Pakistan: The War of Drones

#788 Posted by HP,

This article appeared on the circuits a while ago but is totally false. For example, Asif Raza Mir is not musharraf's son-in-law.

But I do think he's preparing to resign after watching his interview with Atiqa Odho televised today. The guy looked totally despondent, and Odho even asked him why he doesn't smile anymore!

The enemy is whereever the US wants it to be...

Feroz talks about appeasement using the same BS allied terminology of WW2,- these rat farts are no Hitler regardless of how hard you try to convert them into one, not by any stretch of the imagination and even where morals go, the other side has done more harm in Iraq than these thugs can ever fathom to accomplish- they are nothing unless you and your masters make them into something, which is the long term plan of uber thugs, feroz has little knowledge of the issues in the WOT other than an unconditional worship of the white man and his sh**

feroz writes "You fight the enemy where the enemy is and not where the enemy is not!!!!"

The enemy is whereever the US want it to be, first in Afghanistan, then in Iraq, now in Pakistan, soon in Iran and the BS carries on....It is high time to call BS on this entire WOT farce and let civilian institutions emerge that deal with problems of the state and get the military out of all internal affairs of the country except defending the borders. What is criminally stupid is the undoing of the nation by these uber macho cowboy types that think that they can make peace by bombing people's families in the current methodology of the Pakistan Army/ US, they have tried all of that and the problems have only escalated. Another joke is the claim by Feroz that Al-Qaeda wants territory- who will occupy their "territory", they simply do not have the numbers to do any meaningful occupation, only if you follow through on your "tough man" methodology will they get the critical mass needed to fulfill thier perverse agenda, you are playing right into their dirty hands but then that is what the US wants to hand this country over to them so it can perpetuate its farce, and Hamid, go F yourself, it is your problem not mine if you cannot handle my arguments....

zahid e K... writes "The writer of the Koran gives the idea of building a wall to save civilization from monsters"

You need to read the Quran more carefully. It was Zulqarnaian's idea (not the idea of the writer of the Quran) and he arrived at his assessment given the terrain and the needs of the people on the other side, not something that can be generalized in the manner that you were doing

ferozk # 784 "Appeasement never works."

Appeasement does work once you run out of stamina, or options. War too works when you run out of patience. Humanity is a very complex entity, with few black and white options.

If we can strike compromises in our personal lives with the people we hate the most (our relatives), we sure can strike compromises at national and international levels too :)

But you are correct in one sense: human being is not programmed to "appease" or "compromise" when he is powerful. So the natural inclination among a group of people is to pursue war while it has the upper hand. No winning army in history ever raised a white flag.

btw - please accept my sympathies for your "worthless" life.

Good Morning Tahmed, Hamid and Feroz!

Here is little news for you!

Pakistan's President Agrees to Resign

“According to sources, Musharraf has requested three face-saving measures: (1) safe passage abroad with his mother Zarin, wife Sehba, daughter Ayla and son-in-law Asif Raza Mir (the former TV star who acted in Fatima Surraya Bajia's famous drama serial Tanhaiyan) to live with his Boston-based son Bilal Musharraf where he serves as an actuary accountant; (2) guarantees that no judicial case will be filed against him in the courts and that the restored judiciary, particularly deposed Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry, will not hear any case against him; and (3) a chance to address the nation one last time.”

http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?
menu=A111 00&no=381963&rel_no=1&isPrint=print

It is coming soon…In the mean time enjoy it!

malik #781 one little problem with this "bombing the tribals have been living through" - the tribals are the most vocal in pushing to get al qaeda out of fata. maybe they know something that you dont.

hamidm #785 what is it that you dont understand about your sharing this little problem of contempt and underestimation for Pakistanis with mush and zawahiri? re-read what i wrote carefully where i have already answered this question for you.

Re: # 782'


tahmed,

"you are merely unable to deal with what i wrote below about this little problem you share with mush and zawahiri"

... you are right - i have absolutley no idea what you are talking about ..... folks like you who think that musharraf is responsible for this carnage and others who think that this carnage is a 'reaction' to the 'oppression' of muslims for the last couple of centuries, are two sides of the same bad coin ...... appeasing wimp ! ... now get out there and do your duty by campaigning for john mccain and sending cookies to our brave men in uniform who are fighting this war on your behalf .......

re: malik99 #781

Appeasement never works. As to my death, it will happen when it will happen and no; I am not nervous. I live in Pakistan where life has no meaning and people have no rights. My life in this nation was worthless before September 2001 and it still is, Al Qaeda or bombs or no bombs.

Ciao

#780 and calling me bewaqoof wont change a thing either. even a bewaqoof like me has more brains than someone like you who is calling for nuking fata and applauds lota rashid..

#766 hamidm: dont lie. i have told you enough times that if i was interestd in being a religious reformer i would not be wasting my time with on chowk.

you are merely unable to deal with what i wrote below about this little problem you share with mush and zawahiri and so you are mad at me.

ferozk #774 "It would be criminally foolish and not to mention naive to think that appeasement is answer for aggression. It never is. Al Qaeda's leadership is ideologically motivated and it is not interested in peace treaties or compromies."

You seem pretty ideologically motivated too :) And it is clear that you are not interested in "peace treaties or compromises" either. And your ideology has killed far more of "them" for far longer of a time - all in the name of someone else's war.

And btw - we are even discussing all this because you are nervouse. You are nervous because "they" have now starting bombing places that are a walking distance from your home, and not just you bombing those "remote" areas which you hadnt even heard of before. The result is that your sense of safety is now breached. You are angry and you are shouting "no appeasement!". But deep down you now know how it feels to go through a day not knowing how big the next bombing would be or where it would be - something the "tribals" have been living with for years.

This is getting interesting. I cant wait to see how it ends :)

Re: # 769

tahmed,

bewakoof! ... stop this rant about my supposed "contempt and underestimation of the Pakistani people" ...... i don't have to go far to see what the great pakistani people are like - we have a good cross section of fools in denial like you and romair, flaming jihadis like urstruly and zeemax, and complete lunatics like masadi and pavo right here on chowk ..... of course we have few sane folks like me, hp sain and feroze main trying to hold back the tide of ignorance, but i am getting tired of standing with my finger in the hole in the dyke ....... hp sain and feroze mian you are on your own - i am out of here !

Re: # 766

CA,

"I am thinking if you change the quran by removing all the jihadi shyte by the mid summer "

........ tahmed is working on it - he has been working on it for over half a century and has yet to find a disciple .....

Re: # 774

feroze mian,

"This is downright stupid! You fight the enemy where the enemy is and not where the enemy is not!!!! "

.... do you think romair will unnderstand this simple message?.... i doubt it, the man is more dense than you think .......