Pakistan: The War of Drones

Some have naively suggested a quid-pro-quo between war on terror and the terror unleashed on civilzation in Pakistani cities.

Those once serene mountains have become the hideouts of the 'angels' of death. Their primitiv mountaneous mind with a simplistic worldview is totally overwhelmed by the complexities of the modern world. These apocalypse-mavericks confuse the centuries old lifestyle as Shariah (the Way) not knowing or accepting the endtime mindset according to their own books which say that Quran and religious knowledge'd be lifted. This clearly shows that the journey of human mind is toward secular ideas. Not religious obsesion but boundless ideas and human intellect will hold sway in the battle of ideas.

These 'angels' of death with their death cult are no new phenomenon. Islam saw Assassins long ago. They kept playing havoc by spreading death unless exterminated by the Mongol force. The death-worshippers should get death -- what they crave for; and those who stand for life and its dignity should get it. Maybe Pakistan should build a great wall like Zulqernain to ensure the safety of its territory and people from the death-worshippers on the Afghan side.

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#742 bulleya: This is not "another people's war" anymore. This has been Pakistan's war ever since al qaeda slipped into Pakistan and tried to carve out that piece of Pakistan for itself. Those sitting in Islamabad, Lahore, Karachi did not understand this because fata was the other side of the moon for them. The fata people understood this - and that is why ANP and tribals are the one's pushing to get al qaeda out. And now..al qaeda is attacking Pakistani cities, and people are confused. Pakistanis can cede the people of fata and fata territory to the terrorist, and thus "sell land to buy peace". And then find what a coward always finds in the end - a bully will keep pushing you for more if he thinks he can get away with it.

So, people like yourself and SR need to wake up and smell the coffee - even though it is a few years later than you should have woken up to it.

...i have been around the world a couple of times now......i have yet to find any country whose citizens are so gung-ho in fighting other peoples' wars......afghanistan, gwot, taliban, etc.......the only war, traditionally that pakistanis have (as their own) is with our friendly neighbors to the east......which, ironically, is the quietest area now.....

where did the rest of the wars come from........why are explosions taking place in pakistan, if americans are fighting arabs......strange.......

a % of pakistanis are hell-bent on fighting arab wars......another % are hell-bent on fighting afghanis' wars.......another % are hell-bent on fighting american wars.......and another % on fighting global wars and gwots.....

doesn't matter which side wins, pakistanis lose and die......

here is an idea......get out of every war.....simple.....withdraw......anyone who says this will not reduce violence is either an idiot (or an expat - who tend to have equally idiotic views when it comes to pakistan/usa relations).....

how in the world can withdrawing from wars not reduce violence......obviously it will reduce it......it may not reduce it 100%, but there is bound to be some % decrease.......

1. withdraw from tribal areas
2. withdraw from lal masjids
3. withdraw from palestines
4. withdraw from afghanistans
5. withdraw from gwots
6. withdraw from iraqs........

and if you don't want to withdraw, then, first, go participate in those wars yourselves........then encourage others to do so......

Monto,

Gandhi was actually mohammadda gandhi, many indians could not pronounce sacred highly evolved language, Arabic, so they started calling him Mahatma. Mahatma in Arabic means fascist bigot. Thanks for teaching us Arabic.

Since you are secular, why don't you declare yourself non-religious and non-arabic. Start with your name. Why dont you dearabize it? May be Ravi for first and Lahorkar for last is ideal. Or do you want to use Hindu numerals instead? Numerals might make your rootless.

Secularism is supposedly for not having influence of groups
on the functioning of state. But the people who are fanatic about it have imbibed alien location specific culture, be that Rome, Mecca or Moscow.

Zeemaz,
If ANP and Bilours are indeed KANJARS, then what are the people who voted for them. They must be the same too?
I am curious because you have an incisive insight into NWFP Affairs.

I see the mad red-flagging cow from UP is at it again. Some dog should cure her hoof and mouth and all orifices heat!

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HP
Keep on dreaming,i envision a union of Pakistan Afghanistan and central asian states.I have the right to dream too.

#729 Posted by MantoLives,

Manto, the NAP student wing named Pakhtoon Students Federation killed Hayat Mohammed Khan Sherpao through a bomb planted under the podium when he arrived to address Peshawar University students in I think 1972 or 1973.

SR
Your flair for analysis and criticism is impressive.Please keep in check your creative flow,it needs a lot to be desired.

#725 Posted by SR
"Absolute autonomy to the smaller units is the minimum first step."

I know all that way better than you think. I have been involved but that struggle is going on for the last 40 years. Is there any thing special that you know and the folks in Baluchistan and Sindh don't?

How do you propose it should be done outside of the constitution or within the current constitution? I mean talk is easy but ask the people that have been involved. It is not as simple as you make it out to be.

Every thing requires a process to complete and that takes time not some ideals.

Try and figure this out instead of just writing national rights manifesto!

#725 Posted by SR

SR, you are confused about things.
"I wrote that it can not be changed. It will have to be dismantled. It SHOULD be disemboweled."

And how do you propose to do that? That was my question that you ignored and continue with lofty ideals. The old days of Mao and red book are long gone. Face the reality and find ways to do things instead of just making statements.

Agha,


"HP should visit Afghanistan . "

I know what I know. I am probably better connected in kabul and know people that you probably don't. so don't worry about that part.

#719 Posted by pavocavalry
"all guerrilla warfare is based on " HIT AND RUN" , a person should visit afghanistan before stating that taliban control an area or not "

How do you know I have not visited Kabul or Afghanistan:)

You accept them as hit and run group, then claim that they control some area! Shadow governors don't mean a thing!

Talibs may control some deserted areas and thats about it!
Look talibs don't know squat abt the 4th generation or the 5th generation war. I think you guys are just impressed with the folklore and have no idea whats going on there!

"Late Dr Najeeb Shaheed of Afghanistan questioned ANP in Kabul , why did you sign the constitution of 1973 and then you come here and talk that you are against Pakistan.Daud Khan, Najeeb etc all saw the partys opportunist stand.And then the blood of Sherpao.ANP used an activist from Amazo Garhi (Garhi Kapura) in Mardan to do it . ______ Bacha , well meaning guy although wrongly motivated did that . I think I met him one time in East Germany.Hayat Sherpao was a really great man."

Whoa... so much for Non-Violent politics and this too when Bacha Khan was alive and well.

Re: # 728

Was there any truth to this charge?

I have recently heard about the blood feud between some of the ANP leaders like Bilours and some Peshawar PPP stalwarts.