani defence installations and killing Pakistani soldiers and law-enforcement agencies’ personnel – something that Indians love to do. They are stabbing in the back the Muslim world’s only nuclear power.

The day Lt-Gen Mushtaq Ahmed Baig was martyred – the highest ranking officer to fall — generals in the Indian army officers’ messes must have clicked their heels and clinked champagne glasses. Their hearts must have been gladdened by such brutal acts which, if planned by the Indian agents, must have taken decades to execute. I really wonder how can the perpetrators of such heinous acts call themselves Muslims and act in the name of Islam.

#852 Posted by HP,

NAP was never unchallenged in NWFP. In fact, it struggled against ML of Qayoom Khan. Bhutto had support in Peshawar very early on and after 1971, he built the party on former ML(Qayoom) workers.

I don't dispute that for 70s election, but after 1971 as you admit, it was none other than Hayat Sherpao who built PPP for ZAB from ex-Qayoom workers. The Qayuum PML was totally discredited and NWFP sub-nationalists never forgave him for his ordering the Bhabra massacre of Khudai Khidmatgars. Sherpao brought the Charsadda/Mardan/Peshawar people away from Wali Khan's inflammatory rhetoric and exploiting their sentiments, and towards Federal politics of ZAB.

In September 1948, Chief Minister Khan Abdul Qayyum Khan gave a statement in the provincial assembly, "I had imposed section 144 at Babra. When the people did not disperse, then firing was opened on them. They were lucky that the police had finished ammunition; otherwise not a single soul would have been left alive". Khan Qayyum said hinting at the four members of the opposition in the provincial assembly. He said; "If they were killed, the government would not care about them." (Wiki)

Another interesting anecdote. In the last provincial assembly of Qayuum Khan where his members were wrangling for cabinet posts, he took all members to the assembly hall with ministery labels on the chairs, and told them to run. Whoever got to which ever chair, it would be his. One old member (whose grandson I knew well) couldn't run fast enough so he hobbled inside and threw his turban onto a chair and declared 'Da zama sho' (This is mine). That portfolio was duly granted to him.

Hayat Muhammad Sherpao was an extremely charismatic person - perhaps just as ZAB himself. He was certain to be Prime Minister of Pakistan one day had he lived. ZAB groomed him as his own son, and I believe Khar was wary of ZAB's admiration for him. Everyone knows how ZAB grieved upon Sherpao's assassination.

#847 Posted by MantoLives
“Pavo says he met the guy who was responsible for the assassination of Hayat Sherpao and he was an NAP activist.�

At this point all I can say is that it is Pavo’s civic duty to report that person to the authorities! Why is he shrinking from it?

“Incidentally, what do you think of Hayat Sherpao?�

Not much really! He started out with ZAB when ZAB only had Khar in 1967. But As far as I know, he was never as close to ZAB as Khar was!
ZAB illegally made him the CM of NWFP in 1972. He never had the majority in the NWFP assembly.

841 Posted by zeemax
“You must be kidding. Hayat Sherpao had single-handedly built up PPP as a formidable force in NWFP against the hitherto unchallenged NAP�

PPP was built by Bhutto alone. Nobody knew clowns like Sherpao without Bhutto.

NAP was never unchallenged in NWFP. In fact, it struggled against ML of Qayoom Khan. Bhutto had support in Peshawar very early on and after 1971, he built the party on former ML(Qayoom) workers. In the 70s elections, the results were pretty much what they are now in PA. ANP did not win absolute majority neither did NAP in 1970.

I have not gone thru district by district results but if you do, you will see the similarities in results.

I second Ferozk's comment.

#849 Posted by bulleya on March 17, 2008 11:29:54 am

even mushy came out and said no foreign power would be permitted to bomb pakiland...that was about a few hundred hellfires ago...look how well that turned out...

nawaz sharif seems to be, openly, coming out against usa's interference in pakistan.......good job!

#846 feroz, thank you.


#843 ana, no problem.


g'night, later...

HP,

Pavo says he met the guy who was responsible for the assassination of Hayat Sherpao and he was an NAP activist.

Incidentally, what do you think of Hayat Sherpao?

re: Masadi

Please do not be overly concerned with redflagging of your posts. Those of us, myself included, who read you, will read your posts regardless of the color of the flag attached to it. :)

Even though we disagree, I think you provide an alternative viewpoint that is missing from the mainstream viewpoint and your comments are welcome in generating a discourse on Chowk.

As to ilogs, my ilogs also do not show up on FP and I think there is a glitch and maybe the Chowk care-takers can look into it and resolve it.

Ciao

Nkg,

Re: 837. I said they were not interested in harassing Pakistan or USA, never anything about not harassing India. And incidentally after their foray into Kashmir in 1947-48 stayed away from international affairs. Till Pakistan and USA dragged them into it.

Regards

Re: # 837
Mr Majumdar, are these tribals same people, who have attacked Kashmir at the behest of Pakistan? Then your conclusion is wrong.