Pakistan: The War of Drones

Zee sahib,

(It is not indiscriminate like an IED or a roadside device which will blow up anyone)

Are you saying that all Pakis who have died lately in suicide bombing attacks (eg the guys in the Charsadda mosque) were guilty folk???

Regards

#17 Posted by majumdar,

Go back to my categorization. The Charsadda mosque bomb was (as are all mosque bombings) a sectarian revenge attack in response for Sherpao's role in the Parachinar conflict. Nothing to do with Jihad.

Re: # 13

"The elite need to focus their minds on the "unfinished business" of partition. This is the only option left. NOthing else seems to work -....."

Sure, the Jehadism-itch of the Pakis have to be relieved in some way or the other.
Sure, when the Paki project of cloning Mohammad was envisaged during Zia days nobody thought that these mindless Mohammad clones would start killing Pakis themselves!!

Re: # 18

Nothing to do with Jehad???

Miyan tum Shia ko musalmaan mante ho?? Aur kristi kafiroon ke khilaaf huye hamle ko Jehad nahih maante??

Zee sahib,

Jihad or no jihad, Charsadda was a suicide bombing wasn't it. And surely not all the people who died there were guilty folks, were they?

Regards

Re: # 13
"The elite need to focus their minds on the "unfinished business" of partition"

sorry have I missed something here? What IS that unfinished business if you care to elaborate?

#21 Posted by majumdar,

No majumdar saheb you didn't get my point.

My point was that the suicide bomber identifies it's target and accurately attacks it. In case of the mosque bomb his target would indeed be all those present inside, regardless of guilty or not guilty. But he didn't by error attack a school or a household or any other unintended target next door or round the block as other precision weapons do all the time.

That's the point.

Re: # 21

Majumdar Bhai, I like your persistence; at times quite enjoyable! You seem like a good decent fellow!

Unfortunately Jihad's definition can be arbitrary and often depends on what outcome someone may be looking for. There are Shia Jihadis (Hezbollah), Sunni Jihadis (Jamaat-e-Islami), and a lot of free-lancers as well. Sunnis DONOT consider Shias muslim but carry on the pretence (I am talking about the hard-liners here, most people couldn't give a f...); and vice versa. Ask someone from "Sipaah-e-sahaaba" and their Jihad would be to eradicate the evil of Shiaism from the land of the pure.

It really is what is means to the individual. So those guys WERE Jihadis in their own right.

I am going to try to find a reference form I book I read recently with interviews of suicide bombers from Palestine that "survived". It was an eye opener.

Re: # 22

the elite need to focus their (the jihadis) minds on the "unfinished business" of the partition(i.e Kashmir first then the Deccan).

Without kashmir pakistan is incomplete....

Cheema, you failed in your pakistan studies. If you were in China youwould have been sent to the reeducation camps!

"reeducation camps".... are called madrassas in Pakistan

Re: # 25

O Buzurgo, I had a distinction in Pakistan Studies, alongwith Islamiyat, many of the science subjects and English. I was also the best debater in my division. This was all the way upto medical school (amir-ul-momineen Zia-ul-huq made these subjects compulsory even then!)

Never did I realise this stupidity that existed amongst our midst!

What is your take on East Pakistan? That was OUR part RIGHT FROM THE START; we couldn't even keep that with us. What chance do we have in "completing" the remaining Pakistan now?

Re: # 27 cheema, you got it wrong. East Pakistan was more hindu than islamic. The bengali muslims were contaminated with hindu beleifs and needed to be cleansed. The leadership tried their best but were not successful. Once kufr comes in it takes over the whole body. A finger here, a toe there doesnot work (that is what the leadership tried). In the 20th century esp 30 years after the massacres by Hitler&Co such a removal of the body would not have been allowed.

So it was let go. Kasmir is purer than that. Infact it should have been a part of Pakistan right from the start. East Pakistan should have been traded for kashmir, and pakistan would have been much better off.

Zardari Sahib Makethat U-Turn. learn from your wife the beloved martyr BiBi!

unfinished business means: 'liberation of Kashmir from India'
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The silent majority in Pakistan had post-election celebrations but the jihadis lurking in shadows make their presence felt thru suicide bombings, like the one we saw today.

What Dr Hoodbhoy said abt the videos is very scary.

I also read that they (AQ) brought an innocent man from the streets in Baghdad to give practice of 'cutting throats' to the trainee jihadis & they actually made the trainesss cut.It's the weirdest form of hands-on training!!

They are very sophisticated now. They access to electronic explosives, gadgets, Net & use them effectively. They never realise that their mindset or puritanical religion created those facilities. Here's a zeehadi on CHowk with wet dreams of creating murder and mayhem in Pakistan wants the terrorists to use remote controlled IEDs (none of it was created by the Book or Book-worms he professes).

We can never argue or win an argument with extermists. Nor the power of logic works with Uncle Sam.

#29 Posted by VRV,

Which book do the Tamils read?

When one force is out of proportion stronger than another attack by suicide bombing is a legitimate tactic of war.Our enemies are very peaceful as Carl Von Clausewitz said long ago.They want to conquer us without war.

These tactics were used for a long time in military history."Forlorn hopes were organised for frontal 100 % suicidal attacks by British Army in 18th century".The Japanese perfected Kamikaze suicide bombings which was staged on a strategic level on 9/11.The Palestenians did it against Israelis.These are not fanatics.These are warriors.As long as the targets are not non combatants this is a legitimate tactic of war.

chowk staff have a great sense of humour or is it irony....

any one noticed the ad from google on RHS......if you have not here it is once more