Zardari Rev 2

Re: # 15

JUP or the "Pir" party of Muslims supported Jinnah's Pakistan and were active participants in contrast to JI and JUI the two opposing clerical parties.

Re: # 15

So does the JUI (Hind), but they were not the Pir/Feudals as suggested by bulleya.

Re: # 14
The current champions of the Islamic cause, i.e., Jamaat-e-Islami's founding father Syed Abu'al Aala Maududi is one name that springs to mind.

Re: # 13

bulleya

{and many from punjab who actually opposed the creation of pakistan}

Many? how many and can u name just a few who opposed formation of Pakistan post 1946. Thanks

one more thing about gilani........unlike many feudals/pirs whose ancestors were given lands, because they sided with the british........and many from punjab who actually opposed the creation of pakistan........gilani's father was the youngest signatory of the pakistan resolution as a representative from multan (if i am not incorrect), and his family was fully behind the pakistan movement........

Re: # 11

akcheema sahib,

If we measure contribution by infrastructure development, then the charge is not true. Take a stroll down memory land, the Sharif's particularly the younger one (Shahbaz) transformed Lahore, last five years saw another phase of rapid development in Punjab and Karachi.

Point being, without being generous we can be objective and give credit where it belongs, and the question what has the gentleman done for Multan or Southern Punjab for that matter is a relevant question. Now that he has assumed the PM mantle, it becomes even more problematic cause his performance will be measured on a national basis.

Re: # 9; Zee Bhai
"What has he done for Multan in particular and South Punjab in general during the no less than 5 tenures he has had as an MNA, one as Speaker NA?"

What has ANY one of them done for the country?

zeemax #: .....gilani is about the best that the feudal-pir system has to offer......he is a dignified man.....trust me...i have only been mentioning three people (imran khan, aitezaz ahsan and gilani), because or of the people i have had some direct or indirect access to, (through friends and family etc.) i have found these three to be the best......

as for sherry rehman......that was accidental.....

regarding his piri/fiqiri.....he is the gaddi nashin of a big pir gharana......he is related to pir pagaro and to a long list of major feudal/pir.....i believe his son is about to marry pir pagaro's granddaughter.....however, he gave up the gaddi a long time ago.....he passed it onto a relative....that itself takes some courage......he moved to lahore, and lived a normal life, raising his children as professionals.........

...as for jail time......anyone who understands pakistani politics will know that spending time in jail is the ultimate qualificaiton for leadership in pakistani politics......pakistani politics has still not matured beyond the days of the british.......this is, probably, why he got the nod over fahim.......

he was subjected to all kinds of humiliations by musharraf over five years.....he is one of the only politicians, who refused to move to the hospital during jail time......he was offered chairman senate etc. by musharraf, to switch parties.....he refused.....yet you will never see any bitterness in him........

him and javed hashmi are the two ultimate anti-establishment figures, at the moment......nawaz sharif ran away to saudi arabia, benazir was in dubai, zardari was in a hospital.....while these two were in jail without any credible case....naveed qamar of ppp is another who was in jail for two years......and i think ppp will give him the second most important post of finance minister, due to his jail time......

jail time is a ph.d. in pakistani politics, and is what makes leaders popular amongst voters......they respect defiance......moreso than even good governance.....at least that is what i have seen.....

for those who like liberalism, he is quite a liberal guy, who has broken away from traditional piri/faqiri....and a very balanced, patient man, who knows his limitations........and is very respected across the political spectrum.......

good choice; at least as far as i m concerned.......and this is coming from someone who is totally against piri/feudal system of pakistan.......

as for doing something for multan.....i don't know what he has or has not done for multan......but in that sense, no one has done much for any place in pakistan....pakistani politics is still stuck in the institution building stage.....doing something is stage 2.....and is quite easy......he can hire plenty of people like you and me to do things.......

#7 Posted by bulleya,

I have nothing against this gaddi-nasheen and alam-bardar of his illustrious sajjada-nasheen ancestors, except his disgusting subway-molesting attempt at brushing up on sherry rehman's boobs in a public rally, but do tell me the following:

What has he done for Multan in particular and South Punjab in general during the no less than 5 tenures he has had as an MNA, one as Speaker NA? Except spending time in A-Class jail?

#5 Posted by ijaz_gul,

Without central Punjab, anyone who wants to have the last laugh will have the last whimper.

But I do agree zardari has tried to pull a fast one by getting MQM into the coalition, whom PML-N abhors.

..i have been saying, for the past two years that three good choices for the position of PM would be imran khan, aitezaz ashan or yusuf raza gilani.......

yusuf raza - a name hitherto unmentioned on this site, by anyone other than me - ends up becoming the pm......

he is good choice......and will do well......he was jailed by musharraf for 4 1/2 years, without being convicted.....

anyways, when you spread the news about him being appointed as pm, do mention that you heard it first, two years ago, on radio b-u-l-l-e-y-a.....

Dear writer,

Mr Zardari has once again demonstrated his "deal making skills", but running the government, a political party, and keeping the army happy has yet to be tested. One can only wish him the best and hope things move in the right direction, having said running a political coalition and government will always be a difficult balancing act.

Will NS be his last laugh?

further, all his strokes are master strokes. Its just too good. Well NS be his last laugh?

Re: # 2 Mr. Z should be grateful to AH.
He is generous to give benefit of doubt to Z and AH put pressure on General for NRO and saved mr Z. and Mrs B.
But chances are good that good deeds will be rewarded by punishment and disfranchising urban Sindhis. Hope as sign of peace offer CM ship to MQM and make sindh as sing of brotherhood and compromise.

He has certainly played his cards well. MQM was a move that took air out of Amin Fahim and Gilani out of Paghara. He has confirmed his anti establishment credentials.